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Old January 20th 04, 06:53 PM
davebee
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with absolutely zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists

I am about 100% certain that this will have been mentioned before but
have to vent my anger/frustration somewhere

Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am ridin
along the road at the left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing on
standard so no motorist could ever say i am not visible. As I am goin
straight on past a possible left turning some tosser in the car behin
me decides he doesn't have enough time to wait for me to pass th
turning so he can safely turn behind me. OH NO, thats far too ****in
simple isn't it? Instead he feels it necessary to pull alongside me an
then turn straight across me, sending me and bike flying accross hi
bonnett. And then get this, this total ****WIT somehow thinks that it i
my own fault that I am splattered all over the floor and wants me to pa
for the dent in his bonnet. I have got his numberplate and will b
reporting him to the police for dangerous driving

If I hadn't been splatted I would have quite happily smashed his ****in
face in and torched his car

Luckily I aint hurt, just a few bumps and bruises, but I am seriousl
****ed off about this total ****. This guy seems to think that by m
asking him for his insurance details I am just trying to scam money ou
of him!!! Do these ******* never see past their wallets? I could be dea
and he is worrying about a few quid to get his car fixed. (somehow m
bike was completely fine) I will most definitely be getting in touc
with his insurance company (I don't have their details but I am sure
can get them through the police or other channels) and telling them NO
to pay out for the repairs to this guys car

next driver that comes even remotely close to me is going to b
losing front teeth. And people wonder why I can't stand cars or th
****wits that drive them. ******* the lot of them . ****ing ******s
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Old January 20th 04, 07:11 PM
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"davebee" wrote in message
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Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding
along the road at the left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one
standard so no motorist could ever say i am not visible.


Ah, there's your mistake you see - you're missing two wheels which instantly
puts a cloak of invisibility over you, no matter how hard you try.

I have got his numberplate and will be
reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.

Luckily I aint hurt, just a few bumps and bruises,


Well, you are hurt then.

If an accident involves injury, it gets treated a lot more seriously by plod
and insurance, so make sure whenever you speak to them you mention the
injury.

Also make sure your bike is ok - if necessary pay for a professional opinion
(you can claim it back from the driver/insurance).

I will most definitely be getting in touch
with his insurance company (I don't have their details but I am sure I
can get them through the police or other channels) and telling them NOT
to pay out for the repairs to this guys car.


Don't do that, it's not their problem (and makes you look ranty - reasonable
in the circs, but remember the insurance company wants nothing to do with
your anger). But make sure a claim is made by claiming for the
aforementioned injury, that way it hits the driver in the pocket with NCB
loss.

If the driver/insurance company admit liability, then all will be ok and
you'll be able to claim for the above stuff fairly easily (I've done this
twice now - no personal injury, just knackered stuff).
If they start being arsey, then take advice from eg the CTC people (you are
a member, aren't you?)

cheers,
clive


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Old January 20th 04, 08:29 PM
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next driver that comes even remotely close to me is going to be
losing front teeth. And people wonder why I can't stand cars or the
****wits that drive them. ******* the lot of them . ****ing ******s.
vent vent vent vent

Remember that many motorists think the same of you because of the behaviour
of a minority of of cyclists - it cuts both ways you know :-)

You do need to mention to the police that you have been injured as I believe
that there are legal implications for making compensation claims for
unreported injuries that subsequently turn out to be more serious than they
first appear. You should also mention that the motorist refused to give you
his insurance details - he is legally obliged to do so.

Ranting about your intolerance of motorists will not yield dividends when
dealing with the police or the motorist's insurance company - they deal in
facts and not emotions.

I once extracted £300 cash at the scene of the accident from a motorist that
knocked me off my motor cycle by calmly and audibly cataloguing the damaged
components and their inflated replacement and fitting costs before offering
him the option of coughing up or having his reckless driving reported to the
police whose local station was 400 metres away. As much as I'd I've liked
to inflict life threatening injuries on the hapless chap I remembered the
immortal phrase - "Revenge is a dish best served cold"

On the injury front - do get yourself checked out especially if you hurt
more tomorrow than you do now. I ignored some twinges from a low speed
spill and ended up with some deep seated tissue damage in my shoulder that
took months to stop hurting.

Vernon
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Old January 20th 04, 08:44 PM
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:53:25 GMT, davebee scrawled:
) I have got his numberplate and will be
) reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.

Out of interest, is there a legal precedent that implies one ought not to
broadcast such numberplates? If one has photos to back up what might
otherwise be called libellous, can one publish and be damned?

I should add that I have no such photos. But I do have a new camera, and a
route to work that brings me into contact with more than one idiot.

J-P
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Old January 20th 04, 09:23 PM
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Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding
along the road at the left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one
standard so no motorist could ever say i am not visible. As I am going
straight on past a possible left turning some tosser in the car behind
me decides he doesn't have enough time to wait for me to pass the
turning so he can safely turn behind me. OH NO, thats far too ****ing
simple isn't it? Instead he feels it necessary to pull alongside me and
then turn straight across me, sending me and bike flying accross his
bonnett. And then get this, this total ****WIT somehow thinks that it is
my own fault that I am splattered all over the floor and wants me to pay
for the dent in his bonnet. I have got his numberplate and will be
reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.


snippity...


You were hurt - you were injured, even if relatively mildly. Any accident where
there are injuries *should* be reported to the police. If the driver has not
reported it - he is committing an offence, if I recall correctly - I'm sure
someone will correct me if I'm wrong on that.

You have every right to be upset, from what you describe as happening. BUT
*you* need to

1. inform the police of the incident - your injuries and any damage to your
bike. Note the cost of damages to bike etc.

2. If you are a member of the CTC phone them for help *now* - you have
insurance and legal cover for such incidents as these.

3. See a doctor a.s.a.p. to have a formal record of your injuries. I hope your
injuries are minor - but on the small chance something more serious develops -
you *need* this formally recorded.

4. If you don't have CTC cover mentioned, get a copy of Cycling Weekly or
Cycling Plus, they contain adverts for solicitors who specialise in acting on
behalf of cyclists - check out your rights with one a.s.a.p. It's protecting
*you* from bully-boy tactics of motoring insurance companies.

Best wishes, helen s




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Old January 20th 04, 09:35 PM
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davebee writes:

with absolutely zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists.

I am about 100% certain that this will have been mentioned before but I
have to vent my anger/frustration somewhere.

Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding
along the road at the left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one
standard so no motorist could ever say i am not visible. As I am going
straight on past a possible left turning some tosser in the car behind
me decides he doesn't have enough time to wait for me to pass the
turning so he can safely turn behind me. OH NO, thats far too ****ing
simple isn't it? Instead he feels it necessary to pull alongside me and
then turn straight across me, sending me and bike flying accross his
bonnett. And then get this, this total ****WIT somehow thinks that it is
my own fault that I am splattered all over the floor and wants me to pay
for the dent in his bonnet. I have got his numberplate and will be
reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.


Next time, phone the police on your mobile and keep him at the scene -
if you can - until they arrive. Feign mild concussion if you need
to. The guy needs his license taken away from him.


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Old January 20th 04, 10:03 PM
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:35:02 GMT, Simon Brooke
wrote:

davebee writes:

with absolutely zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists.

I am about 100% certain that this will have been mentioned before but I
have to vent my anger/frustration somewhere.

Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding
along the road at the left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one
standard so no motorist could ever say i am not visible. As I am going
straight on past a possible left turning some tosser in the car behind
me decides he doesn't have enough time to wait for me to pass the
turning so he can safely turn behind me. OH NO, thats far too ****ing
simple isn't it? Instead he feels it necessary to pull alongside me and
then turn straight across me, sending me and bike flying accross his
bonnett. And then get this, this total ****WIT somehow thinks that it is
my own fault that I am splattered all over the floor and wants me to pay
for the dent in his bonnet. I have got his numberplate and will be
reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.


Next time, phone the police on your mobile and keep him at the scene -
if you can - until they arrive. Feign mild concussion if you need
to. The guy needs his license taken away from him.


I always had a plan for the eventuality of being hit. I was going to
stay on the deck and feign unconciousness and
limbs-in-unnatural-positions. The aim was to ensure the attendance of
police etc and avoid the normal cyclist's instinct to jump up saying
"I'm all right" out of misplaced machismo.

When I was hit it went a bit wrong and the plan was not put into
action. I was too busy *being* unconcious.

Helen is spot on in her advice. Particularly the need to report it.
Even if it turns out that you and the bike are OK the bloke who did it
will have the naus of having to deal with the police. If he's got
anything dodgy about his car (tax, insurance etc) he might be in a
spot of real bother. Running over people is unlikely to get a
prosecution but lack of paperwork is.

Failing to report an injury-accident is also big trouble.

I also cannot underline enough the need to wait a bit before you
decide you are OK. I'd read people saying this in posts before and
filed it away as good advice. But when the day came to it I was saying
to the ambulance crew "c'mon guys, I don't need this - I can walk back
from here". I really believed I was OK despite the fact I was passing
out as I talked and had a smashed-to-smithereens arm.
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Old January 20th 04, 10:21 PM
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Same thing happened to me this lunchtime _get this_ by a driver turning
left into me to get to his local AA office!! Talk about adding insult to
injury!! Arrghh!! Luckily I braked in time so no harm done but it makes
you fume doesnt it.

Any suggestions for ways to count to ten before reacting to murderous
drivers?

Chris


On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:53:25 GMT, davebee
wrote:

with absolutely zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists.

I am about 100% certain that this will have been mentioned before but I
have to vent my anger/frustration somewhere.

Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding
along the road at the left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one
standard so no motorist could ever say i am not visible. As I am going
straight on past a possible left turning some tosser in the car behind
me decides he doesn't have enough time to wait for me to pass the
turning so he can safely turn behind me. OH NO, thats far too ****ing
simple isn't it? Instead he feels it necessary to pull alongside me and
then turn straight across me, sending me and bike flying accross his
bonnett. And then get this, this total ****WIT somehow thinks that it is
my own fault that I am splattered all over the floor and wants me to pay
for the dent in his bonnet. I have got his numberplate and will be
reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.

If I hadn't been splatted I would have quite happily smashed his ****ing
face in and torched his car.

Luckily I aint hurt, just a few bumps and bruises, but I am seriously
****ed off about this total ****. This guy seems to think that by me
asking him for his insurance details I am just trying to scam money out
of him!!! Do these ******* never see past their wallets? I could be dead
and he is worrying about a few quid to get his car fixed. (somehow my
bike was completely fine) I will most definitely be getting in touch
with his insurance company (I don't have their details but I am sure I
can get them through the police or other channels) and telling them NOT
to pay out for the repairs to this guys car.

next driver that comes even remotely close to me is going to be
losing front teeth. And people wonder why I can't stand cars or the
****wits that drive them. ******* the lot of them . ****ing ******s.
vent vent vent vent



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Old January 20th 04, 10:52 PM
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davebee wrote in newsWdPb.59777$ok6.6456
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with absolutely zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists.

If it makes you feel better, a couple of weeks ago I was on my way home
from work when nitwit in silver BMW whizzes past far too close for comfort
on a bend, c.45mph in 30 zone, dark, wet, temperature about zero.
Round the bend and there are two of Strathclyde's finest complete with
radar gun. It was all I could do to stop from rubbing my hands in glee as I
passed the three of them :-) Who says you never see a policeman when you
want one?

But do see a doctor and get yourself checked out.

Bill

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Old January 20th 04, 11:09 PM
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j-p.s wrote:

Out of interest, is there a legal precedent that implies one ought not to
broadcast such numberplates? If one has photos to back up what might
otherwise be called libellous, can one publish and be damned?


Well, if it really is libellous, then you could in theory be sued for
libel. I'd be surprised to hear of it happening in the real world,
unless you set out to libel someone seriously, deliberately and without
good reason. Merely identifying a crap driver as a crap driver would
hardly count.

The number plates don't identify the driver anyway.

James

 




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