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Why they hate us, was ( funny things to do on a bike)
Mark Hickey wrote:
Zoot Katz wrote: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:03:53 -0700, , Mark Hickey wrote: \whack Lines: 312 "A really long post my reader didn't download (I have a limit of 300 lines - any post longer than that is wasting bandwidth)." Yep, I just noticed that myownself. Apparently there's no limitation to the outbound size. Either way, it's a sure sign that the thread should be finished. Hitler. That oughta do it. http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms...win_s_Law.html Bzzzt! Intentional invocation of Godwin's law means you lose. Pete |
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In article , bmcilvan@mouse-
potato.com says... Frank Krygowski wrote: David Kerber wrote: In article , says... ... For reference, something like this is now widely thought to have triggered a worldwide economic crash at the beginning of the Dark Ages. At that time, it was an earlier explosion of the volcano later known as Krakatoa that is thought to have been responsible. (Krakatoa erupted with much less force in the 1800s, but still caused significant turmoil.) People took the Nuclear Winter issue seriously, including people at the top of the relevant governments. The number of nuclear warheads has diminished greatly - although we probably still retain enough to trigger that sort of catastrophe. Of course, since then the "nuclear winter" theory has been discredited in it's then-popular form... And we can chase that issue down another sub-thread. But it's even more irrelevant than Mark's recurring "ice age" remark. David are you saying that an earlier eruption of Krakatoa caused the "Little Ice Age"? Can you post a reference? I thought it was just a ripple in a larger wave - the slow ending of the last real ice age. It wasn't me who said that; look at the indenting level, it was two levels of posts before mine. -- Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the newsgroups if possible). |
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Why they hate us, was ( funny things to do on a bike)
David Kerber wrote: David are you saying that an earlier eruption of Krakatoa caused the "Little Ice Age"? Can you post a reference? I thought it was just a ripple in a larger wave - the slow ending of the last real ice age. It wasn't me who said that; look at the indenting level, it was two levels of posts before mine. Right you are. Sorry bout that. I see Frank wasn't quite saying that either. Volcanoes have caused dark years at times. Bernie |
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Why they hate us, was ( funny things to do on a bike)
In article , bmcilvan@mouse-
potato.com says... David Kerber wrote: David are you saying that an earlier eruption of Krakatoa caused the "Little Ice Age"? Can you post a reference? I thought it was just a ripple in a larger wave - the slow ending of the last real ice age. It wasn't me who said that; look at the indenting level, it was two levels of posts before mine. Right you are. Sorry bout that. I see Frank wasn't quite saying that either. Volcanoes have caused dark years at times. That is certainly true, but I don't know if the "mini ice age" was connected to one or not. There was a time in the early 1800's which was called "the year without a summer" in New England, which IIRC was caused by the eruption of Tambora. -- Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the newsgroups if possible). |
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Hunrobe wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote: Isn't Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia frequently listed as one of the world's worst dictators? ---snip--- I don't want to live in that country because I value my freedom to dissent but "one of the world's worst dictators" is hyperbole. How many Saudis has he murdered? IIRC, Saddam had broken into the six figure range quite easily. Did we attack the wrong country?? See above. Well, since the current rationalization for our $100 billion adventure is that Saddam was evil, somebody needs to explain how we decide exactly which evil dictators are evil enough to justify invasion. Apparently, not everyone on the "evil dictator" list qualifies. And not every terribly repressive country gets invaded. Some of the repressive countries just serve as sources for inexpensive bike frames. Others serve as sources for oil. Others, with no major resources to sell us, go completely unnoticed. -- --------------------+ Frank Krygowski [To reply, remove rodent and vegetable dot com, replace with cc.ysu dot edu] |
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Mark Hickey wrote in message . ..
(Jonesy) wrote: Mark Hickey wrote in message . .. (Jonesy) wrote: A really long post my reader didn't download (I have a limit of 300 lines - any post longer than that is wasting bandwidth). Arguing with you is wasting bandwidth, on that we *both* agree. Great. I typed a 1200 line reply, but already deleted it. ;-) If you were interested in using logic or data to bolster your claims, you'd go look it up. As long as your lips are surgically attached to Shrub's anus, you'll never be able to see or speak truth. HAND, -- R.F. Jones "I get all my news from the Limbaugh Institute of Conservative Studies!" |
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Frank Krygowski wrote in message ...
Mark Hickey wrote: (Jonesy) wrote: A really long post my reader didn't download (I have a limit of 300 lines - any post longer than that is wasting bandwidth). It's obvious you want to argue just to get in typing practice. Carry on, but without me, please. You know, Mark, I was thinking that Jonesy gave some very instructive information in there. Although I know most of what's in http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ I think it's an excellent source, and I think he used it effectively to illustrate where your thinking has gone wrong in several ways. Perhaps you should go to Google groups, or some other source, to overcome your newsreader's limitations, so you can learn from that post. The worst part is that if I had not actually quoted the contents, the post would have fit in under Mark's "limit." If the "limit" actually exists. But links sometimes don't get read... -- Jonesy |
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Mark Hickey wrote in message . ..
Tom Sherman wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: ... Here's a clue... global warming doesn't exist. There's been a net cooling trend for decades, and the effect of the Kyoto accord would be at best a small fraction of 1 degree centigrade over the next century (at a truly horrendous cost to the US economy). But let's not go over that well-plowed land again.... No climatologists believe the above except those on the payrolls (or funded by) the hydrocarbon extraction industry. The consensus is that global warming is taking place, but the US corporate media pays undue attention to the few climatoligists that disagree. Even that hotbed of left-wing radicals, the US Department of Defense now believes that global warming is a significant threat to US security. You need to do some more reading on the subject. Good advice. You should take it. Include in your research real, peer-reviewed studies, not some quote from the Rush Limbaugh website. The best data on the subject shows that there has been a net cooling trend - not a warming trend. Tell that to the permafrost, glaciers and polar ice caps. They will be quite relieved to hear that all this time they have been growing, instead of shrinking, in size. Those pushing the global warming agenda tend to be those who are raking in lots of research dollars doing it. Ad hominem commentary means that your argument is lost: http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...d-hominem.html There are petitions signed by tens of thousands of scientists who believe the science and methods used to come to the conclusion that global warming is happening are flawed. "Scientists" is nebulous term. Climatologists? But don't take my word for it - look up the NOAA data on temperature trends. What about the data on shrinking glaciers and ice caps? Maybe physics are different in Right-Wing-Land? -- Jonesy |
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