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Mark Hickey wrote: gwhite wrote: Mark Hickey wrote: What does it take to truly believe that a truly dumb person could actually rise to the most powerful position on earth? One must only register as a democrat. That's all. In fact, for how foolish George Bush does appear at times, it is an absolute miracle he's not a democrat. Of course, he can't compete with Edwards, who seems hell-bent to set new standards. You may have something there... Theresa Heinz-Kerry seems to have switched off the common sense circuits fairly often since converting to Democrat (she was a registered Republican until John's candidacy - oops). Maybe a lot of people at the convention were smoking weed and it got to her... ;-) ,---- note That's it. If Bush is so stupid, why isn't he a democrat? |
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What does it take to truly believe that a truly dumb person could actually rise to the most powerful position on earth? One must only register as a democrat. That's all. In fact, for how foolish George Bush does appear at times, it is an absolute miracle he's not a democrat. Of course, he can't compete with Edwards, who seems hell-bent to set new standards. If you are a Republican and that's the best you can say about Bush, you're in a sad, sad way. Pat, an Independent. |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... It should be easy for Shrub to keep in shape, since he has never worked a real job in his life. What a dip****. If being Governor of Texas and * PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES * doesn't qualify as a "Real Job", I don't know what does. Are you really that stupid? Dave |
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Raoul Duke wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... It should be easy for Shrub to keep in shape, since he has never worked a real job in his life. What a dip****. If being Governor of Texas and * PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES * doesn't qualify as a "Real Job", I don't know what does. Are you really that stupid? He (and Jobst Brandt) thinks that the reason 62 million died in the Soviet Union was because of "bad leaders" rather than bad ideology. So yes, he really is that stupid. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Peacetime* body count: Location (Regime) Deaths Era Soviet Union (Communist) 61,900,000 1917-1990 China (Communist) 35,200,000 1949-present Germany (Nazi-Fascist) 20,900,000 1933-1945 China (Kuomintang) 10,400,000 1928-1949 Japan (Imperial-Fascist) 6,000,000 1936-1945 China (Communist Guerrillas) 3,500,000 1923-1948 Cambodia (Communist) 2,000,000 1975-1979 Turkey ("Young Turks") 1,900,000 1909-1917 Vietnam (Communist) 1,700,000 1945-present Korea (Communist) 1,700,000 1948-present Poland (Communist) 1,600,000 1945-1948 Pakistan (Yahya Khan) 1,500,000 1971 Mexico (Porfiriato) 1,400,000 1900-1920 Yugoslavia (Communist) 1,100,000 1944-1990 Russia (Czarist) 1,100,000 1900-1917 Turkey ("Ataturk") 900,000 1918-1923 United Kingdom (Democratic) 800,000 1900-present Portugal (Fascist) 700,000 1926-1975 Croatia (Fascist) 700,000 1941-1945 Indonesia (Suharto) 600,000 1965-present http://econ161.berkeley.edu/TCEH/199..._5genocide.pdf "Once we remember the possibility of the existence of such a system, the differences between socialism and fascism become trivial, superficial and, above all, non-essential. Differentiation of socialism and fascism from capitalism permits the recognition of their similarity. They do differ from each other, but only in the way in which the scalene and the isosceles differ from each other: in degree, but not in kind. Socialism and fascism are each forms of statism, forms of government in which the government is given complete or extensive control over the lives of its citizens." http://www.lawrence.edu/sorg/objectivism/socfasc.html |
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Raoul Duke wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... It should be easy for Shrub to keep in shape, since he has never worked a real job in his life. What a dip****. If being Governor of Texas and * PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES * doesn't qualify as a "Real Job", I don't know what does. Are you really that stupid? Shrub has had plenty of advisors and handlers to do all the real work, including telling him what to say and think during his political career. Not at all the same thing as being handed several hours of work in the late afternoon that is due the morning (or similar situations). Additionally, Shrub has never had any real job pressure on him during his life, since whatever mistakes he would make were taken care of by "daddy's friends". -- Tom Sherman – Quad City Area |
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Tom Sherman wrote:
Shrub has had plenty of advisors and handlers to do all the real work, including telling him what to say and think during his political career. Hmmmm, which is at odds with "he never listens to anyone" schtick that's also trotted out as gospel. Heh. Would you guys make up your mind - it's so confusing... ;-) Not at all the same thing as being handed several hours of work in the late afternoon that is due the morning (or similar situations). Additionally, Shrub has never had any real job pressure on him during his life, since whatever mistakes he would make were taken care of by "daddy's friends". I'll wager GWB has more pressure in a given week than 99% of us will face in the course of a tough year. I know I wouldn't want the job, especially with the acid environment in Washington DC right now (neither candidate can do anything that's not going to get ripped apart by the other side). Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
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*Peacetime* body count: Location (Regime) Deaths Era Soviet Union (Communist) 61,900,000 1917-1990 China (Communist) 35,200,000 1949-present Germany (Nazi-Fascist) 20,900,000 1933-1945 China (Kuomintang) 10,400,000 1928-1949 Japan (Imperial-Fascist) 6,000,000 1936-1945 China (Communist Guerrillas) 3,500,000 1923-1948 Cambodia (Communist) 2,000,000 1975-1979 Turkey ("Young Turks") 1,900,000 1909-1917 Vietnam (Communist) 1,700,000 1945-present Korea (Communist) 1,700,000 1948-present Poland (Communist) 1,600,000 1945-1948 Pakistan (Yahya Khan) 1,500,000 1971 Mexico (Porfiriato) 1,400,000 1900-1920 Yugoslavia (Communist) 1,100,000 1944-1990 Russia (Czarist) 1,100,000 1900-1917 Turkey ("Ataturk") 900,000 1918-1923 United Kingdom (Democratic) 800,000 1900-present Portugal (Fascist) 700,000 1926-1975 Croatia (Fascist) 700,000 1941-1945 Indonesia (Suharto) 600,000 1965-present I guess that the US doesn't make the list as the Native American genocide was only in the thousands. We're hard to beat when it comes to slavery though! By the way, I think that the numbers for Indonesia are a bit low. I've read figures over 2 million. The CIA helped a bit there because the Suharto regime was supposedly going after the communists. Plus, remember that China is our biggest trading partner. Go WalMart! If I understand our government's position, trade with China and Vietnam is very good, but trade with Cuba is very bad. Todd Kuzma Heron Bicycles Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery LaSalle, Il 815-223-1776 http://www.heronbicycles.com http://www.tullios.com |
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A Muzi wrote in message ...
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 14:56:14 GMT, "mark" wrote: In their subtle way, I think they're trying to say GWB's not real smart, period. Werehatrack wrote: It takes subtlety to *not* say it. It takes blindness to not see it. Mark Hickey wrote: What does it take to truly believe that a truly dumb person could actually rise to the most powerful position on earth? He was underestimated in the election for his first term, too. You mean "misunderestimated". |
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I know I wouldn't want the job, : And most of us wouldn't want you to have the job either. App |
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Todd Kuzma wrote: I guess that the US doesn't make the list as the Native American genocide was only in the thousands. Exactly -- that is the point. For as horrendopus and dispicable as the treatment of the Indians was, the US doesn't make the list. One especially keen example of mistreatment was Andrew Jackson (founder of the Democrat party) ignoring the Supreme Court and sending the Cherokee's out on the The Trail of Tears. The Cherokees had adopted some of the euro culture in accepting the concept of property rights, only to have it violated by Jackson (hah hah, what's new with democrats). No, the US was/is no utopia. But *comparatively*, it is better than any place else. People still immigrate here. Few ever leave, although I can think of a few that should. There was a utopia, or so it was promised to be. Here's what happened the *Peacetime* body count Location (Regime) Deaths Era Soviet Union (Communist) 61,900,000 1917-1990 China (Communist) 35,200,000 1949-present We're hard to beat when it comes to slavery though! What! You prop up straw men? The only way a USA could come into being was to accept slavery initially. This much cannot be argued against by anyone with at least a rudimentary study of history. You could argue that the USA should then have *not* come into being. Okay, you can say that. What does it mean in a comparative sense since utopia is a pipe dream for doofuses that smoke but don't inhale (meaning they'ed think more clearly if they were stoned -- that's how cracked they are)? It means slavery might *still* exist in the South. It means separate states might have warred constantly with each other instead of just once (and that one time terminated the slavery issue forever). You would have at least some difficulty saying the USA should never have been *and* that non-existance would be a better comparative result than what we in fact ended up with. Slavery was a political compromise of the time, not the bad dream of a 21st century couch potato. By the way, I think that the numbers for Indonesia are a bit low. I've read figures over 2 million. The CIA helped a bit there because the Suharto regime was supposedly going after the communists. "...helped a bit...?" I already posted the data. So okay, give the bad ole US *all* the credit. We don't bust 1 million. Indonesia (Suharto) 600,000 1965-present "A regime whose hands are as bloody as those of the Suharto regime in Indonesia-with the blood on its hands of perhaps 450,000 communists, suspected communists, and others who simply were in the wrong place at the wrong time at its creation in 1965, and perhaps 150,000 inhabitants of East Timor since the Indonesian takeover in the mid-1970s--such a regime barely makes the twentieth century's top twenty list as far as the massacre of civilians is concerned." http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/TCE...ch_power4.html But since you have decided to go ahead and play the body count game, you might want to count people saved to. There again we are not perfect, just better (by a lot). Plus, remember that China is our biggest trading partner. Go WalMart! Ah yes, evil Wal-mart. There is nothing worse than convenience, low prices, and liberal return policies. OUTRAGEOUS!!! If I understand our government's position, trade with China and Vietnam is very good, but trade with Cuba is very bad. Would that be the Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, or Bush administrations whose Cuba policies you find inconsistant? I guess it must be Bush 43,... right? http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/TCE...vergence5.html |
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