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Tom Kunich Wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact that EVERYONE else on his team admitted to
doping and Richard's name was in Voet's book with times and dosages.

Maybe you missed the fact that I used Virenque as an example.
The vast majority of those who get caught doping, Virenque included,
start out protesting their innocence. Some give up this claim
eventually, eg Virenque, Millar, others continue to claim innocence eg
Pantani.

Just because TH says he really really is innocent, this does not mean
much. Of course he'll say he's innocent until the case is heard and he
still has a chance of getting off on a technicality. Sorry the example
was too complex for you.

Certainly but since there's never been the slightest evidence that
Tyler was using performance enhancing drugs or "procedures" before we
ought to let this one play out.

This isn't the case with Pantani or Virenque or many others who were
generally accused after being caught with the goods or by their
associates having doping schedules etc.

Miller confessed.

I understand what you're saying - that a cry of innocence doesn't mean
innocence and while I agree with it, you can hardly call Pantani's
test of 54% no reason to suspect him of doping.

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Tom Kunich Wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact that EVERYONE else on his team admitted to
doping and Richard's name was in Voet's book with times and dosages.

Maybe you missed the fact that I used Virenque as an example.
The vast majority of those who get caught doping, Virenque included,
start out protesting their innocence. Some give up this claim
eventually, eg Virenque, Millar, others continue to claim innocence eg
Pantani.

Just because TH says he really really is innocent, this does not mean
much. Of course he'll say he's innocent until the case is heard and he
still has a chance of getting off on a technicality. Sorry the example
was too complex for you.

Certainly but since there's never been the slightest evidence that
Tyler was using performance enhancing drugs or "procedures" before we
ought to let this one play out.

Dr. Prentiss Steffen.

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Tom Kunich Wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact that EVERYONE else on his team admitted to
doping and Richard's name was in Voet's book with times and dosages.

Maybe you missed the fact that I used Virenque as an example.
The vast majority of those who get caught doping, Virenque included,
start out protesting their innocence. Some give up this claim
eventually, eg Virenque, Millar, others continue to claim innocence eg
Pantani.

Just because TH says he really really is innocent, this does not mean
much. Of course he'll say he's innocent until the case is heard and he
still has a chance of getting off on a technicality. Sorry the example
was too complex for you.

Certainly but since there's never been the slightest evidence that
Tyler was using performance enhancing drugs or "procedures" before we
ought to let this one play out.

Dr. Prentiss Steffen.

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Tom Kunich Wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact that EVERYONE else on his team admitted to
doping and Richard's name was in Voet's book with times and dosages.

Maybe you missed the fact that I used Virenque as an example.
The vast majority of those who get caught doping, Virenque included,
start out protesting their innocence. Some give up this claim
eventually, eg Virenque, Millar, others continue to claim innocence eg
Pantani.

Just because TH says he really really is innocent, this does not mean
much. Of course he'll say he's innocent until the case is heard and he
still has a chance of getting off on a technicality. Sorry the example
was too complex for you.

Certainly but since there's never been the slightest evidence that
Tyler was using performance enhancing drugs or "procedures" before we
ought to let this one play out.

Dr. Prentiss Steffen.

Oh, yeah, the guy that doesn't name names nor repeat exactly what
happened but expects everyone to believe that he's telling nothing but
the truth.

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Tom Kunich Wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact that EVERYONE else on his team admitted to
doping and Richard's name was in Voet's book with times and dosages.

Maybe you missed the fact that I used Virenque as an example.
The vast majority of those who get caught doping, Virenque included,
start out protesting their innocence. Some give up this claim
eventually, eg Virenque, Millar, others continue to claim innocence eg
Pantani.

Just because TH says he really really is innocent, this does not mean
much. Of course he'll say he's innocent until the case is heard and he
still has a chance of getting off on a technicality. Sorry the example
was too complex for you.

Certainly but since there's never been the slightest evidence that
Tyler was using performance enhancing drugs or "procedures" before we
ought to let this one play out.

Dr. Prentiss Steffen.

Oh, yeah, the guy that doesn't name names nor repeat exactly what
happened but expects everyone to believe that he's telling nothing but
the truth.

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Tom Kunich Wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact that EVERYONE else on his team admitted to
doping and Richard's name was in Voet's book with times and dosages.

Maybe you missed the fact that I used Virenque as an example.
The vast majority of those who get caught doping, Virenque included,
start out protesting their innocence. Some give up this claim
eventually, eg Virenque, Millar, others continue to claim innocence eg
Pantani.

Just because TH says he really really is innocent, this does not mean
much. Of course he'll say he's innocent until the case is heard and he
still has a chance of getting off on a technicality. Sorry the example
was too complex for you.

Certainly but since we
ought to let this one play out.

Dr. Prentiss Steffen.

Oh, yeah, the guy that doesn't name names nor repeat exactly what
happened but expects everyone to believe that he's telling nothing but
the truth.

You said, "...there's never been the slightest evidence that
Tyler was using performance enhancing drugs or "procedures" before......"

And I pointed out that your statement is incorrect given what Steffen is
quoted as saying in L.A. Confidential and in an interview broadcast by ESPN.

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Tom Kunich Wrote:
Maybe you missed the fact that EVERYONE else on his team admitted to
doping and Richard's name was in Voet's book with times and dosages.

Maybe you missed the fact that I used Virenque as an example.
The vast majority of those who get caught doping, Virenque included,
start out protesting their innocence. Some give up this claim
eventually, eg Virenque, Millar, others continue to claim innocence eg
Pantani.

Just because TH says he really really is innocent, this does not mean
much. Of course he'll say he's innocent until the case is heard and he
still has a chance of getting off on a technicality. Sorry the example
was too complex for you.

Certainly but since we
ought to let this one play out.

Dr. Prentiss Steffen.

Oh, yeah, the guy that doesn't name names nor repeat exactly what
happened but expects everyone to believe that he's telling nothing but
the truth.

You said, "...there's never been the slightest evidence that
Tyler was using performance enhancing drugs or "procedures" before......"

And I pointed out that your statement is incorrect given what Steffen is
quoted as saying in L.A. Confidential and in an interview broadcast by ESPN.

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:14:23 GMT, "B. Lafferty" wrote:

And I pointed out that your statement is incorrect given what Steffen is
quoted as saying in L.A. Confidential and in an interview broadcast by ESPN.

I may have missed it but is there any idea if LA Con. is coming out in
English, or is it on the 'Net somewhere to your knowledge, even in French?

-B

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:14:23 GMT, "B. Lafferty" wrote:

And I pointed out that your statement is incorrect given what Steffen is
quoted as saying in L.A. Confidential and in an interview broadcast by ESPN.

I may have missed it but is there any idea if LA Con. is coming out in
English, or is it on the 'Net somewhere to your knowledge, even in French?

-B

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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:14:23 GMT, "B. Lafferty" wrote:

And I pointed out that your statement is incorrect given what Steffen is
quoted as saying in L.A. Confidential and in an interview broadcast by
ESPN.

I may have missed it but is there any idea if LA Con. is coming out in
English, or is it on the 'Net somewhere to your knowledge, even in French?


You haven't missed it. No word yet on when, or if, it will come out in
English. Where are you? I might loan you the French copy that I have.