Uninsured motorists.

People complain that cyclists have no insurance but what about
motorists, who are much more dangerous?

"A suburb of Bradford is named today as the 'uninsured driving capital
of Britain' with nearly half the motorists there driving illegally
without cover.

Every second motorist (49.5 per cent) in Barkerend in the West
Yorkshire town is uninsured - the highest concentration of uninsured
drivers anywhere in the country according to a post-code map of the
problem.

They are among 1.7 million people across the UK who are driving
uninsured, according to shocking new research published today by the
Motor Insurers' Bureau.

It comes as the number of uninsured drivers soars by up to a third as
a result of the recession..."

Read mo
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0S5nMkeLB

BTW, as a cyclist I am insured, unlike the motorists mentioned above.

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"Doug" wrote in message
...
People complain that cyclists have no insurance but what about
motorists, who are much more dangerous?

What about them? I imagine your opinions of such people is not much
different from the majority (for a change). They are committing a criminal
offence, and deserve to be caught and punished.

Anything else?

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:22:31 +0100, "Graculus"
wrote:

"Doug" wrote in message
...
People complain that cyclists have no insurance but what about
motorists, who are much more dangerous?

What about them? I imagine your opinions of such people is not much
different from the majority (for a change). They are committing a criminal
offence, and deserve to be caught and punished.

The average £200 fine for driving uninsured is cheaper than the
average insurance premium of £400.

On 25 Sep, 06:48, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:22:31 +0100, "Graculus"

wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message
...
People complain that cyclists have no insurance but what about
motorists, who are much more dangerous?

What about them? I imagine your opinions of such people is not much
different from the majority (for a change). They are committing a criminal
offence, and deserve to be caught and punished.

The average £200 fine for driving uninsured is cheaper than the
average insurance premium of £400.

And what happens to their unfortunate victims who cannot claim
compensation after their lives are wrecked?

--
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www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

Doug wrote:
On 25 Sep, 06:48, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:22:31 +0100, "Graculus"

wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message
...
People complain that cyclists have no insurance but what about
motorists, who are much more dangerous?

What about them? I imagine your opinions of such people is not much
different from the majority (for a change). They are committing a
criminal offence, and deserve to be caught and punished.

The average £200 fine for driving uninsured is cheaper than the
average insurance premium of £400.

And what happens to their unfortunate victims who cannot claim
compensation after their lives are wrecked?

they claim from the motor insurance bureau

Doug wrote:
People complain that cyclists have no insurance but what about
motorists, who are much more dangerous?

"A suburb of Bradford is named today as the 'uninsured driving capital
of Britain' with nearly half the motorists there driving illegally
without cover.

Every second motorist (49.5 per cent) in Barkerend in the West
Yorkshire town is uninsured - the highest concentration of uninsured
drivers anywhere in the country according to a post-code map of the
problem.

They are among 1.7 million people across the UK who are driving
uninsured, according to shocking new research published today by the
Motor Insurers' Bureau.

It comes as the number of uninsured drivers soars by up to a third as
a result of the recession..."

Read mo
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0S5nMkeLB

BTW, as a cyclist I am insured, unlike the motorists mentioned above.

--
World Carfree Network
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

They are committing a criminal act, and if caught should be punished.
But as the average fine is less than the cost on insurance, they will
continue to do it.
Perhaps seizure of the car might help, but many of the uninsured cars
are almost worthless it might not help.
Perhaps a fine of at least twice what the insurance would have cost?
BTW, not all cyclists are insured.

--

Tony Dragon

"Doug" wrote in message
...
On 25 Sep, 06:48, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:22:31 +0100, "Graculus"

wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message
...
People complain that cyclists have no insurance but what about
motorists, who are much more dangerous?

What about them? I imagine your opinions of such people is not much
different from the majority (for a change). They are committing a
criminal
offence, and deserve to be caught and punished.

The average £200 fine for driving uninsured is cheaper than the
average insurance premium of £400.

And what happens to their unfortunate victims who cannot claim
compensation after their lives are wrecked?

I'm not sure whether the Police could catch and prosecute any uninsured
drivers without using methods that people like you are vehemently opposed
to. Roadblocks? ANPR technology? Fixed/mobile cameras? Reported by
neighbours? Surely uninsured drivers have the right not to be photographed,
searched for on a database or stopped by the Police for a documentation
check. Or do you agree with those methods because they are catching people
who are committing offences that you don't like?

What's the best way for the Police to proceed here do you think?

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:41:35 GMT, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Doug wrote:
On 25 Sep, 06:48, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:22:31 +0100, "Graculus"

wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message
...
People complain that cyclists have no insurance but what about
motorists, who are much more dangerous?

What about them? I imagine your opinions of such people is not much
different from the majority (for a change). They are committing a
criminal offence, and deserve to be caught and punished.

The average £200 fine for driving uninsured is cheaper than the
average insurance premium of £400.

And what happens to their unfortunate victims who cannot claim
compensation after their lives are wrecked?

they claim from the motor insurance bureau

Not the first £300.

The victim of an uninsured motorist faces a stiffer penalty than the
average uninsured motorist.

It is inarguable by reasonable people that some reform is needed for
dealing with motorists who drive without insurance.

Cutting off the goolies of uninsured drivers is a solution of which I
am sure we can find a consensus.

"Tom Crispin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:22:31 +0100, "Graculus"
wrote:

"Doug" wrote in message
...
People complain that cyclists have no insurance but what about
motorists, who are much more dangerous?

What about them? I imagine your opinions of such people is not much
different from the majority (for a change). They are committing a criminal
offence, and deserve to be caught and punished.

The average £200 fine for driving uninsured is cheaper than the
average insurance premium of £400.

Plus 6-8 points, and seizure of the vehicle.

"Tom Crispin" wrote in message
...

they claim from the motor insurance bureau

Not the first £300.

The victim of an uninsured motorist faces a stiffer penalty than the
average uninsured motorist.

It is inarguable by reasonable people that some reform is needed for
dealing with motorists who drive without insurance.

Cutting off the goolies of uninsured drivers is a solution of which I
am sure we can find a consensus.

How the **** does that get the victim is £300 back? What you want is a
system that is impossible to evade. What is the one thing you must have if
you have a car? Fuel. So scrap the requirement to have insurance and put a
massive levy on fuel to fund a centralised universal insurance scheme.