A Cycling & bikes forum. CycleBanter.com

Go Back   Home » CycleBanter.com forum » rec.bicycles » Techniques
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Look Keo Pedals



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old April 29th 19, 05:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,260
Default Look Keo Pedals

For those interested in a light pedal, I have bought and tried the Look Keo Blade pedals.

They are smaller and lighter than the Delta pedals at 230 grams per pair. The spring isn't metal but a carbon fiber plate that seems to work quite well.

The one problem is that they are so light that they do not rotate into the proper position to easily click into them. The low friction of the bearings is almost to high to allow them to rotate reliably. Now perhaps the bearing seals will wear in and allow the pedals to be more reliably rotated so I'll see about that.

The cleats are smaller so if you intend to use pedals like this you should have solid carbon soles on your shoes to prevent getting a hot-foot on long rides.

These smaller cleats are a great deal more difficult to walk on polished surfaces on so be sure when you buy the pedals you also order the rubber walking cleat covers at the same time. My old Delta covers work half-assed but fall off easily so if the Keo covers don't arrive on time you CAN use the old Delta covers for a short while.

My overall perception of these is that I will change over all of my bikes to these pedals. They seem to hold the cleat in more reliably and they click out easier.
Ads
  #2  
Old April 29th 19, 08:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,994
Default Look Keo Pedals

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-7, wrote:
For those interested in a light pedal, I have bought and tried the Look Keo Blade pedals.

They are smaller and lighter than the Delta pedals at 230 grams per pair. The spring isn't metal but a carbon fiber plate that seems to work quite well.

The one problem is that they are so light that they do not rotate into the proper position to easily click into them. The low friction of the bearings is almost to high to allow them to rotate reliably. Now perhaps the bearing seals will wear in and allow the pedals to be more reliably rotated so I'll see about that.

The cleats are smaller so if you intend to use pedals like this you should have solid carbon soles on your shoes to prevent getting a hot-foot on long rides.

These smaller cleats are a great deal more difficult to walk on polished surfaces on so be sure when you buy the pedals you also order the rubber walking cleat covers at the same time. My old Delta covers work half-assed but fall off easily so if the Keo covers don't arrive on time you CAN use the old Delta covers for a short while.

My overall perception of these is that I will change over all of my bikes to these pedals. They seem to hold the cleat in more reliably and they click out easier.


I just dumped my Keo Blades and got some plain old Keo2 Max because the blades on the blades kind of went flaccid, and I didn't feel like spending the money to replace them. I was pulling out of them regularly. I'll eventually buy some new blades because I need a second set of pedals.

-- Jay Beattie.
  #3  
Old April 29th 19, 09:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Duane[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,501
Default Look Keo Pedals

jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-7, wrote:
For those interested in a light pedal, I have bought and tried the Look Keo Blade pedals.

They are smaller and lighter than the Delta pedals at 230 grams per
pair. The spring isn't metal but a carbon fiber plate that seems to work quite well.

The one problem is that they are so light that they do not rotate into
the proper position to easily click into them. The low friction of the
bearings is almost to high to allow them to rotate reliably. Now perhaps
the bearing seals will wear in and allow the pedals to be more reliably
rotated so I'll see about that.

The cleats are smaller so if you intend to use pedals like this you
should have solid carbon soles on your shoes to prevent getting a hot-foot on long rides.

These smaller cleats are a great deal more difficult to walk on polished
surfaces on so be sure when you buy the pedals you also order the rubber
walking cleat covers at the same time. My old Delta covers work
half-assed but fall off easily so if the Keo covers don't arrive on time
you CAN use the old Delta covers for a short while.

My overall perception of these is that I will change over all of my
bikes to these pedals. They seem to hold the cleat in more reliably and
they click out easier.


I just dumped my Keo Blades and got some plain old Keo2 Max because the
blades on the blades kind of went flaccid, and I didn't feel like
spending the money to replace them. I was pulling out of them regularly.
I'll eventually buy some new blades because I need a second set of pedals.

-- Jay Beattie.


My Keo2 Max started creaking. Any suggestions?

--
duane
  #4  
Old April 29th 19, 10:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,260
Default Look Keo Pedals

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 1:29:37 PM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-7, wrote:
For those interested in a light pedal, I have bought and tried the Look Keo Blade pedals.

They are smaller and lighter than the Delta pedals at 230 grams per
pair. The spring isn't metal but a carbon fiber plate that seems to work quite well.

The one problem is that they are so light that they do not rotate into
the proper position to easily click into them. The low friction of the
bearings is almost to high to allow them to rotate reliably. Now perhaps
the bearing seals will wear in and allow the pedals to be more reliably
rotated so I'll see about that.

The cleats are smaller so if you intend to use pedals like this you
should have solid carbon soles on your shoes to prevent getting a hot-foot on long rides.

These smaller cleats are a great deal more difficult to walk on polished
surfaces on so be sure when you buy the pedals you also order the rubber
walking cleat covers at the same time. My old Delta covers work
half-assed but fall off easily so if the Keo covers don't arrive on time
you CAN use the old Delta covers for a short while.

My overall perception of these is that I will change over all of my
bikes to these pedals. They seem to hold the cleat in more reliably and
they click out easier.


I just dumped my Keo Blades and got some plain old Keo2 Max because the
blades on the blades kind of went flaccid, and I didn't feel like
spending the money to replace them. I was pulling out of them regularly.
I'll eventually buy some new blades because I need a second set of pedals.

-- Jay Beattie.


My Keo2 Max started creaking. Any suggestions?

--
duane


There's only one place for them to "creak". Where the metal spring rubs against the clip axle. The metal pedal axle is permanently lubricated.
  #5  
Old April 29th 19, 10:32 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,260
Default Look Keo Pedals

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 12:56:36 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-7, wrote:
For those interested in a light pedal, I have bought and tried the Look Keo Blade pedals.

They are smaller and lighter than the Delta pedals at 230 grams per pair. The spring isn't metal but a carbon fiber plate that seems to work quite well.

The one problem is that they are so light that they do not rotate into the proper position to easily click into them. The low friction of the bearings is almost to high to allow them to rotate reliably. Now perhaps the bearing seals will wear in and allow the pedals to be more reliably rotated so I'll see about that.

The cleats are smaller so if you intend to use pedals like this you should have solid carbon soles on your shoes to prevent getting a hot-foot on long rides.

These smaller cleats are a great deal more difficult to walk on polished surfaces on so be sure when you buy the pedals you also order the rubber walking cleat covers at the same time. My old Delta covers work half-assed but fall off easily so if the Keo covers don't arrive on time you CAN use the old Delta covers for a short while.

My overall perception of these is that I will change over all of my bikes to these pedals. They seem to hold the cleat in more reliably and they click out easier.


I just dumped my Keo Blades and got some plain old Keo2 Max because the blades on the blades kind of went flaccid, and I didn't feel like spending the money to replace them. I was pulling out of them regularly. I'll eventually buy some new blades because I need a second set of pedals.

-- Jay Beattie.


I'll keep an eye for that. An entire rebuild kit is $43 from Hong Kong. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Look-Keo-Bl...MZWaQiotKVWYDw
  #6  
Old April 30th 19, 01:16 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,994
Default Look Keo Pedals

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 1:29:37 PM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-7, wrote:
For those interested in a light pedal, I have bought and tried the Look Keo Blade pedals.

They are smaller and lighter than the Delta pedals at 230 grams per
pair. The spring isn't metal but a carbon fiber plate that seems to work quite well.

The one problem is that they are so light that they do not rotate into
the proper position to easily click into them. The low friction of the
bearings is almost to high to allow them to rotate reliably. Now perhaps
the bearing seals will wear in and allow the pedals to be more reliably
rotated so I'll see about that.

The cleats are smaller so if you intend to use pedals like this you
should have solid carbon soles on your shoes to prevent getting a hot-foot on long rides.

These smaller cleats are a great deal more difficult to walk on polished
surfaces on so be sure when you buy the pedals you also order the rubber
walking cleat covers at the same time. My old Delta covers work
half-assed but fall off easily so if the Keo covers don't arrive on time
you CAN use the old Delta covers for a short while.

My overall perception of these is that I will change over all of my
bikes to these pedals. They seem to hold the cleat in more reliably and
they click out easier.


I just dumped my Keo Blades and got some plain old Keo2 Max because the
blades on the blades kind of went flaccid, and I didn't feel like
spending the money to replace them. I was pulling out of them regularly.
I'll eventually buy some new blades because I need a second set of pedals.

-- Jay Beattie.


My Keo2 Max started creaking. Any suggestions?


Start with some Teflon tape around the spindle threads. Actually, start with tightening your rear QR.

I once had a Keo2 Max pedal body come off the spindle (stuck to my cleat), but it didn't make any noise first. I think it was an issue with early production. The store replaced it.

-- Jay Beattie.

  #7  
Old April 30th 19, 01:26 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
James[_8_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,953
Default Look Keo Pedals

On 30/4/19 10:16 am, jbeattie wrote:


I once had a Keo2 Max pedal body come off the spindle (stuck to my
cleat), but it didn't make any noise first. I think it was an issue
with early production. The store replaced it.


I bought a new pair recently. The threaded plastic retainer started to
undo on both pedals, even after I tightened it up. I applied a little
sticky oil (like linseed) and they have not loosened again.

--
JS
  #8  
Old April 30th 19, 11:43 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Duane[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,501
Default Look Keo Pedals

jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 1:29:37 PM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-7, wrote:
For those interested in a light pedal, I have bought and tried the
Look Keo Blade pedals.

They are smaller and lighter than the Delta pedals at 230 grams per
pair. The spring isn't metal but a carbon fiber plate that seems to work quite well.

The one problem is that they are so light that they do not rotate into
the proper position to easily click into them. The low friction of the
bearings is almost to high to allow them to rotate reliably. Now perhaps
the bearing seals will wear in and allow the pedals to be more reliably
rotated so I'll see about that.

The cleats are smaller so if you intend to use pedals like this you
should have solid carbon soles on your shoes to prevent getting a
hot-foot on long rides.

These smaller cleats are a great deal more difficult to walk on polished
surfaces on so be sure when you buy the pedals you also order the rubber
walking cleat covers at the same time. My old Delta covers work
half-assed but fall off easily so if the Keo covers don't arrive on time
you CAN use the old Delta covers for a short while.

My overall perception of these is that I will change over all of my
bikes to these pedals. They seem to hold the cleat in more reliably and
they click out easier.

I just dumped my Keo Blades and got some plain old Keo2 Max because the
blades on the blades kind of went flaccid, and I didn't feel like
spending the money to replace them. I was pulling out of them regularly.
I'll eventually buy some new blades because I need a second set of pedals.

-- Jay Beattie.


My Keo2 Max started creaking. Any suggestions?


Start with some Teflon tape around the spindle threads. Actually, start
with tightening your rear QR.

I once had a Keo2 Max pedal body come off the spindle (stuck to my
cleat), but it didn't make any noise first. I think it was an issue with
early production. The store replaced it.

-- Jay Beattie.



Had the same thing happen. Odd but was with another rider a couple weeks
later and the same thing happened with their Keos. Only two instances
I’ve seen and within a couple weeks. Bad batch?

Teflon tape and a touch of lock tight and they’re tight. Thinking now
it’s maybe the slip grips on the cleats.

--
duane
  #9  
Old May 1st 19, 12:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,260
Default Look Keo Pedals

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 3:43:28 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 1:29:37 PM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-7, wrote:
For those interested in a light pedal, I have bought and tried the
Look Keo Blade pedals.

They are smaller and lighter than the Delta pedals at 230 grams per
pair. The spring isn't metal but a carbon fiber plate that seems to work quite well.

The one problem is that they are so light that they do not rotate into
the proper position to easily click into them. The low friction of the
bearings is almost to high to allow them to rotate reliably. Now perhaps
the bearing seals will wear in and allow the pedals to be more reliably
rotated so I'll see about that.

The cleats are smaller so if you intend to use pedals like this you
should have solid carbon soles on your shoes to prevent getting a
hot-foot on long rides.

These smaller cleats are a great deal more difficult to walk on polished
surfaces on so be sure when you buy the pedals you also order the rubber
walking cleat covers at the same time. My old Delta covers work
half-assed but fall off easily so if the Keo covers don't arrive on time
you CAN use the old Delta covers for a short while.

My overall perception of these is that I will change over all of my
bikes to these pedals. They seem to hold the cleat in more reliably and
they click out easier.

I just dumped my Keo Blades and got some plain old Keo2 Max because the
blades on the blades kind of went flaccid, and I didn't feel like
spending the money to replace them. I was pulling out of them regularly.
I'll eventually buy some new blades because I need a second set of pedals.

-- Jay Beattie.


My Keo2 Max started creaking. Any suggestions?


Start with some Teflon tape around the spindle threads. Actually, start
with tightening your rear QR.

I once had a Keo2 Max pedal body come off the spindle (stuck to my
cleat), but it didn't make any noise first. I think it was an issue with
early production. The store replaced it.

-- Jay Beattie.



Had the same thing happen. Odd but was with another rider a couple weeks
later and the same thing happened with their Keos. Only two instances
I’ve seen and within a couple weeks. Bad batch?

Teflon tape and a touch of lock tight and they’re tight. Thinking now
it’s maybe the slip grips on the cleats.

--
duane


Remember that the axle for the locking plate is replaceable which means that it is something that could come loose and make noise.

I have something that had to do with the FSA Gossamer cranks making noise. One of the reasons that I've liked the FSA is because I never had any problems with them and they were always silent. This makes me want Campy cranks now since there is a locking screw that can lock everything together positively. Before these I had bought an FSA SL-K 386 crank and what arrived was a narrow shaft version - 86?? Third time is the charm since I bought a new gossamer from some guy and it too was the narrow shaft version. I recently sold that one to a guy who only intended to use the rings. At least I got my money back.
  #10  
Old May 1st 19, 12:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,260
Default Look Keo Pedals

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-7, wrote:
For those interested in a light pedal, I have bought and tried the Look Keo Blade pedals.

They are smaller and lighter than the Delta pedals at 230 grams per pair. The spring isn't metal but a carbon fiber plate that seems to work quite well.

The one problem is that they are so light that they do not rotate into the proper position to easily click into them. The low friction of the bearings is almost to high to allow them to rotate reliably. Now perhaps the bearing seals will wear in and allow the pedals to be more reliably rotated so I'll see about that.

The cleats are smaller so if you intend to use pedals like this you should have solid carbon soles on your shoes to prevent getting a hot-foot on long rides.

These smaller cleats are a great deal more difficult to walk on polished surfaces on so be sure when you buy the pedals you also order the rubber walking cleat covers at the same time. My old Delta covers work half-assed but fall off easily so if the Keo covers don't arrive on time you CAN use the old Delta covers for a short while.

My overall perception of these is that I will change over all of my bikes to these pedals. They seem to hold the cleat in more reliably and they click out easier.


OK, I did a nonstop 50 miler today with nearly 5,000 feet of climbing. I was SLOWWWW with just under a 10 mph average. Part of this was because it was almost winter-like weather with wind blowing in your face no matter what direction you turned. And I had only a thin long sleeve jersey and shorts on.. The gloves cut off the circulation in my left hand and finally I couldn't shift. I removed the glove and only got partial use of the hand because it was so cold out.

In any case I gave the pedals a very good workout. My impression of them now is even better than it was Sunday.

Because of Jay's comments about the carbon clip spring getting flaccid I bought a rebuild kit to keep on the shelf. As is usual with this, Jay's experience was probably an outlier and I'll have this kit on the shelf forever.

But they are so much easier to clip into than the Delta pedals and they weight a little less @ $100 as the top of the line Delta Looks at twice the price it seems a good idea to replace all of those pedals. Or with my luck the price will double in a week.
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What pedals do you use? skrobo Unicycling 14 October 1st 08 12:49 AM
Animal Pedals Or TrailMix Pedals? stevorama Unicycling 1 July 9th 08 06:12 AM
FA: Ritchey Road Pro Pedals - Onza TI MTB Pedals - Tour de France & Campi Cycling Caps SiberianTradingPost Marketplace 0 July 18th 05 03:47 PM
Can someone ID these pedals? Larry Coon Techniques 10 October 18th 04 10:44 PM
WTB: Speedplay road pedals or Time Impact Pedals Milsk8 Marketplace 1 April 25th 04 02:33 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2004-2019 CycleBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.