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Old April 19th 11, 12:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_2_]
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Are bicycles on the road really a suitable form of transport nowadays? It
appears that the risk of death from a simple falling off is rather high.
Another one that was killed by head injuries.

http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...all_on_common/


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Old April 19th 11, 03:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
PhilO
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On Apr 19, 12:46*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Are bicycles on the road really a suitable form of transport nowadays? *It
appears that the risk of death from a simple falling off is rather high.
Another one that was killed by head injuries.

http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...es_after_fall_...


To show how misleading Cheerless is, the link actually says:

"The driver of the Kia, a man in his 70s, was arrested in connection
with the incident and released on police bail while enquiries
continue."

Doesn't sound like a "simple falling off" to me
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Old April 19th 11, 03:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 19/04/2011 15:06, PhilO wrote:

On Apr 19, 12:46 pm, wrote:


Are bicycles on the road really a suitable form of transport nowadays? It
appears that the risk of death from a simple falling off is rather high.
Another one that was killed by head injuries.


http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...es_after_fall_...


To show how misleading Cheerless is, the link actually says:


"The driver of the Kia, a man in his 70s, was arrested in connection
with the incident and released on police bail while enquiries
continue."


Doesn't sound like a "simple falling off" to me


QUOTE:
The incident took place on the B4208 at 10.50am on Friday (April 15). A blue
Kia Sorento is believed to have turned onto the road from a side lane and the
cyclist, travelling along the lane in the direction of Welland, is thought to
have then lost control of his bike and fallen onto the road.

There is not thought to have been any contact between the bike and the car.
ENDQUOTE

That's an important bit, surely?

QUOTE:
The cyclist, a man in his 70s, suffered serious head injuries. He was taken
to Queen Elizabeth Hospital, in Birmingham, where he later died.

The driver of the Kia, a man in his 70s, was arrested in connection with the
incident and released on police bail while enquiries continue.
ENDQUOTE

This modern habit of the police in arresting people at the scene of traffic
accidents is starting to be worrying. It isn't as though the average driver
cannot be contacted later if it comes to a summons or even an arrest.

If there is a real question over identity, or the vehicle, driving licence or
insurance status, fair enough.

If the driver is over the alcohol limit, fair enough.

But for a typical licensed, insured driver in a roadworthy vehicle with all
the right paperwork, being arrested simply for being (perhaps very
tangentially) involved in an accident is a bit OTT. Apart from anything else,
accidents happen all the time and may well not have been the fault of the
person arrested, whereas being arrested can (even if not later convicted)
have serious consequences.
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Old April 19th 11, 05:05 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Squashme
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Default another one falls off and dies

On Apr 19, 3:21*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 19/04/2011 15:06, PhilO wrote:

On Apr 19, 12:46 pm, *wrote:
Are bicycles on the road really a suitable form of transport nowadays? *It
appears that the risk of death from a simple falling off is rather high.
Another one that was killed by head injuries.
http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...es_after_fall_....

To show how misleading Cheerless is, the link actually says:
"The driver of the Kia, a man in his 70s, was arrested in connection
with the incident and released on police bail while enquiries
continue."
Doesn't sound like a "simple falling off" to me


QUOTE:
The incident took place on the B4208 at 10.50am on Friday (April 15). A blue
Kia Sorento is believed to have turned onto the road from a side lane and the
cyclist, travelling along the lane in the direction of Welland, is thought to
have then lost control of his bike and fallen onto the road.

There is not thought to have been any contact between the bike and the car.

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Old April 19th 11, 05:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_7_]
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On 19/04/2011 17:05, Squashme wrote:

On Apr 19, 3:21 pm, wrote:
On 19/04/2011 15:06, PhilO wrote:
On Apr 19, 12:46 pm, wrote:


Are bicycles on the road really a suitable form of transport nowadays? It
appears that the risk of death from a simple falling off is rather high.
Another one that was killed by head injuries.
http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...es_after_fall_...
To show how misleading Cheerless is, the link actually says:
"The driver of the Kia, a man in his 70s, was arrested in connection
with the incident and released on police bail while enquiries
continue."


Doesn't sound like a "simple falling off" to me


QUOTE:
The incident took place on the B4208 at 10.50am on Friday (April 15). A blue
Kia Sorento is believed to have turned onto the road from a side lane and the
cyclist, travelling along the lane in the direction of Welland, is thought to
have then lost control of his bike and fallen onto the road.


There is not thought to have been any contact between the bike and the car.
ENDQUOTE


That's an important bit, surely?


Nobody ever cut suddenly across your bows then?


What difference does that make? You can compose two answers if you like: one
as if my answer were "no" and another as if it had been "yes".

QUOTE:
The cyclist, a man in his 70s, suffered serious head injuries. He was taken
to Queen Elizabeth Hospital, in Birmingham, where he later died.
The driver of the Kia, a man in his 70s, was arrested in connection with the
incident and released on police bail while enquiries continue.
ENDQUOTE


This modern habit of the police in arresting people at the scene of traffic
accidents is starting to be worrying. It isn't as though the average driver
cannot be contacted later if it comes to a summons or even an arrest.


It apparently is referred to as an incident, not an accident. There
may be a difference, don't you think?


In everyday terms? No difference at all. The police traditionally referred to
such incidents (if the use of that word makes you happier) as road traffic
accidents (RTAs).

If there is a real question over identity, or the vehicle, driving licence or
insurance status, fair enough.
If the driver is over the alcohol limit, fair enough.
But for a typical licensed, insured driver in a roadworthy vehicle with all
the right paperwork, being arrested simply for being (perhaps very
tangentially) involved in an accident is a bit OTT. Apart from anything else,
accidents happen all the time and may well not have been the fault of the
person arrested, whereas being arrested can (even if not later convicted)
have serious consequences.


Good God, yes. I mean, he's in his 70s. We wouldn't want to make him
late, unlike the cyclist (in his 70s).


It can have rather more of an effect than that. And maybe a septuagenarian
would not be the one who would experience the worst aspects of it.
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Old April 19th 11, 06:39 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
The Medway Handyman[_4_]
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Default another one falls off and dies

On 19/04/2011 15:06, PhilO wrote:
On Apr 19, 12:46 pm, wrote:
Are bicycles on the road really a suitable form of transport nowadays? It
appears that the risk of death from a simple falling off is rather high.
Another one that was killed by head injuries.

http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...es_after_fall_...


To show how misleading Cheerless is, the link actually says:

"The driver of the Kia, a man in his 70s, was arrested in connection
with the incident and released on police bail while enquiries
continue."

Doesn't sound like a "simple falling off" to me


It wouldn't. You are a thick ****.

"There is not thought to have been any contact between the bike and the
car".




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Old April 19th 11, 06:41 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
The Medway Handyman[_4_]
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Default another one falls off and dies

On 19/04/2011 17:05, Squashme wrote:
On Apr 19, 3:21 pm, wrote:
On 19/04/2011 15:06, PhilO wrote:

On Apr 19, 12:46 pm, wrote:
Are bicycles on the road really a suitable form of transport nowadays? It
appears that the risk of death from a simple falling off is rather high.
Another one that was killed by head injuries.
http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...es_after_fall_...
To show how misleading Cheerless is, the link actually says:
"The driver of the Kia, a man in his 70s, was arrested in connection
with the incident and released on police bail while enquiries
continue."
Doesn't sound like a "simple falling off" to me


QUOTE:
The incident took place on the B4208 at 10.50am on Friday (April 15). A blue
Kia Sorento is believed to have turned onto the road from a side lane and the
cyclist, travelling along the lane in the direction of Welland, is thought to
have then lost control of his bike and fallen onto the road.

There is not thought to have been any contact between the bike and the car.
ENDQUOTE

That's an important bit, surely?


Nobody ever cut suddenly across your bows then?


Occasionally. But being a trained driver in a stable vehicle with
excellent brakes - I didn't fall off.

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Old April 19th 11, 06:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
The Medway Handyman[_4_]
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Default another one falls off and dies

On 19/04/2011 12:46, Mrcheerful wrote:
Are bicycles on the road really a suitable form of transport nowadays? It
appears that the risk of death from a simple falling off is rather high.
Another one that was killed by head injuries.

http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...all_on_common/


Not wearing a helmet presumably?


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Old April 19th 11, 08:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Squashme
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On Apr 19, 5:15*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 19/04/2011 17:05, Squashme wrote:



On Apr 19, 3:21 pm, *wrote:
On 19/04/2011 15:06, PhilO wrote:
On Apr 19, 12:46 pm, * *wrote:
Are bicycles on the road really a suitable form of transport nowadays? *It
appears that the risk of death from a simple falling off is rather high.
Another one that was killed by head injuries.
http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...es_after_fall_....
To show how misleading Cheerless is, the link actually says:
"The driver of the Kia, a man in his 70s, was arrested in connection
with the incident and released on police bail while enquiries
continue."
Doesn't sound like a "simple falling off" to me
QUOTE:
The incident took place on the B4208 at 10.50am on Friday (April 15). A blue
Kia Sorento is believed to have turned onto the road from a side lane and the
cyclist, travelling along the lane in the direction of Welland, is thought to
have then lost control of his bike and fallen onto the road.
There is not thought to have been any contact between the bike and the car.
ENDQUOTE
That's an important bit, surely?

Nobody ever cut suddenly across your bows then?


What difference does that make? You can compose two answers if you like: one
as if my answer were "no" and another as if it had been "yes".


Macht nichts. Either way you are a ****wit.

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Old April 19th 11, 08:10 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_7_]
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On 19/04/2011 20:06, Squashme wrote:
On Apr 19, 5:15 pm, wrote:
On 19/04/2011 17:05, Squashme wrote:



On Apr 19, 3:21 pm, wrote:
On 19/04/2011 15:06, PhilO wrote:
On Apr 19, 12:46 pm, wrote:
Are bicycles on the road really a suitable form of transport nowadays? It
appears that the risk of death from a simple falling off is rather high.
Another one that was killed by head injuries.
http://www.malverngazette.co.uk/news...es_after_fall_...
To show how misleading Cheerless is, the link actually says:
"The driver of the Kia, a man in his 70s, was arrested in connection
with the incident and released on police bail while enquiries
continue."
Doesn't sound like a "simple falling off" to me
QUOTE:
The incident took place on the B4208 at 10.50am on Friday (April 15). A blue
Kia Sorento is believed to have turned onto the road from a side lane and the
cyclist, travelling along the lane in the direction of Welland, is thought to
have then lost control of his bike and fallen onto the road.
There is not thought to have been any contact between the bike and the car.
ENDQUOTE
That's an important bit, surely?
Nobody ever cut suddenly across your bows then?


What difference does that make? You can compose two answers if you like: one
as if my answer were "no" and another as if it had been "yes".


Macht nichts. Either way you are a ****wit.


You've been hitting the bottle a little early tonight, I see.
 




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