mobile phones whilst cycling?

according to the Stannit it carries a £2500 fine, accompanying a photo
of Boris Johnston doing the same. Maybe I'll take up driving when I
want to use one, it's cheaper ;-)

MartinM wrote:
according to the Stannit it carries a £2500 fine, accompanying a photo
of Boris Johnston doing the same. Maybe I'll take up driving when I
want to use one, it's cheaper ;-)

I found nothing in the HC under Cyclists or Moble Phone in the index.
Can anyone tell us if other legislation might be found?

Robert

"BigRab" wrote in message
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MartinM wrote:
according to the Stannit it carries a £2500 fine, accompanying a photo
of Boris Johnston doing the same. Maybe I'll take up driving when I
want to use one, it's cheaper ;-)

I found nothing in the HC under Cyclists or Moble Phone in the index.
Can anyone tell us if other legislation might be found?

If memory serves me correctly, the original law on Mobiles was brought in as
enabling legislation on a bill that didn't apply to cycles (Road Vehicles
Construction and Use???).

I believe it has now been enabled in legislation that applies to all road
vehicles, and bicycles are road vehicles, and now they can apply full
penalties to the offence (i.e. upto 2500) as opposed to the 30 pound fixed
charge.

Sorry to be so vague, and I may well be wrong,

All the best

E

Eddie wrote on 06/10/2006 16:50 +0100:

Sorry to be so vague, and I may well be wrong,


You are right....but only about being wrong.

(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a road if he is using -

(a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or

(b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4).

(2) No person shall cause or permit any other person to drive a
motor vehicle on a road while that other person is using -

(a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or

(b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4).

(3) No person shall supervise a holder of a provisional licence if
the person supervising is using -

(a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or

(b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4),

at a time when the provisional licence holder is driving a motor vehicle
on a road.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2003/20032695.htm
The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations
2003


--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
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Tony Raven said the following on 06/10/2006 17:10:

(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a road if he is using -

(a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or

(b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4).

Regardless of what the law says, or how it may be (mis)interpreted,
surely common sense should suggest that using a mobile phone whilst
driving or cycling is a stupid thing to do. Doesn't stop people doing
it though! Last time my phone rang whilst I was cycling, I stopped to
answer it. Does putting my foot down count as switching the engine off? :-)

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

"Paul Boyd" wrote in message
...
Tony Raven said the following on 06/10/2006 17:10:

(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a road if he is using -

(a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or

(b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4).

Regardless of what the law says, or how it may be (mis)interpreted, surely
common sense should suggest that using a mobile phone whilst driving or
cycling is a stupid thing to do. Doesn't stop people doing it though!
Last time my phone rang whilst I was cycling, I stopped to answer it.
Does putting my foot down count as switching the engine off? :-)

That's just your point of view. I can cycle competently no-handed, why does
using a mobile on a quiet towpath make this dangerous or stupid? Sure,
cycling up the A4 with a mobile is stupid.

Paul Boyd wrote on 07/10/2006 09:45 +0100:
Tony Raven said the following on 06/10/2006 17:10:

(1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a road if he is using -

(a) a hand-held mobile telephone; or

(b) a hand-held device of a kind specified in paragraph (4).

Regardless of what the law says, or how it may be (mis)interpreted,
surely common sense should suggest that using a mobile phone whilst
driving or cycling is a stupid thing to do. Doesn't stop people doing
it though! Last time my phone rang whilst I was cycling, I stopped to
answer it. Does putting my foot down count as switching the engine off?
:-)


But the law is what was being discussed. I wear a bluetooth headset so
I don't find cycling and phoning a problem. Mind you, on a stiff climb
when you need to stop for a rest, getting the phone out and pretending
you had to stop for a call can save embarrassment ;-)

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Tony Raven said the following on 07/10/2006 11:00:

Mind you, on a stiff climb
when you need to stop for a rest, getting the phone out and pretending
you had to stop for a call can save embarrassment ;-)

That's what scenery is for - to stop to admire :-)

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Response to Tony Raven:

But the law is what was being discussed. I wear a bluetooth headset so
I don't find cycling and phoning a problem.

Shirley WRT car drivers at least, research indicates that the problem is
in the attention given to the conversation, rather than the physical
handling of the phone. How that translates to cycling I don't know.


Mind you, on a stiff climb
when you need to stop for a rest, getting the phone out and pretending
you had to stop for a call can save embarrassment ;-)

blush

N.B.: Do not actually *use* the phone while having a breather on a
stiff climb, as the panting can be misinterpreted.


--
Mark, UK
"What arouses the indignation of the honest satirist is not, unless the
man is a prig, the fact that people in positions of power or influence
behave idiotically, or even that they behave wickedly. It is that they
conspire successfully to impose upon the public a picture of themselves
as so very sagacious, honest and well-intentioned."

in message , Mark McNeill
') wrote:

Response to Tony Raven:

But the law is what was being discussed. I wear a bluetooth headset so
I don't find cycling and phoning a problem.

Shirley WRT car drivers at least, research indicates that the problem is
in the attention given to the conversation, rather than the physical
handling of the phone. How that translates to cycling I don't know.

I would suggest it's much the same, with the rider that (usually) lower
speed and lower kinetic energy adds up to less urgent need for full
attention at all times.

--
(Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; Drivers in the UK kill more people every single year than
;; Al Qaeda have ever killed worldwide in any single year.