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Labour MP Margaret Hodge floors cyclist whilst talking on mobile phone
On Sat, 04 May 2013 11:57:02 +0100, Dave- Cyclists VORC
wrote: On 04/05/2013 11:38, Cassandra wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2013 20:46:40 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 03/05/2013 20:34, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 03/05/2013 11:53, CJB wrote: Labour MP Margaret Hodge accused of flooring cyclist with her car door while talking on mobile phone Cyclist clearly failing to use observation, anticipation & hazard awareness skills. He should have been charged with criminal damage to the car door. It *is* odd that cyclists expect sufficient clearance when being overtaken that they can perform a deviation in course as wide as they choose (the "wobble") and still not be hit even when they suddenly veer into the path of overtaking traffic, whilst on the other hand, they (or some of them at least) cannot be trusted to do a simple thing like stay a few feet away from the offside of a stationary passenger vehicle where disgorging of its occupants (with always at least one alighting from the offside) is easily prdictable and whose occupants can actually be seen (by those who can be bothered to look). I typically travel along highways faster than a cyclist would and could therefore claim that I need even more notice of a vehicle door being opened in my path, yet in probably something approaching a half million miles of driving in urban areas, I have never even come close to hitting a vehicle's opening or opened door, or an emerging vehicle occupant. I've never opened a car door into ther path of another road user because all my vehicles are fitted with a reflective piece of glass bolted to the door Or in other words, motorists use anticipation, observation & hazard awareness skills. and thats why they always complain their insurance is too high... |
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Labour MP Margaret Hodge floors cyclist whilst talking on mobile phone
On Sat, 04 May 2013 11:30:51 +0100, Dave- Cyclists VORC
wrote: On 04/05/2013 11:28, Cassandra wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2013 20:34:26 +0100, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 03/05/2013 11:53, CJB wrote: Labour MP Margaret Hodge accused of flooring cyclist with her car door while talking on mobile phone Cyclist clearly failing to use observation, anticipation & hazard awareness skills. As you clearly have major psychological problems sharing the road with other road users, Only the sponging freeloaders on unsuitable vehicles - or cyclists as they are known. perhaps you should brush up on these basic motoring skills ? I don't have to. I have passed a test of competence, unlike cyclists. So have I and I'm a cyclist, so you are clearly wrong. |
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Labour MP Margaret Hodge floors cyclist whilst talking onmobile phone
On Sat, 04 May 2013 17:32:49 +0100, Judith wrote:
On Fri, 03 May 2013 20:46:40 +0100, JNugent wrote: snip I typically travel along highways faster than a cyclist would and could therefore claim that I need even more notice of a vehicle door being opened in my path, yet in probably something approaching a half million miles of driving in urban areas, I have never even come close to hitting a vehicle's opening or opened door, or an emerging vehicle occupant. I suspect that you actually look where you are going and do not stare down at the road just in front of your front wheels whilst listening to music on your noise canceling headphones. (I quite miss Captain Troll Buster) Does he have a horse? |
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Labour MP Margaret Hodge floors cyclist whilst talking on mobile phone
On May 4, 10:03*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2013 21:52, Squashme wrote: On May 4, 3:46 pm, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2013 11:40, Squashme wrote: On May 3, 8:46 pm, JNugent wrote: On 03/05/2013 20:34, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 03/05/2013 11:53, CJB wrote: Labour MP Margaret Hodge accused of flooring cyclist with her car door while talking on mobile phone Cyclist clearly failing to use observation, anticipation & hazard awareness skills. He should have been charged with criminal damage to the car door. It *is* odd that cyclists expect sufficient clearance when being overtaken that they can perform a deviation in course as wide as they choose (the "wobble") and still not be hit even when they suddenly veer into the path of overtaking traffic, whilst on the other hand, they (or some of them at least) cannot be trusted to do a simple thing like stay a few feet away from the offside of a stationary passenger vehicle where disgorging of its occupants (with always at least one alighting from the offside) is easily prdictable and whose occupants can actually be seen (by those who can be bothered to look). I typically travel along highways faster than a cyclist would and could therefore claim that I need even more notice of a vehicle door being opened in my path, yet in probably something approaching a half million miles of driving in urban areas, I have never even come close to hitting a vehicle's opening or opened door, or an emerging vehicle occupant. It's a mystery that motorists manage to see cars, isn't it? This issue is nothing to do with "motorists" Oh, I see. It's the cyclists who open the doors is it? It is (some) cyclists who fail to see the doors, possibly - nay, probably - because they are not looking far enough ahead. It is (some) motorists who fail to see the cyclists, possibly - nay, probably - because they are not looking behind at all. The cyclists do not bring the doors with them. The motorists are surely not opening their doors expecting that they don't have to look behind, or are they? |
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Labour MP Margaret Hodge floors cyclist whilst talking on mobile phone
"Squashme" wrote in message ... On May 4, 3:46 pm, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2013 11:40, Squashme wrote: On May 3, 8:46 pm, JNugent wrote: On 03/05/2013 20:34, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 03/05/2013 11:53, CJB wrote: Labour MP Margaret Hodge accused of flooring cyclist with her car door while talking on mobile phone Cyclist clearly failing to use observation, anticipation & hazard awareness skills. He should have been charged with criminal damage to the car door. It *is* odd that cyclists expect sufficient clearance when being overtaken that they can perform a deviation in course as wide as they choose (the "wobble") and still not be hit even when they suddenly veer into the path of overtaking traffic, whilst on the other hand, they (or some of them at least) cannot be trusted to do a simple thing like stay a few feet away from the offside of a stationary passenger vehicle where disgorging of its occupants (with always at least one alighting from the offside) is easily prdictable and whose occupants can actually be seen (by those who can be bothered to look). I typically travel along highways faster than a cyclist would and could therefore claim that I need even more notice of a vehicle door being opened in my path, yet in probably something approaching a half million miles of driving in urban areas, I have never even come close to hitting a vehicle's opening or opened door, or an emerging vehicle occupant. It's a mystery that motorists manage to see cars, isn't it? This issue is nothing to do with "motorists" Oh, I see. It's the cyclists who open the doors is it? No, without excusing less than careful motorists, it's the psycholists who pass too close to cars, but squeal like stuck pigs when cars give them less than a complete road width of clearance. |
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Labour MP Margaret Hodge floors cyclist whilst talking on mobilephone
On 05/05/2013 13:49, Cassandra wrote:
On Sat, 04 May 2013 11:57:02 +0100, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 04/05/2013 11:38, Cassandra wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2013 20:46:40 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 03/05/2013 20:34, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 03/05/2013 11:53, CJB wrote: Labour MP Margaret Hodge accused of flooring cyclist with her car door while talking on mobile phone Cyclist clearly failing to use observation, anticipation & hazard awareness skills. He should have been charged with criminal damage to the car door. It *is* odd that cyclists expect sufficient clearance when being overtaken that they can perform a deviation in course as wide as they choose (the "wobble") and still not be hit even when they suddenly veer into the path of overtaking traffic, whilst on the other hand, they (or some of them at least) cannot be trusted to do a simple thing like stay a few feet away from the offside of a stationary passenger vehicle where disgorging of its occupants (with always at least one alighting from the offside) is easily prdictable and whose occupants can actually be seen (by those who can be bothered to look). I typically travel along highways faster than a cyclist would and could therefore claim that I need even more notice of a vehicle door being opened in my path, yet in probably something approaching a half million miles of driving in urban areas, I have never even come close to hitting a vehicle's opening or opened door, or an emerging vehicle occupant. I've never opened a car door into ther path of another road user because all my vehicles are fitted with a reflective piece of glass bolted to the door Or in other words, motorists use anticipation, observation & hazard awareness skills. and thats why they always complain their insurance is too high... Cyclists of course don't have insurance - unless they have a fridge treezer. -- Dave-Cyclists VORT Motorists pay £45 billion a year in extra taxes, specifically so they can use the roads. Only £8 billion of this is spent on roads. Q: Do you and your party support a new London-style bike plan for Cambridgeshire? A: No. This proposal amounts to theft from the people who pay to use roads and the benefit given to those who don’t. |
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Labour MP Margaret Hodge floors cyclist whilst talking on mobilephone
On 05/05/2013 15:43, Squashme wrote:
On May 4, 10:03 pm, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2013 21:52, Squashme wrote: On May 4, 3:46 pm, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2013 11:40, Squashme wrote: On May 3, 8:46 pm, JNugent wrote: On 03/05/2013 20:34, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 03/05/2013 11:53, CJB wrote: Labour MP Margaret Hodge accused of flooring cyclist with her car door while talking on mobile phone Cyclist clearly failing to use observation, anticipation & hazard awareness skills. He should have been charged with criminal damage to the car door. It *is* odd that cyclists expect sufficient clearance when being overtaken that they can perform a deviation in course as wide as they choose (the "wobble") and still not be hit even when they suddenly veer into the path of overtaking traffic, whilst on the other hand, they (or some of them at least) cannot be trusted to do a simple thing like stay a few feet away from the offside of a stationary passenger vehicle where disgorging of its occupants (with always at least one alighting from the offside) is easily prdictable and whose occupants can actually be seen (by those who can be bothered to look). I typically travel along highways faster than a cyclist would and could therefore claim that I need even more notice of a vehicle door being opened in my path, yet in probably something approaching a half million miles of driving in urban areas, I have never even come close to hitting a vehicle's opening or opened door, or an emerging vehicle occupant. It's a mystery that motorists manage to see cars, isn't it? This issue is nothing to do with "motorists" Oh, I see. It's the cyclists who open the doors is it? It is (some) cyclists who fail to see the doors, possibly - nay, probably - because they are not looking far enough ahead. It is (some) motorists who fail to see the cyclists, possibly - nay, probably - because they are not looking behind at all. The cyclists do not bring the doors with them. The motorists are surely not opening their doors expecting that they don't have to look behind, or are they? I'll type this slowly, so you understand. 33,000,000 motorists pass each other at relatively close distances and high speeds. The incidents involving hitting opened doors are infinitesimal. A much, much lower number of cyclists (they only account for 1% of journeys), traveling at much lower speeds, constantly whinge about being 'doored'. Who do you think might be to blame? Clue; it begins with 'cy' and ends in 'ts'. -- Dave - Cyclists VORC Bicycles are for Children. Like masturbation, something you should grow out of. There is something seriously sick and stunted about grown men who want to ride a bike." |
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Labour MP Margaret Hodge floors cyclist whilst talking on mobilephone
On 05/05/2013 13:53, Cassandra wrote:
On Sat, 04 May 2013 11:30:51 +0100, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 04/05/2013 11:28, Cassandra wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2013 20:34:26 +0100, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 03/05/2013 11:53, CJB wrote: Labour MP Margaret Hodge accused of flooring cyclist with her car door while talking on mobile phone Cyclist clearly failing to use observation, anticipation & hazard awareness skills. As you clearly have major psychological problems sharing the road with other road users, Only the sponging freeloaders on unsuitable vehicles - or cyclists as they are known. perhaps you should brush up on these basic motoring skills ? I don't have to. I have passed a test of competence, unlike cyclists. So have I and I'm a cyclist, so you are clearly wrong. If you are a cyclist, you are by default, an idiot. -- Dave - Cyclists VORC Bicycles are for Children. Like masturbation, something you should grow out of. There is something seriously sick and stunted about grown men who want to ride a bike." |
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Labour MP Margaret Hodge floors cyclist whilst talking on mobilephone
On 05/05/2013 13:49, Cassandra wrote:
On Sat, 04 May 2013 11:57:02 +0100, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 04/05/2013 11:38, Cassandra wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2013 20:46:40 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 03/05/2013 20:34, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 03/05/2013 11:53, CJB wrote: Labour MP Margaret Hodge accused of flooring cyclist with her car door while talking on mobile phone Cyclist clearly failing to use observation, anticipation & hazard awareness skills. He should have been charged with criminal damage to the car door. It *is* odd that cyclists expect sufficient clearance when being overtaken that they can perform a deviation in course as wide as they choose (the "wobble") and still not be hit even when they suddenly veer into the path of overtaking traffic, whilst on the other hand, they (or some of them at least) cannot be trusted to do a simple thing like stay a few feet away from the offside of a stationary passenger vehicle where disgorging of its occupants (with always at least one alighting from the offside) is easily prdictable and whose occupants can actually be seen (by those who can be bothered to look). I typically travel along highways faster than a cyclist would and could therefore claim that I need even more notice of a vehicle door being opened in my path, yet in probably something approaching a half million miles of driving in urban areas, I have never even come close to hitting a vehicle's opening or opened door, or an emerging vehicle occupant. I've never opened a car door into ther path of another road user because all my vehicles are fitted with a reflective piece of glass bolted to the door Or in other words, motorists use anticipation, observation & hazard awareness skills. and thats why they always complain their insurance is too high... You will hear no such complaint from me. |
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Labour MP Margaret Hodge floors cyclist whilst talking on mobilephone
On 05/05/2013 15:43, Squashme wrote:
On May 4, 10:03 pm, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2013 21:52, Squashme wrote: On May 4, 3:46 pm, JNugent wrote: On 04/05/2013 11:40, Squashme wrote: On May 3, 8:46 pm, JNugent wrote: On 03/05/2013 20:34, Dave- Cyclists VORC wrote: On 03/05/2013 11:53, CJB wrote: Labour MP Margaret Hodge accused of flooring cyclist with her car door while talking on mobile phone Cyclist clearly failing to use observation, anticipation & hazard awareness skills. He should have been charged with criminal damage to the car door. It *is* odd that cyclists expect sufficient clearance when being overtaken that they can perform a deviation in course as wide as they choose (the "wobble") and still not be hit even when they suddenly veer into the path of overtaking traffic, whilst on the other hand, they (or some of them at least) cannot be trusted to do a simple thing like stay a few feet away from the offside of a stationary passenger vehicle where disgorging of its occupants (with always at least one alighting from the offside) is easily prdictable and whose occupants can actually be seen (by those who can be bothered to look). I typically travel along highways faster than a cyclist would and could therefore claim that I need even more notice of a vehicle door being opened in my path, yet in probably something approaching a half million miles of driving in urban areas, I have never even come close to hitting a vehicle's opening or opened door, or an emerging vehicle occupant. It's a mystery that motorists manage to see cars, isn't it? This issue is nothing to do with "motorists" Oh, I see. It's the cyclists who open the doors is it? It is (some) cyclists who fail to see the doors, possibly - nay, probably - because they are not looking far enough ahead. It is (some) motorists who fail to see the cyclists, possibly - nay, probably - because they are not looking behind at all. The cyclists do not bring the doors with them. The motorists are surely not opening their doors expecting that they don't have to look behind, or are they? I've never even come close to hitting a door opened in front of me. And that's in something in the order, over more than four decades, of about a half-million urban miles. I'm not counting extra-urban distance at all. If I can achieve such a record (and it's nothing the slightest bit unusual), why can't you, or any other cyclist? |
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