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Old June 30th 16, 04:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Emanuel Berg
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David Scheidt writes:

They have a fairly large nummber of
positions, so they're usually close. The two
jaws are always parallel to each other.
Usage is to open them up, push the botton
that locks the sliding jaw in place, and
slide the jaws so they're wider than the
thing you're using them on. Put the fixed jaw
on one side, push the button and slide the
sliding jaw up. then squeze and turn or bend
or twist or whatever it is you need.
It's easier to do that than ot say it, and
with some practice you do it one handed.
The movement of the jaws as you close the
plier handles is small -- on the 250mm model,
it's about 6 or 8 mm, with a handle swing of
125 or 150 mm. so they can grip very tightly
if required, or normally tightly with less
hand force. I use mine for not only the
things I'd use an adjustable for, but also
for things like bending sheet metal.


I absolutely see the idea, only one concern
with the long arms and handles, they are
perhaps too big to fit in many situations?
This is another advantage with combination

spanners compared to adjustable wrenches and
this variety as well, that combination spanners
get smaller the smaller nut size, but the
adjustable stuff don't.

OK, so the master wrench doesn't get smaller
either, but it is more small to begin with

But I would buy this kind of tool if I saw it
in a shop. I'll look for it next time I visit
the industrial areas...

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Old June 30th 16, 04:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:48:06 +0000 (UTC), David Scheidt
wrote:

Emanuel Berg wrote:
:John B. writes:

:spanners but still be ready for everything.

: Professionals don't use them because they
: slip and they are larger and heavier than an
: equal size conventional wrench.

Depends on what professional you're talking about. Professonal
mechanics, working in a shop, don't often use them. Professionals who
have to carry their tools around often do.


At one time in my life I had people paying me to fix things out in a
jungle. I used fixed wrenches. Open end, Box end, Sockets. Those sort
of thing :-)

At an even earlier period my Uncle Sam hired me to fix airplanes and
loaned me a tool box. Same thing, Open end, Box end, Sockets. :-)

:And slower with less power (yeah, the slip).

Knipex Pliers Wrench!

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Old June 30th 16, 05:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Emanuel Berg
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John B. writes:

At one time in my life I had people paying me
to fix things out in a jungle. I used fixed
wrenches. Open end, Box end, Sockets.
Those sort of thing :-)

At an even earlier period my Uncle Sam hired
me to fix airplanes and loaned me a tool box.
Same thing, Open end, Box end, Sockets. :-)


Sockets and ratchets are indispensible for the
jungle box, for sure!

We should make a list! The box should be water
and bullet proof, as well.

It can't be too big either. There are no
"coolies" to follow you into the jungle this
day and age...

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Old July 1st 16, 12:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 06:19:00 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

John B. writes:

At one time in my life I had people paying me
to fix things out in a jungle. I used fixed
wrenches. Open end, Box end, Sockets.
Those sort of thing :-)

At an even earlier period my Uncle Sam hired
me to fix airplanes and loaned me a tool box.
Same thing, Open end, Box end, Sockets. :-)


Sockets and ratchets are indispensible for the
jungle box, for sure!

We should make a list! The box should be water
and bullet proof, as well.

It can't be too big either. There are no
"coolies" to follow you into the jungle this
day and age...


It has been a while but from memory my Air Force tool box was about
all you could pick up with one hand and walk away with. Maybe 25 - 30
Kg.

In the jungle we traveled by helicopter :-)

As for "coolies" oh yes there are. When I was working in Irian Jaya we
hired "laborers" for a dollar a day, all in, and usually had a
hundred, or so, on every job.

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Old July 1st 16, 02:26 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 8:46:59 PM UTC-4, David Scheidt wrote:
Emanuel Berg wrote:
avid Scheidt writes:

: And slower with less power (yeah, the slip).
:
: Knipex Pliers Wrench!

:... what about them? They are faster and
:slip less?

Yes.

:They look like polygrips but with a flat grip.
:Are the positions adapted to nut sizes?

They have a fairly large nummber of positions, so they're usually
close.
The two jaws are always parallel to each other. Usage is to open
them up, push the botton that locks the sliding jaw in place, and
slide the jaws so they're wider than the thing you're using them on.
Put the fixed jaw on one side, push the button and slide the sliding
jaw up. then squeze and turn or bend or twist or whatever it is you
need. It's easier to do that than ot say it, and with some practice
you do it one handed. The movement of the jaws as you close the plier
handles is small -- on the 250mm model, it's about 6 or 8 mm, with a
handle swing of 125 or 150 mm. so they can grip very tightly if required,
or normally tightly with less hand force. I use mine for not only the
things I'd use an adjustable for, but also for things like bending
sheet metal.

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expensive tool ....push button ? yik ! even lubed times gotta get a plier for unclamping the vice grips.

push button eyeyyehahhahhah....duh
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Old July 1st 16, 08:40 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2016-06-30, David Scheidt wrote:
Emanuel Berg wrote:
avid Scheidt writes:
:
: Knipex Pliers Wrench!

:... what about them? They are faster and
:slip less?

Yes.


They are thoroughly awesome tools. Try the littlest one.

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Old July 1st 16, 05:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Emanuel Berg
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John B. writes:

It can't be too big either. There are no
"coolies" to follow you into the jungle this
day and age...


It has been a while but from memory my Air
Force tool box was about all you could pick
up with one hand and walk away with. Maybe 25
- 30 Kg.


With such a tool box you can't walk very long.
Maybe 25 - 30 km.

As for "coolies" oh yes there are. When I was
working in Irian Jaya we hired "laborers" for
a dollar a day, all in, and usually had
a hundred, or so, on every job.


Not to forget the Sherpas in the Himalaya and
the Hunza tigers (Pakistani LAPs and HAPs) in
the Karakoram!

Referring to them as "coolies" tho might result
in some bad blood, and possibly some spilled as
well...

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Old July 1st 16, 05:25 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Emanuel Berg
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Gregory Sutter writes:

Knipex Pliers Wrench!

what about them? They are faster and
slip less?


Yes.


They are thoroughly awesome tools. Try the
littlest one.


I don't know if they are available in our
shops! Master wrenches aren't.
Combination spanners and adjustable ones are,
of course. Polygrips are, so I'll for
a polygrip, only with a flat grip!
Because I don't even know what they are called
here and Google translate doesn't help...

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Old July 1st 16, 07:25 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
David Scheidt
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Emanuel Berg wrote:
:Gregory Sutter writes:

: Knipex Pliers Wrench!
:
: what about them? They are faster and
: slip less?
:
: Yes.
:
: They are thoroughly awesome tools. Try the
: littlest one.

:I don't know if they are available in our
:shops! Master wrenches aren't.
:Combination spanners and adjustable ones are,
f course. Polygrips are, so I'll for
:a polygrip, only with a flat grip!
:Because I don't even know what they are called
:here and Google translate doesn't help...

Knipex are the only makers of such a tool.
They seem to call them 'tångnyckel' in swedesh.
Hansson & freife list them.

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Old July 1st 16, 09:35 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Emanuel Berg
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David Scheidt writes:

Knipex are the only makers of such a tool.
They seem to call them 'tångnyckel' in
swedesh. Hansson & freife list them.


OK, thank you. "TÃ¥ngnyckel" is "pair of pliers
key"

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