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My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
Remember who you are talking to Tim-
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota Tim McNamara wrote: In article , "Edward Dolan" wrote: I have been around bikes for the past 35 years and consider myself an expert on the subject of comfort. If you are young and physically fit you can more or less be comfortable on an upright for several hours at best, but even then you cannot be comfortable on them all day every day for weeks at a time. A recumbent is the ONLY way to go if you want TOTAL comfort. You give up some speed, especially on hills, but the comfort is more than worth it. This is actually a subject not even worth talking about as anyone who knows recumbents can tell you. Those of you presently on uprights who think you can live with them will find out that as you age that you in fact cannot. At that point, you will either give up cycling - or you will graduate to recumbents. Oh bull**** as usual, Edward. I find my uprights comfortable enough to ride up to 400 km in 24 hours. How much more comfortable do I need my bike to be? I'm 47. I know people in their 50s and 60s and even 70s who do this kind of riding on uprights quite comfortably. Once again you are overgeneralizing. What is true for you may not be true for others. If recumbents keep you riding I think that's great and more power to you. If I develop some kind of health problem which results in a choice between not riding and getting a recumbent, I'll get a recumbent. A few friends of mine ride recumbents because they just like 'em. Two friends of mine with cervical disk problems have gone this route quite happily because they don't aggravate their proximal and/or distal pain. I have a cervical disk problem of my own and who knows? I might be on a recumbent one of these days too. It's great that there are options! As far as the comfort question goes, for some reason most people I see on recumbents around here are middle aged guys who are 50-75 pounds overweight. I think I have spotted the problem with normal bikes being uncomfortable for them. I hear a lot of complaints about "recumbent butt" to make it clear that recumbents are no panacea. |
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If I can ride a bike for 4-6 hours I consider it comfortable. My
Lemond road bike and C;dale cross bike fit that bill fine. I have the bars only slightly below saddle, a Brooks seat and I;m fine. My MTB's are torture machines and cannot ride for more than an hour before neck shouler wrist pain start!! Edward Dolan wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Get a real bike and more people can fix it!!! Big Jim has a good point here, but he does not realize how much we recumbent cyclist insist on comfort, something that you can never get on an upright. When I ride an upright and it starts to cause me pain I get so freaking mad I could kill myself for being so stupid as to think an upright could ever be comfortable for more than half an hour. Screw all uprights all the way to hell and back! The g.d. things are nothing but torture racks. One thing is for sure, they were never designed for the human anatomy. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota Prisoner at War wrote: Okay, so I've been putting through my HP Velo SMGTe through all kinds of conditions around town for almost a year now. After all the potholes, rain, mud, grit, heat and cold I finally managed to really **** it up Sunday. A chainring got bent slightly, and eventually the chain itself broke and messed up some drivetrain components in the process! I only wonder how folks manage to take this model 'bent on them Third World tours if I'm having issues with it from simply riding around town! From the beginning the rear air shock suddenly stopped working. In another two weeks I managed to shred the top teflon tube somehow. Then the front disc brake rotor became permanently warped. Then the back ones. Did I mention the rear mudguard cracking in two? Sunday, about the whole drivetrain came undone: broken chain, a bent chainring, the idler spring clamp kaputt. Interestingly, the Thracian wheelset has held up just fine, AFAIK. Good God, but this is starting to be like dealing with your PC: "now what???" comes to mind more and more. And this seems to me recumbency's fatal flaw preventing it from wider adoptation: it's too ****ing complicated! And I can't believe how many of the nuts and bolts on my SMGTe do not seem to be off-the-shelf stuff you can get at a hardware store. Also, there should be a re-assembly instruction sheet for owners included with the bikes, since not all LBSes know or care about servicing 'bents. Recumbents are fun when they work, but mine is finally going to make a grease-monkey out of me! The HP Velo SMGTe is still the most comfortable 'bent around, but it requires a lot of attention, not like my other bikes which I just ride and take to the shop maybe once or twice a year. So far, I think I've spent $250 getting my 'bent serviced and refitted in one way or another. JFC!! I've now almost completely disassembled my 'bent, so as to clean out all the grit and grime and reinstall the chain, etc. Damn, this is going to be some education in bike mechanics! I'm really learning the hard way...on my own. I'm kind of looking forward to it, out of curiosity. Just wish I had the space to lay things down properly and leave them around. |
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Mark the biker wrote: The only thing I can add is that you,re the only guy I know who bought a bike made out of German cheese. I have all the confidence that your machine will be running smoothly before too loog. Happy new year That's my New Year's Resolution: to learn to fix my own bikes! BTW, it's only component failure here -- the frame itself is fine (and made in Taiwan). Happy Trails in '07! |
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Edward Dolan wrote:
"Gareth" wrote in message ... ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS! Can you guys take this off the R.B.M list please? What the **** for? There is nothing on RBM except a bunch of idiots blathering away about nothing at all. All cycling newsgroups are equally stupid. The sooner you learn this, the better. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota If your postings are any example, I'd have to agree. However, I should have been more specific. Please take this discussion off rec.bicycles.MARKETPLACE. It is creating a lot of noise, rivaling the guy posting about M.I.5. As for your remark about top posting, that is a religious issue, no need to shout. |
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:6dSdnZrjUMDqhA_YnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@prairiewave. com... "* * Chas" wrote in message ... "KERRY MONTGOMERY" wrote in message ink.net... snip I've been around bikes for the past 40 years, around this world for 56, and in fact can live with upright bicycles. Kerry Sniveling, dirty legged kid, 55 and 63 respectively. I tried riding a bent for a few minutes about 30 years ago and I just felt to [too] uncomfortable trying to keep it balanced. I can appreciate that for some people with physical limitations, a bent is the only way that they can enjoy cycling. That's great for them. Chas. It has nothing to do with physical limitations. It has everything to do with comfort. What an idiot you are! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota Uffda! Chill out dude and have some more lutefisk and lefse..... Go ride your 2 wheeled piece of lawn furniture in peace! Also, learn to follow a thread. My comment was a response to KERRY MONTGOMERY not YOU. Chas. |
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"* * Chas" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:6dSdnZrjUMDqhA_YnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@prairiewave. com... "* * Chas" wrote in message ... "KERRY MONTGOMERY" wrote in message ink.net... snip I've been around bikes for the past 40 years, around this world for 56, and in fact can live with upright bicycles. Kerry Sniveling, dirty legged kid, 55 and 63 respectively. I tried riding a bent for a few minutes about 30 years ago and I just felt to [too] uncomfortable trying to keep it balanced. I can appreciate that for some people with physical limitations, a bent is the only way that they can enjoy cycling. That's great for them. Chas. It has nothing to do with physical limitations. It has everything to do with comfort. What an idiot you are! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota Uffda! Chill out dude and have some more lutefisk and lefse..... Go ride your 2 wheeled piece of lawn furniture in peace! Also, learn to follow a thread. My comment was a response to KERRY MONTGOMERY not YOU. Chas. I do suffer from nasal mucus (bad sinuses), but my legs are dirty only because I never chose to shave 'em, even during the racing years. The only recumbent I've spent much time on is the one on this web page (it's the one with large red spoke protectors). I found it a trifle heavy and slow compared to the uprights I usually ride, but exceptionally easy to balance ;-) Kerry |
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"KERRY MONTGOMERY" wrote in message ink.net... "* * Chas" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message news:6dSdnZrjUMDqhA_YnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@prairiewave. com... "* * Chas" wrote in message ... "KERRY MONTGOMERY" wrote in message ink.net... snip I've been around bikes for the past 40 years, around this world for 56, and in fact can live with upright bicycles. Kerry Sniveling, dirty legged kid, 55 and 63 respectively. I tried riding a bent for a few minutes about 30 years ago and I just felt to [too] uncomfortable trying to keep it balanced. I can appreciate that for some people with physical limitations, a bent is the only way that they can enjoy cycling. That's great for them. Chas. It has nothing to do with physical limitations. It has everything to do with comfort. What an idiot you are! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota Uffda! Chill out dude and have some more lutefisk and lefse..... Go ride your 2 wheeled piece of lawn furniture in peace! Also, learn to follow a thread. My comment was a response to KERRY MONTGOMERY not YOU. Chas. I do suffer from nasal mucus (bad sinuses), but my legs are dirty only because I never chose to shave 'em, even during the racing years. The only recumbent I've spent much time on is the one on this web page (it's the one with large red spoke protectors). I found it a trifle heavy and slow compared to the uprights I usually ride, but exceptionally easy to balance ;-) Kerry The famous Irish racer, Patio Furniture..... ;-) Chas. |
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Prisoner at War wrote: Okay, so I've been putting through my HP Velo SMGTe through all kinds of conditions around town for almost a year now. After all the potholes, rain, mud, grit, heat and cold I finally managed to really **** it up Sunday. A chainring got bent slightly, and eventually the chain itself broke and messed up some drivetrain components in the process! I only wonder how folks manage to take this model 'bent on them Third World tours if I'm having issues with it from simply riding around town! From the beginning the rear air shock suddenly stopped working. In another two weeks I managed to shred the top teflon tube somehow. Then the front disc brake rotor became permanently warped. Then the back ones. Did I mention the rear mudguard cracking in two? Sunday, about the whole drivetrain came undone: broken chain, a bent chainring, the idler spring clamp kaputt. Interestingly, the Thracian wheelset has held up just fine, AFAIK. Gremlins. You've got gremlins on your ****. Something about bents attracts them. Good luck. |
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