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Feb 1 - DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
This was written by 32GO a while back and I was asked to repost this
on ARBR. A TROLL is trying to ruin ARBR. If you're new, you should know that we don't want you to respond to any negative non-recumbent writing by the TROLL or any TROLL, in the current thread you are reading. If you can't hold back, copy what the TROLL said to you, come to this thread, paste in what he said to you, and write your response here. That keeps the recumbent thread clean (except for the TROLL's moronic insult) and puts any additional crap here. ARBR can come alive if this is done. The above is the simple version (feel free to correct my mistakes here). Below is the fully outlined version written by 32GO. This will be reposted every 2-4 weeks to keep a fresh thread for the TROLL. Enjoy, Perry B Hey again folks - OKAY, GUYS! Many of us here have at one time or another, maybe two or three times in fact, tried to do his best to minimize the impact of the TROLL on the ARBR experience, either for himself or for the group as a whole. This may be as good a time as we're ever going to have, so let's - for the next two weeks or so - try it ALL TOGETHER NOW as a carefully coordinated group effort. Maybe instead of starting another obscure forum, we can make this one more useful. I think it's safe to say that most of the people who post or peek in on ARBR agree that this TROLL is our major problem, and that without him, most of us could get along quite nicely and this group may have a chance to be worth clicking into. DECLARATION: IT'S OUR NEWSGROUP, DAMMIT, NOT THE TROLL'S! SUGGESTION: Let's ALL (the real, nice people who honestly do want the newsgroup to work) make a concerted effort to use the forum just as if it wasn't preyed upon by the ogre for a short trial period. If we can work together within a serious, coordinated system, maybe we can make it practical to enjoy the forum in spite of the TROLL. Let's try these techniques suggested by Curtis (and dozens of others over the last few years) to see if it does make the newsgroup a bit more pleasant and somewhat more practical. Let's ALL follow the guidelines below thru the rest of this month (January 2007) and see - real world - how effective they really are at providing a bit of insulation from our worst annoyance. READING THE NEWSGROUP: Should be fairly simple. IF YOU USE A NEWSREADER: Killfile, filter or do whatever it takes to eliminate all messages from or mention of the TROLL. If you need help, ask for it in this thread or by emailing any 'volunteers' off-group. You may also find it advisable to suppress its muttonheaded minion (or mutant Mini-Me, maybe?) 'nget' aka 'Mike the Barker'. Since the former often posts via Cycling Forums (which assigns a kind of coded variable email address), you may need a trick, which one of our newsreader gurus (not me!) may also be able to provide. IF YOU USE A WEB BROWSER: Make a concerted effort to mentally tune out and ignore the TROLL's posts on the website you've been using for access; don't go into the threads he starts, and skip over his posts to other threads. If that's too annoying, use another gateway and archive that filters him out. Contrary to claims by the idiot itself, there are several alternatives to Google Groups (the most common web-based Usenet interface). You may prefer to use (TROLL-free!) Cycling Forum webpages, to read the group: http://www.cyclingforums.com/f167-al...recumbent.html [If that long line gets ginked, just go to their homepage, then to their own (in-house) recumbent forum, and click on the link near the top for real ARBR content.] Bookmark it when you get it. It isn't necessary to join in order to view messages posted there from ARBR, only to post via their gateway. FOR POSTING (EVERYONE!): 1. DO IT - THIS MONTH! As way too many folks have noted, one thing ARBR desperately needs is pertinent content. Post a message here, even if it's cross-posted at BROL. Ask a friend to post at ARBR. I'll follow this up by starting a legitimate on-topic thread. YOU'RE NEXT! If you can think of any interesting subject to discuss, please post it this month. 2. REPLY TO ON-TOPIC THREADS - If you have something to say, say it. But please don't copy the entire content of previous posts, ESPECIALLY if they contain off-topic rambling, if there is any reference to the TROLL or if any of its content is included, even if it seems to be on-topic, and even if you don't reply to it. The goal is to have a worthwhile discussion with ZERO input from the dreadful dimwit. 3. STAY ON TOPIC - Talk about 'bents, not the TROLL, not the newsgroup, and not the anonymous profane SPAMMER who has been off and on lately. Don't reply to any off-topic threads, or off-topic content in valid threads. Don't quote, repeat or include links to off-topic content, and don't comment about it. Mostly: DON'T FEED THE TROLL! What it says about you doesn't matter; just do your dead-level best to ignore its insults, its challenges, its taunts and its questions. For two weeks or so, please, everyone, just do your best to pretend the TROLL simply doesn't exist. 4. ISOLATE OFF-TOPIC CONTENT - If at the last ditch, you simply cannot refrain from off-topic content, put it in this thread if it's relevant to this specific effort, or if it's not, in the failsafe backup clearly labeled off- topic 'DON'T FEED THE TROLL!' thread. Don't worry about continuity; you can cut and paste anything to which you're replying from its original location and indicate quotes by using a right-pointing carat ('greater than' symbol), allocated to its original poster in text as needed. Even if you're relatively non-net-savvy, don't sweat it; just take your best shot at formatting whatever you have to say, without worrying about who's offended or amused by your style. 5. DON'T SNIPE OR EVEN GIVE ADVICE PUBLICLY TO OTHER POSTERS WHO SCREW UP - If you feel the need to ping another poster because he's done something that you feel is counterproductive, he's made a grammatical error or whatever, do it privately rather than by posting to the whole group. Part of the character of a good open forum is active, robust disagreement on pertinent topics, so that's good; please just don't get off into style or personality differences. And baduh-baduh-baduh... THAT'S ALL, FOLKS! Please print this out if it helps as a reminder. Email me privately if there's any way I can help, or even if you simply feel a strong urge to ream me out about this or anything - except the poetry of course. ;-) |
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Feb 1 - DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
For example, I hit reply to my previous response, deleted everything
for that response and at the bottom I pasted the crap the TROLL wrote to me in another thread. Now I write my response to what the TROLL said to me. The following is my response to the TROLL: TROLL, ALL IDIOTS ARE BOTTOM POSTERS! Enjoy, Perry B Minnesota On Apr 24 2006, 10:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS! Jeff, I followed Ed's link and did not find a definitive answer. In fact, they seem to talk about the original Usenet where top posting WAS considered in poor taste, but with todays newsreaders top posting is, to many, the perferred way in many instances such as this. Ed just has too much short-term memory loss and shouldn't be on Usenet in the first place, but he just doesn't get it. See my response to Jeff Grippe's message preceding yours. I would add that it is just so reasonable and logical to bottom post that any discussion of the issue is strictly for morons. We want the reader to follow with crystal clarity who is saying what and in the proper order. BothPerryand Jeff confuse Usenet, which has outside readers, with email, which has no outside readers. However, bothPerryand Jeff now at least include the complete previous message to which they are responding at the bottom of their messages, so that does mitigate somewhat the seriousness of their offense. What I can't stand are those who respond to a message and do not include any of the previous message, not on top where it belongs, and not even at the bottom where it does NOT belong. It is impossible to edit a previous message when you top post. Very many messages need to be edited as it is often quite pointless to post it complete when you are narrowing the discussion down to a few specific points. Elementary, my dear Watson! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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wrote in message ups.com... This was written by 32GO a while back and I was asked to repost this on ARBR. A TROLL is trying to ruin ARBR. If you're new, you should know that we don't want you to respond to any negative non-recumbent writing by the TROLL or any TROLL, in the current thread you are reading. If you can't hold back, copy what the TROLL said to you, come to this thread, paste in what he said to you, and write your response here. That keeps the recumbent thread clean (except for the TROLL's moronic insult) and puts any additional crap here. ARBR can come alive if this is done. The above is the simple version (feel free to correct my mistakes here). Below is the fully outlined version written by 32GO. This will be reposted every 2-4 weeks to keep a fresh thread for the TROLL. Nope, none of the above will work because I will not cooperate. Posts belong in the thread to which they are posted in response, not some other thread reserved for whatever. Perry Butter is a pip-squeak and is easily disposed of. His intellect is on a par with the high school kids that he supposedly instructs on the glories of the computer. What he knows about Usenet you could put in a thimble with room to spare. Any post that is in response and is not in its proper thread will cause me to give it an original post - with appropriate comments of course on the intelligence of the poster. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Feb 1 - DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
wrote in message oups.com... For example, I hit reply to my previous response, deleted everything for that response and at the bottom I pasted the crap the TROLL wrote to me in another thread. Now I write my response to what the TROLL said to me. The following is my response to the TROLL: TROLL, ALL IDIOTS ARE BOTTOM POSTERS! Since Perry Butler never says anything, who cares where he posts it. It will never be read by anyone in any event. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Feb 1 - DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
"Joel" joelw135atcomcast.net wrote in message . .. wrote: [...] This newsgroup has hit the bottom, if this continues it will be gone forever and the troll can have it all to himself. What a waste of bandwidth this has become. It is a real shame that a few no good rotten pains in the A*s could do this to this group. The sooner this newsgroup is gone, the better. It was ever nothing but a forum for assholes like yourself. Next time, make g.d. sure that any forum you care about has a moderator. If it doesn't, then screw it and all who contribute to it. How do folks get to be so g.d. stupid in the first place - aye, that is the question! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Feb 1 - DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
wrote in message ups.com... This was written by 32GO a while back and I was asked to repost this on ARBR. A TROLL is trying to ruin ARBR. That would be the SPAMMING TROLL, you freaking idiot! If you're new, you should know that we don't want you to respond to any negative non-recumbent writing by the TROLL or any TROLL, in the current thread you are reading. There is no one new here, just the same old idiots! If you can't hold back, copy what the TROLL said to you, come to this thread, paste in what he said to you, and write your response here. If you do that, I will give your message an original post with my response to it so that it will be highlighted. Nothing gets buried without my say-so. That keeps the recumbent thread clean (except for the TROLL's moronic insult) and puts any additional crap here. Insult is in the eye of the beholder - you freaking idiot! No one has ever yet been able to insult the Great Ed Dolan despite the many words tossed in my direction. Why is that? Greatness, of course! ARBR can come alive if this is done. ARBR is as dead as the proverbial door nail and nothing and no one can bring it back to life, nay, not even Perry Butler with his cockeyed schemes. The above is the simple version (feel free to correct my mistakes here). Below is the fully outlined version written by 32GO. This will be reposted every 2-4 weeks to keep a fresh thread for the TROLL. All of the above is for nothing. There is no one left on this group except for a few boobs like you. It always greatly amuses me when someone comes along to save someone when that someone is already dead. And so is this group, only it doesn't know it yet. If this group had ever meant anything to you, you would have stayed here and helped it along. But you scattered like all the others when the going got tough. Now that everyone is gone, you think you can bring them back? Why the Hell should they ever want to come back to an unmoderated group where anyone can say anything? If you would like to prove something to me, let us see what you can do about the SPAMMING TROLL? You are suppose to know all about computers and the Internet, being an instructor in these subjects. But you can't do one damn thing about the SPAMMING TROLL - can you? Now you began to see why I have such contempt for those like you who are unable to rectify the simplest of problems. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Feb 1 - DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
Joel,
Ignore the trolls and post on-topic stuff. The way to keep this group going is to post and respond to on-topic stuff. The trolls are going to keep doing what they do because it amuses them. They may get tired of it or they may not. Take 32GO's recommendations. Instead of posting something about how awful the group has become, post something on-topic. There are a whole bunch or regulars out there who are still reading the group and respond to on-topic posts. Jeff "Joel" joelw135atcomcast.net wrote in message . .. wrote: This was written by 32GO a while back and I was asked to repost this on ARBR. A TROLL is trying to ruin ARBR. If you're new, you should know that we don't want you to respond to any negative non-recumbent writing by the TROLL or any TROLL, in the current thread you are reading. If you can't hold back, copy what the TROLL said to you, come to this thread, paste in what he said to you, and write your response here. That keeps the recumbent thread clean (except for the TROLL's moronic insult) and puts any additional crap here. ARBR can come alive if this is done. The above is the simple version (feel free to correct my mistakes here). Below is the fully outlined version written by 32GO. This will be reposted every 2-4 weeks to keep a fresh thread for the TROLL. Enjoy, Perry B Hey again folks - OKAY, GUYS! Many of us here have at one time or another, maybe two or three times in fact, tried to do his best to minimize the impact of the TROLL on the ARBR experience, either for himself or for the group as a whole. This may be as good a time as we're ever going to have, so let's - for the next two weeks or so - try it ALL TOGETHER NOW as a carefully coordinated group effort. Maybe instead of starting another obscure forum, we can make this one more useful. I think it's safe to say that most of the people who post or peek in on ARBR agree that this TROLL is our major problem, and that without him, most of us could get along quite nicely and this group may have a chance to be worth clicking into. DECLARATION: IT'S OUR NEWSGROUP, DAMMIT, NOT THE TROLL'S! SUGGESTION: Let's ALL (the real, nice people who honestly do want the newsgroup to work) make a concerted effort to use the forum just as if it wasn't preyed upon by the ogre for a short trial period. If we can work together within a serious, coordinated system, maybe we can make it practical to enjoy the forum in spite of the TROLL. Let's try these techniques suggested by Curtis (and dozens of others over the last few years) to see if it does make the newsgroup a bit more pleasant and somewhat more practical. Let's ALL follow the guidelines below thru the rest of this month (January 2007) and see - real world - how effective they really are at providing a bit of insulation from our worst annoyance. READING THE NEWSGROUP: Should be fairly simple. IF YOU USE A NEWSREADER: Killfile, filter or do whatever it takes to eliminate all messages from or mention of the TROLL. If you need help, ask for it in this thread or by emailing any 'volunteers' off-group. You may also find it advisable to suppress its muttonheaded minion (or mutant Mini-Me, maybe?) 'nget' aka 'Mike the Barker'. Since the former often posts via Cycling Forums (which assigns a kind of coded variable email address), you may need a trick, which one of our newsreader gurus (not me!) may also be able to provide. IF YOU USE A WEB BROWSER: Make a concerted effort to mentally tune out and ignore the TROLL's posts on the website you've been using for access; don't go into the threads he starts, and skip over his posts to other threads. If that's too annoying, use another gateway and archive that filters him out. Contrary to claims by the idiot itself, there are several alternatives to Google Groups (the most common web-based Usenet interface). You may prefer to use (TROLL-free!) Cycling Forum webpages, to read the group: http://www.cyclingforums.com/f167-al...recumbent.html [If that long line gets ginked, just go to their homepage, then to their own (in-house) recumbent forum, and click on the link near the top for real ARBR content.] Bookmark it when you get it. It isn't necessary to join in order to view messages posted there from ARBR, only to post via their gateway. FOR POSTING (EVERYONE!): 1. DO IT - THIS MONTH! As way too many folks have noted, one thing ARBR desperately needs is pertinent content. Post a message here, even if it's cross-posted at BROL. Ask a friend to post at ARBR. I'll follow this up by starting a legitimate on-topic thread. YOU'RE NEXT! If you can think of any interesting subject to discuss, please post it this month. 2. REPLY TO ON-TOPIC THREADS - If you have something to say, say it. But please don't copy the entire content of previous posts, ESPECIALLY if they contain off-topic rambling, if there is any reference to the TROLL or if any of its content is included, even if it seems to be on-topic, and even if you don't reply to it. The goal is to have a worthwhile discussion with ZERO input from the dreadful dimwit. 3. STAY ON TOPIC - Talk about 'bents, not the TROLL, not the newsgroup, and not the anonymous profane SPAMMER who has been off and on lately. Don't reply to any off-topic threads, or off-topic content in valid threads. Don't quote, repeat or include links to off-topic content, and don't comment about it. Mostly: DON'T FEED THE TROLL! What it says about you doesn't matter; just do your dead-level best to ignore its insults, its challenges, its taunts and its questions. For two weeks or so, please, everyone, just do your best to pretend the TROLL simply doesn't exist. 4. ISOLATE OFF-TOPIC CONTENT - If at the last ditch, you simply cannot refrain from off-topic content, put it in this thread if it's relevant to this specific effort, or if it's not, in the failsafe backup clearly labeled off- topic 'DON'T FEED THE TROLL!' thread. Don't worry about continuity; you can cut and paste anything to which you're replying from its original location and indicate quotes by using a right-pointing carat ('greater than' symbol), allocated to its original poster in text as needed. Even if you're relatively non-net-savvy, don't sweat it; just take your best shot at formatting whatever you have to say, without worrying about who's offended or amused by your style. 5. DON'T SNIPE OR EVEN GIVE ADVICE PUBLICLY TO OTHER POSTERS WHO SCREW UP - If you feel the need to ping another poster because he's done something that you feel is counterproductive, he's made a grammatical error or whatever, do it privately rather than by posting to the whole group. Part of the character of a good open forum is active, robust disagreement on pertinent topics, so that's good; please just don't get off into style or personality differences. And baduh-baduh-baduh... THAT'S ALL, FOLKS! Please print this out if it helps as a reminder. Email me privately if there's any way I can help, or even if you simply feel a strong urge to ream me out about this or anything - except the poetry of course. ;-) This newsgroup has hit the bottom, if this continues it will be gone forever and the troll can have it all to himself. What a waste of bandwidth this has become. It is a real shame that a few no good rotten pains in the A*s could do this to this group. |
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"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message ... ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS! Joel, Ignore the trolls and post on-topic stuff. The way to keep this group going is to post and respond to on-topic stuff. The trolls are going to keep doing what they do because it amuses them. They may get tired of it or they may not. Take 32GO's recommendations. Instead of posting something about how awful the group has become, post something on-topic. There are a whole bunch or regulars out there who are still reading the group and respond to on-topic posts. Good advice! Go and sin no more! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Feb 1 - DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message ... ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS! Joel, Ignore the trolls and post on-topic stuff. The way to keep this group going is to post and respond to on-topic stuff. The trolls are going to keep doing what they do because it amuses them. They may get tired of it or they may not. Take 32GO's recommendations. Instead of posting something about how awful the group has become, post something on-topic. There are a whole bunch or regulars out there who are still reading the group and respond to on-topic posts. I do not require that others respond to any of my messages. In fact, it is better if no one does since there is not anyone left on this group who could say anything to me that I would take notice of. Aye, it is pleasure to be rid of all you idiots at long last. Now I can say whatever I want without any jabs from the peanut gallery. Who could ask for anything more? Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota PS. Jeff Grippe needs to learn how to post. Not only does he consistently top post, but he does not know how to edit a post either. He is doubly cursed because he is doubly stupid. |
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