Covid off subject

On 5/3/2021 7:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:

And remember... the bulk of the Covid sufferers caught the disease
under the gallant leadership of the Great God Donald.

I've shown you that less than 15,000 Americans dies directly or indirectly from covis-19.

You've NOT shown that, Tom. What you've shown is that you _believe_
that. Given that you have countless persistent delusions that others
have thoroughly documented and debunked, it's not surprising.

Nobody here is taking you seriously. Can't you tell that?

It's time to shut up.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Mon, 03 May 2021 19:49:34 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/3/2021 7:20 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 11:56:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:40:37 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:25:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I have shown that citation to you several times. If you are incapable of actually reading it I have no intentions of continuing to cite it for you to forget yet again.
Is it too difficult for you to provide the link again? I'm quite
incapable of finding such a link. In case you've forgotten the topic
of the moment, it's the link that backs up your claim of a 30% drop in
mortality rate compared to an unspecified baseline. Google can't find
it either:
https://www.google.com/search?q=30%25+FEWER+people+are+dying+from+all+ill nesses

Did you look at the photos of the mass burials currently underway in
India and South America? Here's the URL again in case you also can't
find that:
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+mass+graves&tbm=isch
Look at it while you try to rationalize your rubbish that Covid-19 is
not a problem, that there are no excess deaths, and that it's all a
plot by greedy politicians and corporations to deprive you of your
constitutional right to make a fool of yourself.

Also, I have bad news for you. I apparently survived the side effects
of the second Pfizer vaccination shot and will be around to provide
you with the attention you seem to crave.

We know that you are completely incapable of anything. You are too dumb to know that the "baseline" is the normal 2.8 million deaths in the USA each year which has been the case for a decade. Your brains are completely gone and since it would require the ability to think and manipulate the CDC site to discover the 30% drop in deaths for the year I guess that you can simply believe whatever you want to believe such as that there is no baseline of that it is made up.

After your pal Biden has told us that we have had 600,000+ additional total deaths in 2020, your response to the fact that the mortuary business not even keeping up with inflation was that the article was dated 2018 despite the fact that the factual tables were through 2020. Let's face it, you are simply incapable of understanding all of this complicated stuff. You want to be scared to death and shivering with fear so that you can bow down before your masters, the Democrats. So go right ahead, I couldn't care less.

From your postings I am of the mind that you are have a rapidly growing dementia. You've already told us that you cannot ride a bike. That you were an analog engineer but cannot understand electronics. I have no problems designing radio links for PG&E and the water company. I had no problems working with NASA which is normally far more paperwork that design ability.

So simply go away Jeff, I won't answer your ignorance anymore.

Hmmm.... base line? Yup. and of course that makes the numbers lost in
combat look like a very minor matter. After all the losses in Vietnam
only averaged a bit over 4,000 a year which viewed in the light of he
several million "normal" deaths annually in the U.S. latest figures
would show that Vietnam deaths amounted to some 0.16%. A mere nothing.


'One death is tragic but a million deaths is a statistic.'

Yup and Joe was right too. Read any newspaper :-)

(yes, I know that newspapers no longer exist but the term is easy to
spell and most adults still remember what they were :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Mon, 3 May 2021 21:26:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 5/3/2021 7:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:

And remember... the bulk of the Covid sufferers caught the disease
under the gallant leadership of the Great God Donald.

I've shown you that less than 15,000 Americans dies directly or indirectly from covis-19.

You've NOT shown that, Tom. What you've shown is that you _believe_
that. Given that you have countless persistent delusions that others
have thoroughly documented and debunked, it's not surprising.

Nobody here is taking you seriously. Can't you tell that?

It's time to shut up.

To paraphrase Francis Bacon, "He prefers to believe what he prefers to
be true."
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Mon, 3 May 2021 16:48:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 4:29:17 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/2/2021 6:03 PM, sms wrote:
On 5/2/2021 10:27 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:

snip

Tom sometimes I wish you catch COVID 19 so bad the it
would shut you up for a couple of months and kept you off
the bike for more than a year with no taste or smell. This
is not nice of course and I would go to confession if I
was religious.

Well of course I don't wish that anyone contract Covid-19,
but it's true that when those that eschew facts and logic
come down with it that if tends to help fix their belief
system.

Trump could have followed the advice of medical experts and
encouraged mask mandates and social distancing, and he could
have ordered sufficient quantities of vaccine early-on, and
lots more people would still be alive. Those individuals
that believe everything that he says would have followed.
The GOP governors would have had cover to make better
decisions.

It's not that some Republicans don't trust the vaccine, it's
that they worship a dope. But even that dope says to get
vaccinated.
A President might suggest but cannot command. Which is good.
we are not France. Nor China.

Governors both did and didn't over various time frames with
zero correlation. See also their economic destruction and
restraint of individual liberty- no clear positive effects
and we have 50 real life examples. Zero correlation.

You've just seen Scharf, John and Beatie denying reality as if they can change the world by saying the opposite.
Denying reality? You mean because the U.S. has a more Covid cases than
any country in the world, as of this morning just about 10% of the
U.S. population has caught the disease. actually 9.9878%. Or that
total deaths due to the disease is higher then any other country in
the world.

And remember... the bulk of the Covid sufferers caught the disease
under the gallant leadership of the Great God Donald.

I've shown you that less than 15,000 Americans dies directly or indirectly from covis-19. You are perfectly welcome to believe anything you like. As for 600,000+ covid deaths? I've shown you that funeral homes didn't even make enough money to meet inflation over the last 4 years. But again, reality if something you and your best butt buddy Jeff don't have any connection with. All those positive cases? Again I told you that I designed the tools to perform PCR testing with and that they cannot diagnose anything beyond the presence of a corona virus of some sort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT3IqZjT_9A

No Tom, you haven't shown that "less than 15,000 Americans dies
directly or indirectly from covis-19". You have danced around and
played with numbers and probably do believe your own delusions.

Unfortunately no one else does :-)

The CDC current information is 591,514 deaths due to the virus.
In California there are 61,965 deaths that is more deaths then 206 of
the 222 countries and locations reporting.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 5/3/2021 9:49 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 03 May 2021 19:49:34 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/3/2021 7:20 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 11:56:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:40:37 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:25:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I have shown that citation to you several times. If you are incapable of actually reading it I have no intentions of continuing to cite it for you to forget yet again.
Is it too difficult for you to provide the link again? I'm quite
incapable of finding such a link. In case you've forgotten the topic
of the moment, it's the link that backs up your claim of a 30% drop in
mortality rate compared to an unspecified baseline. Google can't find
it either:
https://www.google.com/search?q=30%25+FEWER+people+are+dying+from+all+ill nesses

Did you look at the photos of the mass burials currently underway in
India and South America? Here's the URL again in case you also can't
find that:
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+mass+graves&tbm=isch
Look at it while you try to rationalize your rubbish that Covid-19 is
not a problem, that there are no excess deaths, and that it's all a
plot by greedy politicians and corporations to deprive you of your
constitutional right to make a fool of yourself.

Also, I have bad news for you. I apparently survived the side effects
of the second Pfizer vaccination shot and will be around to provide
you with the attention you seem to crave.

We know that you are completely incapable of anything. You are too dumb to know that the "baseline" is the normal 2.8 million deaths in the USA each year which has been the case for a decade. Your brains are completely gone and since it would require the ability to think and manipulate the CDC site to discover the 30% drop in deaths for the year I guess that you can simply believe whatever you want to believe such as that there is no baseline of that it is made up.

After your pal Biden has told us that we have had 600,000+ additional total deaths in 2020, your response to the fact that the mortuary business not even keeping up with inflation was that the article was dated 2018 despite the fact that the factual tables were through 2020. Let's face it, you are simply incapable of understanding all of this complicated stuff. You want to be scared to death and shivering with fear so that you can bow down before your masters, the Democrats. So go right ahead, I couldn't care less.

From your postings I am of the mind that you are have a rapidly growing dementia. You've already told us that you cannot ride a bike. That you were an analog engineer but cannot understand electronics. I have no problems designing radio links for PG&E and the water company. I had no problems working with NASA which is normally far more paperwork that design ability.

So simply go away Jeff, I won't answer your ignorance anymore.

Hmmm.... base line? Yup. and of course that makes the numbers lost in
combat look like a very minor matter. After all the losses in Vietnam
only averaged a bit over 4,000 a year which viewed in the light of he
several million "normal" deaths annually in the U.S. latest figures
would show that Vietnam deaths amounted to some 0.16%. A mere nothing.


'One death is tragic but a million deaths is a statistic.'

Yup and Joe was right too. Read any newspaper :-)

(yes, I know that newspapers no longer exist but the term is easy to
spell and most adults still remember what they were :-)


No longer exist? I had the dead-tree versions of Sunday
Chicago Tribune, Epoch Times and Wall Street Journal at
coffee this morning.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 6:26:45 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2021 7:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:

And remember... the bulk of the Covid sufferers caught the disease
under the gallant leadership of the Great God Donald.

I've shown you that less than 15,000 Americans dies directly or indirectly from covis-19.
You've NOT shown that, Tom. What you've shown is that you _believe_
that. Given that you have countless persistent delusions that others
have thoroughly documented and debunked, it's not surprising.

Nobody here is taking you seriously. Can't you tell that?

It's time to shut up.

Frank, I have a younger brother just like you. When shown the CDC statistics he says, "That's just your opinion". So much for your college education and your poor students that were subjected to such utter ignorance.

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 8:39:29 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 16:48:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 4:29:17 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/2/2021 6:03 PM, sms wrote:
On 5/2/2021 10:27 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:

snip

Tom sometimes I wish you catch COVID 19 so bad the it
would shut you up for a couple of months and kept you off
the bike for more than a year with no taste or smell. This
is not nice of course and I would go to confession if I
was religious.

Well of course I don't wish that anyone contract Covid-19,
but it's true that when those that eschew facts and logic
come down with it that if tends to help fix their belief
system.

Trump could have followed the advice of medical experts and
encouraged mask mandates and social distancing, and he could
have ordered sufficient quantities of vaccine early-on, and
lots more people would still be alive. Those individuals
that believe everything that he says would have followed.
The GOP governors would have had cover to make better
decisions.

It's not that some Republicans don't trust the vaccine, it's
that they worship a dope. But even that dope says to get
vaccinated.
A President might suggest but cannot command. Which is good.
we are not France. Nor China.

Governors both did and didn't over various time frames with
zero correlation. See also their economic destruction and
restraint of individual liberty- no clear positive effects
and we have 50 real life examples. Zero correlation.

You've just seen Scharf, John and Beatie denying reality as if they can change the world by saying the opposite.
Denying reality? You mean because the U.S. has a more Covid cases than
any country in the world, as of this morning just about 10% of the
U.S. population has caught the disease. actually 9.9878%. Or that
total deaths due to the disease is higher then any other country in
the world.

And remember... the bulk of the Covid sufferers caught the disease
under the gallant leadership of the Great God Donald.

I've shown you that less than 15,000 Americans dies directly or indirectly from covis-19. You are perfectly welcome to believe anything you like. As for 600,000+ covid deaths? I've shown you that funeral homes didn't even make enough money to meet inflation over the last 4 years. But again, reality if something you and your best butt buddy Jeff don't have any connection with. All those positive cases? Again I told you that I designed the tools to perform PCR testing with and that they cannot diagnose anything beyond the presence of a corona virus of some sort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT3IqZjT_9A
No Tom, you haven't shown that "less than 15,000 Americans dies
directly or indirectly from covis-19". You have danced around and
played with numbers and probably do believe your own delusions.

Unfortunately no one else does :-)

The CDC current information is 591,514 deaths due to the virus.
In California there are 61,965 deaths that is more deaths then 206 of
the 222 countries and locations reporting.

John, I have shown you the actual CDC numbers. What you are citing is the numbers of deaths for which someone was paid for. I showed you that no one actually died because a 20% increase in deaths would be a 20% increase in funeral expenses and mortuaries are making NO MORE MONEY NOW than they did last year and the year before. This has been a scam and you have been suckered in by it. Everyone knows someone that has died and the largest cause of death of older American is pneumonia. I defy you to tell the difference between pneumonia and covid-19. Oh, that's right - if they say covid-19 they get $50,000. That is what makes the difference.

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 5:51:49 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/3/2021 9:49 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 03 May 2021 19:49:34 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/3/2021 7:20 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 11:56:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:40:37 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:25:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I have shown that citation to you several times. If you are incapable of actually reading it I have no intentions of continuing to cite it for you to forget yet again.
Is it too difficult for you to provide the link again? I'm quite
incapable of finding such a link. In case you've forgotten the topic
of the moment, it's the link that backs up your claim of a 30% drop in
mortality rate compared to an unspecified baseline. Google can't find
it either:
https://www.google.com/search?q=30%25+FEWER+people+are+dying+from+all+ill nesses

Did you look at the photos of the mass burials currently underway in
India and South America? Here's the URL again in case you also can't
find that:
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+mass+graves&tbm=isch
Look at it while you try to rationalize your rubbish that Covid-19 is
not a problem, that there are no excess deaths, and that it's all a
plot by greedy politicians and corporations to deprive you of your
constitutional right to make a fool of yourself.

Also, I have bad news for you. I apparently survived the side effects
of the second Pfizer vaccination shot and will be around to provide
you with the attention you seem to crave.

We know that you are completely incapable of anything. You are too dumb to know that the "baseline" is the normal 2.8 million deaths in the USA each year which has been the case for a decade. Your brains are completely gone and since it would require the ability to think and manipulate the CDC site to discover the 30% drop in deaths for the year I guess that you can simply believe whatever you want to believe such as that there is no baseline of that it is made up.

After your pal Biden has told us that we have had 600,000+ additional total deaths in 2020, your response to the fact that the mortuary business not even keeping up with inflation was that the article was dated 2018 despite the fact that the factual tables were through 2020. Let's face it, you are simply incapable of understanding all of this complicated stuff. You want to be scared to death and shivering with fear so that you can bow down before your masters, the Democrats. So go right ahead, I couldn't care less.

From your postings I am of the mind that you are have a rapidly growing dementia. You've already told us that you cannot ride a bike. That you were an analog engineer but cannot understand electronics. I have no problems designing radio links for PG&E and the water company. I had no problems working with NASA which is normally far more paperwork that design ability.

So simply go away Jeff, I won't answer your ignorance anymore.

Hmmm.... base line? Yup. and of course that makes the numbers lost in
combat look like a very minor matter. After all the losses in Vietnam
only averaged a bit over 4,000 a year which viewed in the light of he
several million "normal" deaths annually in the U.S. latest figures
would show that Vietnam deaths amounted to some 0.16%. A mere nothing..


'One death is tragic but a million deaths is a statistic.'

Yup and Joe was right too. Read any newspaper :-)

(yes, I know that newspapers no longer exist but the term is easy to
spell and most adults still remember what they were :-)

No longer exist? I had the dead-tree versions of Sunday
Chicago Tribune, Epoch Times and Wall Street Journal at
coffee this morning.

Virtually every major city newspaper has gone bankrupt or been reduced to a 5 page local news sheet. The ONLY thing supporting the Epoch Times is that they are right wing. Investors use the on-line version of the Wall Street Journal and any print versions are for old fogies' that will soon be gone. That isn't exactly a "stop the presses" moment.

On 5/4/2021 8:55 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 6:26:45 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2021 7:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:

And remember... the bulk of the Covid sufferers caught the disease
under the gallant leadership of the Great God Donald.

I've shown you that less than 15,000 Americans dies directly or indirectly from covis-19.
You've NOT shown that, Tom. What you've shown is that you _believe_
that. Given that you have countless persistent delusions that others
have thoroughly documented and debunked, it's not surprising.

Nobody here is taking you seriously. Can't you tell that?

It's time to shut up.

Frank, I have a younger brother just like you. When shown the CDC statistics he says, "That's just your opinion".

As usual, Tom, you've got things backwards. You have NOT shown
documentation for 90% of the nonsense you post. In fact, others have
repeatedly shown information, data and statistics, with links, that
disprove your rantings. Your default response is always to throw an
insult and change the subject.

We could examine our own statistics here. Jay, John, Jeff, "News," SMS,
Lou, Russell, Funkmaster and I and others have all labeled your spewings
as bull****. Andrew occasionally gives vague support on some peripheral
political issue, but just as often corrects you on technical points. Sir
Ridesalot urges everyone to just ignore you. The votes are firmly
against you.

Look, we understand you have mental problems. You recognize that too,
but you don't understand how bad they are, or how they're making you look.

I believe John posted the quotation “Tis better to be silent and thought
a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.�

You have totally removed all doubt. It's time to be silent.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 8:13:36 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/4/2021 8:55 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 6:26:45 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/3/2021 7:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:

And remember... the bulk of the Covid sufferers caught the disease
under the gallant leadership of the Great God Donald.

I've shown you that less than 15,000 Americans dies directly or indirectly from covis-19.
You've NOT shown that, Tom. What you've shown is that you _believe_
that. Given that you have countless persistent delusions that others
have thoroughly documented and debunked, it's not surprising.

Nobody here is taking you seriously. Can't you tell that?

It's time to shut up.

Frank, I have a younger brother just like you. When shown the CDC statistics he says, "That's just your opinion".
As usual, Tom, you've got things backwards. You have NOT shown
documentation for 90% of the nonsense you post. In fact, others have
repeatedly shown information, data and statistics, with links, that
disprove your rantings. Your default response is always to throw an
insult and change the subject.

We could examine our own statistics here. Jay, John, Jeff, "News," SMS,
Lou, Russell, Funkmaster and I and others have all labeled your spewings
as bull****. Andrew occasionally gives vague support on some peripheral
political issue, but just as often corrects you on technical points. Sir
Ridesalot urges everyone to just ignore you. The votes are firmly
against you.

Look, we understand you have mental problems. You recognize that too,
but you don't understand how bad they are, or how they're making you look..

I believe John posted the quotation “Tis better to be silent and thought
a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.�

You have totally removed all doubt. It's time to be silent.

Why do you think that passing around your stupid bull**** is achieving anything? I showed the CDC statistics from their own page. If you don't believe that take it up with them. I showed that there has been NO increase in burials or cremations. Even though the cost of burials and cremations is skyrocketing, the income of these businesses for the last three years hasn't kept up with the inflation rate. That means that there has been NO increase in deaths. So explain how that adds up to an extra 20% of additional deaths above normal.

The problem with you is that like all pansies you have to have someone telling you to bend over. You are incapable of thinking for yourself. Or maybe bending over is your own idea. My cousin, an absolutely beautiful woman just committed suicide hanging herself in her bathroom because she could not take the isolation from her family and her religion. This is exactly the sort of thing you applaud you piece of ****.