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water bottles,helmets
While watching the TdF, the riders are constantly throwing their empty water
bottles to the side of the road. I am just curious, what happens to them? Is there a massive clean up effort by the tour organizers ( are they recycled?) or does the local citizenry get to keep them? Also, when the Tour gets to the mountains, the rider are permitted to remove their helmets, last year I saw a guy just throw it to the side of the road. Would the team car come and get them or are they just an expendable item? You can tell that I have too much time on my hands, but any intelligent answers would be appreciated. |
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At Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:56:44 GMT, message
was posted by "Mark" , including some, all or none of the following: While watching the TdF, the riders are constantly throwing their empty water bottles to the side of the road. I am just curious, what happens to them? They are snaffled by souvenir-hungry fans. Also, when the Tour gets to the mountains, the rider are permitted to remove their helmets, Not any more. Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound |
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Just curious - when the tour is over do they throw thier bikes over to
the side of the road?!? I'd like to catch one of them! Ken |
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On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:56:44 +0000, Mark wrote:
Also, when the Tour gets to the mountains, the rider are permitted to remove their helmets, last year I saw a guy just throw it to the side of the road. from dummies.com To reduce or eliminate deaths from crashes, every rider in the Tour must now wear a helmet during every stage of the race, including time trials. At their own risk, cyclists may remove their helmets during the final climb to the summit if the climb is at least 5 kilometers (3.1 miles) long. A Tour course marker designates the point on the course where cyclists can remove their helmets. Removal of helmets on mountain stages is never allowed before the start of a climb. I'm sure a team member makes sure the helmet makes it home. |
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At Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:47:22 GMT, message
ain was posted by maxo , including some, all or none of the following: To reduce or eliminate deaths from crashes, every rider in the Tour must now wear a helmet during every stage of the race, including time trials. You gotta love that! There have already been more deaths in the pro cadre in the first five years of this decade than in any previous decade on record! Of course, a fall onto a flat surface from 1.5m with your head disconnected from your body is always going to be fatal... Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound |
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
You gotta love that! There have already been more deaths in the pro cadre in the first five years of this decade than in any previous decade on record! I'm not sure where you're going with that, and I certainly don't want to start a helmet/no helmet debate; but the reason they instituted the rule was that Andrei Kivilev was not wearing a helmet when he died from head injuries during the 2003 Paris-Nice. They changed the rules for time-trial helmets later that same year. Anyone remember the T-Mobile rider (I think it was Matthias Kessler) who crashed into a fence post during a descent in last year's tour? That was frightening. The pros go so freaking fast and take so many amazing risks that I'm not qualified to draw conclusions about what constitutes a reasonable precaution in their world. -JR |
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What's funny: for years TdF photos have depicted bare heads. But this
year, go to the official site...their motif photo is a rainbow of h*lmets. --Karen M. left my TdF bottle in my sister's car |
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SlowRider wrote: Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: You gotta love that! There have already been more deaths in the pro cadre in the first five years of this decade than in any previous decade on record! I'm not sure where you're going with that, and I certainly don't want to start a helmet/no helmet debate; but the reason they instituted the rule was that Andrei Kivilev was not wearing a helmet when he died from head injuries during the 2003 Paris-Nice. They changed the rules for time-trial helmets later that same year. Anyone remember the T-Mobile rider (I think it was Matthias Kessler) who crashed into a fence post during a descent in last year's tour? That was frightening. The pros go so freaking fast and take so many amazing risks that I'm not qualified to draw conclusions about what constitutes a reasonable precaution in their world. The tour has been raced for nearly 100 years. In all that time and in all those millions of miles, there have been something like three deaths from _any_ cause, including amphetamine-induced heart failure. And there's great doubt that Kivilev's death would have been prevented by a helmet. A high speed mountain descent ending with an impact with a pillar sounds far worse than the 14 mph that bike helmets are certified for. The helmet rule sounds to me like more backdoor politicking by helmet manufacturers. "My gosh, we can't let people think you can survive without a foam hat! It will hurt sales!" - Frank Krygowski |
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On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:56:44 +0000, Mark wrote:
While watching the TdF, the riders are constantly throwing their empty water bottles to the side of the road. I am just curious, what happens to them? The spectators fight over them. Also, when the Tour gets to the mountains, the rider are permitted to remove their helmets, Not this year. The riders train specifically for hot conditions which is what saves them from the heat exhaustion that helmets would bring on in the normal rider. Mike |
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I don't wear a helmet, so I don't know about the tech, the "best" is
only rated for 14 mph?!? Thats hardly riding. I do more than that on just a steady cruise. Seems like they need to design some better helmets for those who wear them. Ken |
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