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Tom Kunich wrote:
Unless, of course, you're a moronic idiot. Schwarzsoft bug report: Bot didn't use gay in an insult. Expected output: gay moronic idiot or gay moronic liberal nazi. |
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On Mar 28, 2:53*am, Howard Kveck wrote:
In article , *Bill C wrote: On Mar 27, 2:49*am, Howard Kveck wrote: *There was NO thread hijack. TK started a thread on liberal fascism, everyone jumped into bashing him. * *Yeah, because he was wrong, you know? His definition of fascism is wrong (and it appears you agree with it). *Never said a word on whether he was right or wrong, just that there was s group bashing in progress. granted he brings a LOT of that on himself. * *But you join in with what you thought was an example that fit with his proposition. That is what it looks like to me. There are a lot of them out there. We both live in States that practice quite a bit of it. *Once again your claim is that NONE of the national organizations know anything about these activities, don't fund any of them, provide no training, and there's no overlap between the folks leading the national groups and the "direct action" groups. That's demonstrably false, and has been demostrated numerous times. *There was serious talk of bringing either tax, or legal actions against PETA, and HSUS because both were found to be channelling funds to ALF/ELF PETA admitted it and did the, "It's only for non-violent promotional use". bit and, after massive pressure, got off. * *Uh, maybe they "got off" because the case didn't stand the level of scrutiny that was needed. Isn't that a principle that you talk about a lot in here in doping? I'm not going back and dig it up again. They got off because a couple of House folks, and a Senator, supportive of them, raised holy hell with everyone who tried looking into it. The eveidence was actaully in their tax return, along with other records. There was a solid case. the info is out there. They got off for the same reason KBR keeps getting paid, friends in government. Seen the new stuff on KBR's faulty water treatment poisoning and severely injuring US troops? *I admit, as you do, to being WAY more stubborn and offensive with you becuase you take the sanctity position for the left. You critically evaluate the left the way Malkin and Coulter evaluate the right. Most of the folks, left, or right don't do that. * *You're saying I'm as bad as Malkin and Coulter? I find that to be absurd. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * tanx, * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Howard * * * * * * * * * * * * Whatever happened to * * * * * * * * * * * * Leon Trotsky? * * * * * * * * * * * * He got an icepick * * * * * * * * * * * * That made his ears burn. * * * * * * * * * * *remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bill C |
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On Mar 28, 2:53*am, Howard Kveck wrote:
snipped And a lot of that is because if I haven't responded vigorously enough to whatever you're demanding to know, you jump to the most extreme conclusion. Kind of like you do with groups like MoveOn or the Obama campaign. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * tanx, * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Howard * * * * * * * * * * * * Whatever happened to * * * * * * * * * * * * Leon Trotsky? * * * * * * * * * * * * He got an icepick * * * * * * * * * * * * That made his ears burn. * * * * * * * * * * *remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2003/03/14/war/ The antiwar movement prepares to escalate The day the war starts, organizers vow to shut down financial districts -- and even infiltrate a key U.S. Air Force base. By Michelle Goldberg Pages 1 2 Share Mar 14, 2003 | If bombs start falling on Iraq, peace activists say, expect insurgency at home. http://bayareadirectaction.wordpress.com/ http://tinyurl.com/2qzmcf Howard there's a ton more out there, you know it too, but I'll give you the point that the most disruptive seem to have turned on MoveOn, despite taking their money. I also have a problem with denial of access, intimidation, harrassment, etc...being called "non-violent" and still supported, and financed, by MoveOn. When they stop violating the rights of other Americans, and supporting that, then I'll get off their case. The only difference between them and Focus on the Family and others on the right is which guarantees and freedoms get violated. I'm also going to stop criticising the folks on the right to level the playing field with you. Is there anyone on the right, writing from the right, etc... that you don't think is a nutcase? You've also repeatedly lumped everyone who voted for Bush, or is vaguely center, or right together with the nutjobs pretty regularly. The vast right wing, corporate, media monster seems to be as much a staple of your arguments as my problems with MoveOn and those folks. I'm willing to admit that we probably both paint with too wide a brush, how about you? Bill C |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
"Fred Fredburger" wrote in message . .. Tom Kunich wrote: The problem is that although none of us like McCain, it looks like we must vote for him to prevent either Obama or Hillary from getting in and seeing the end of our country as we know it. I have no idea how many times I've heard you say say something about "the end of our country as we know it." It must have happened 20 times by now. Or else you're just a drama queen. Then since all of these conversations are stored you ought to be able to find me saying that before. Unless, of course, you're a moronic idiot. Or unless I don't care that you've gone senile. Or unless I've come to know that you wont recognize the truth even when it's right in front of you. Those are definite possibilities. You're up to "Delusional, senile drama queen". That trumps your overdone and lame "moronic idiot". |
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On Mar 27, 8:20 am, Donald Munro wrote:
Paul G. wrote: (I lived in Marin during my bike racing phase. *I* was the conservative, compared with "Wild Man" Gary Fisher, Joe Breeze, et al. I never expected to encounter NASCAR fans and people extolling the virtues of slavery in a bike racing forum! ) -Paul If we didn't have a slave we wouldn't get any afternoon training rides. Those aren't slaves, they're domestiques. Well, except for SLAVE OF THE STATE, who is by definition, a -er- slave. It's simple, really. Evil people are liberals. Good people are conservatives. Don't you mean evil people are gay, liberal, impotent nazis. Impotent gays? I believe it's Bob Dole and NASCAR that advertise Viagra. No, it's conservatives who are impotent. Think about it- "conservative sex". That concept is enough to make anyone go limp. No wonder they can't get it up. Personally, I became a liberal primarily for the great sex. -Paul |
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On Mar 27, 3:16 pm, (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
Someone anonymous claiming to be Paul G. writes; Thanks for pointing that out. I think I understand it now. As Mr. Baldwin so eloquently put it: " Next [option], simply free the slaves. Without the necessary social skills to assimilate into a predominantly white culture, many freeman would have surely suffered great hardship and probable genocide. Again this option was not chosen by the anti-abolitionists for humanitarian reasons." Just can't stop quoting me out of context can you Paul ? Have I gotten under skin Paul? Hmmnnn... I don't think you know what "out of context" means- that's not out of context. And why would anyone think you're getting under *my* skin? There's a distinct shrillness to your post that indicates it's the other way around. I'm having fun with this. You've yet to back a single word of your spew with one historically _and_ period correct fact or quote. Maybe in your fantasy world. It's a fact that slavery was an abomination, and slave owners weren't motivated by humanitarian concerns- they were motivated by greed. Those truths are timeless. PS - No self-described Liberal would ever drive a Ford Explorer you fake. Hell, that's nothing. I've also got a diesel bulldozer. No slaves, though. Like I said, I became a liberal for the great sex. ;-) -Paul |
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On Mar 27, 5:47 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"RonSonic" wrote in message ... I feel blessed to live in a country where conservatives and libertarians are frequently mistaken for one another. It's a mixed blessing in that they are often forced to make common cause, but good that they can. The problem is that although none of us like McCain, it looks like we must vote for him to prevent either Obama or Hillary from getting in and seeing the end of our country as we know it. Actually I liked the old John McCain. Unfortunately he had to drink the koolaid to get the Republican't nomination. He's now saying he's going to cut taxes and increase spending, the things that got us into this mess. The old John McCain was a balanced budget type, like Bill Clinton. Personally, I can't wait to see the end of our country as we now know it. Just imagine what you'd be saying if everything were exactly the same, but the president was named Al Gore. 9/11, all Gore sitting on his ass as the attack continues, the mess in Iraq, the mess in Afghanistan, Bin Laden alive and relaxing in his safe haven, people drowning in New Orleans while Al Gore vacations, $4/gallon gas, the housing disaster, multiple recessions, the dollar worth half what it was when Al Gore took office, etc etc. The Republican'ts can't get anything right. -Paul |
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On Mar 27, 7:35*pm, Fred Fredburger
wrote: SLAVE of THE STATE wrote: The so-called "liberal" in modern pop politics lingo is nothing of the kind. *They are just statists, pure, simple, and stoopid as it is. Right. Strangely, however, that's also what conservatives are. "Memo to Jonah Goldberg and National Review: free means free. Regulation means regulation, whether it is Robert Reich or Jack Kemp who write the regulations." http://www.lewrockwell.com/dieteman/dieteman31.html http://www.fahayek.org/index.php?opt...ask=view&id=46 In a two party system, such as in the USA, LIBERAL (not "liberals" in retarded pop parlance) are more or less forced to make hay in the opposition party. "Opposition" in the USA for the last century has basically meant coalescing to "Republican" because the ideological and political dominance came from democrats, who are essentially socialists. The opposition has been focused on inhibiting the drift to statism: conservatives oppose because they conserve what already exists; LIBERALS because they believe in freedom. A LIBERAL calling a truce with a conservative for the basic point of a common enemy (democrat-socialist) is really a case of an odd relationship, but one born of political reality. It so happens that "Republicans" are a far more diverse coalition due to the fact of political reality forcing the coalescence of disparate interests into one opposition, since political realities in democracies become, unfortunately, binary in nature. So as it goes, the democrat party is less diverse -- it represents monolithic statism with only minor detailed differences within. Heck, look at the democrats whacked prez primary selection procedu it is the height of irony that "democrats" have no confidence in democracy. NObama '08!!!!! |
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On Mar 27, 5:35*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Michael Baldwin" wrote in message ... PS - No self-described Liberal would ever drive a Ford Explorer you fake. Around here you can tell the Liberals - they're the one's driving the Mercedes-Benz M-Class, BMW X5, Cadillac Escalades, Ford Expeditions and Chevy Suburbans. They're the one's complaining about $100 fillups and trying to get gas prices down as low as possible. Oh, yeah, and they're the one's telling the rest of us how corrupt we are. You forgot about complaints of global warming coming out the window of the SUV. |
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