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Old July 8th 19, 12:29 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Chalo
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Frank Krygowski wrote:
I have several friends who are cops or ex-cops. Each of them is dedicated to
doing well at a very difficult job - a job I'd never, ever want to tackle.


Yeah... **** those guys. Bad cops drove away good cops a long time ago. What's left is either criminals under color of authority, or those who'll acquiesce to/support the criminals.
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Old July 8th 19, 02:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 5:31:35 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:


Tell us all: Since my home, which is paid for, is now worth $700,000, Why would I need to cash in my investments to move elsewhere?


Because you constantly whine here about the horrors of the area near you, and
blame it all on people whose views are not as nutty as yours.

If you like it there, quit whining about how terrible it is. If you don't like it
there, move.

- Frank Krygowski
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Old July 8th 19, 02:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 7:19:28 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/6/2019 5:34 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 11:21:35 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 10:08:09 AM UTC+1, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:53:04 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:14:53 AM UTC-7, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 8:53:13 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
See https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...lands-anti-fa/ about the police-assisted fascisti who call themselves Anti-Fa in Portland beating up a gay Asian journalist.

Andre Jute
Disgusted at the Antifa's racism

Still hoping for another krystalnacht when your "proud boys" are allowed to run amok with impunity, eh Andre? Or maybe you would just like to see people passively sit and 'turn the other cheek' like when Dylan Roof performed his act of heroism on that unsuspecting elder black prayer circle. Face it, you're just ****ed because people are actively fighting back against your attempts at suppression/oppression. Ngo was an active supporter of the 'proud boys', and had published Islamophobic screeds. He may be gay and asian, but you know you're actually being quite dishonest when you suggested he was targeted for that. Meanwhile, the rants on your side of "jews will not replace us" go completely unmentioned by you.

Zencycle
Disgusted at Jute's hypocrisy.

The Antifa are the SAME people as Hitler's brownshirts and they should be treated as such. I would have had a different reaction than some journalist who was doing nothing but reporting what was going on.

Believe me Zen - if you were to make your comments to my face you would only do it once.

As you say, I do not live in the U.S. and haven't for some years so I
have never heard of the "Antifa"so I had to read up on them on the Net
and I read:

The Antifa movement is a conglomeration of left-wing autonomous,
militant anti-fascist groups in the United States... Activists
involved in the movement tend to be anti-capitalists and subscribe to
a range of ideologies, typically on the left. They include anarchists,
socialists and communists...

This hardly sounds like the Brownshirts, actual name "The
Sturmabteilung", literally Storm Detachment, was the Nazi Party's
original paramilitary.Its primary purposes were providing protection
for Nazi rallies and assemblies, disrupting the meetings of opposing
parties, especially the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), and
intimidating Romani, trade unionists, and, especially, Jews.

It appears that you have gotten it wrong (yet again) as the Antifa are
described as being very Left Wing... anarchists, socialists and
communists.

While the Brownshirts seem to have been exactly the opposite and
attacked communists and trade unions and other such socialist
organizations.

--

Cheers,

John B.

You're such a dim dingbat, Slow Johnny. I've already explained above why Ernst Roehm's Brownshirts were far left-wingers. But let me spell it out for you. Hitler, a socialist and leader of the National Socialist or NaZi party for short, killed Roehm and the rest of the Brownshirt's leadership because the Army, whose support Hitler required to institute an elected dictatorship, demanded stability, and Roehm wanted his revolution to continue, that is, he was well to the left of Hitler who was courting the Prussian Establishment, which was essentially the Army. There was also an element of sexual politics, just as there is today, in that the Junkers (that's about 90% the same thing as the German Establishment, and the Army High Command too) found Roehm's homosexuality disgusting. Basically, Stalin had Trotsky killed (well, besides the fact that Trotsky knew how little Lenin valued Stalin, so that Stalin couldn't rewrite history to move himself centrestage during the Bolshevik Revolu

tion until Trotsky and a whole bunch of other Old Bolsheviks were dead) for the same reason, that Trotsky believed in everlasting revolution and Stalin was in power and consolidating and expanding his power, and did want any sideshow bovvers right then.

An exercise you may want to consider it to consider whether the "crowdsourced" information on Wikipedia isn't written by Klantifa and its sympathisers. You might also want to consider why Hitler, an explicit socialist, is called a "right-winger", and by whom, and what they have to gain, when that other massmurdering socialist thug, Stalin, to the Left is Dear Uncle Joe. Everything gets easier to understand once you go past the labels biased people have laid on them, and see them both as left-wing totalitarian thugs and murderers.

Andre Jute
Prayer for today: Oh, oh woe, save me from jumped-up mechanics with a link to Google!


In an almost continuous string ALL Snowflakes say the same thing - that President Trump is a fascist despite the fact that fascism is the inevitable result of socialism and the necessity for a socialist government to obtain total control of their countries.

While the socialists here are crying for more power over the people they are calling President Trump a fascist for removing progressively more and more government controls.

As you say, the morons do not know any history and they do not even know the actual definition of the terms they do easily throw about.


When asked, "What is Fascism?" Mussolini, noted expert on
the subject, replied, "Everything inside the State. Nothing
outside the State. Nothing against the State."

Sounds much like Bernie or Stalin or Marx himself to me.

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www.yellowjersey.org/
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Without naming them, because I've forgotten their names as irrelevant people, a belated toast to several now-gone posters to this forum who believed that Mussolini's corporatism, so well encapsulated above, meant that his government was of and for the corporations, the industrialists, the business bosses

Andre Jute
Heh-heh
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Old July 8th 19, 02:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_2_]
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On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 7:29:25 PM UTC-4, Chalo wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:
I have several friends who are cops or ex-cops. Each of them is dedicated to
doing well at a very difficult job - a job I'd never, ever want to tackle.


Yeah... **** those guys. Bad cops drove away good cops a long time ago. What's left is either criminals under color of authority, or those who'll acquiesce to/support the criminals.


Not where I live.

Here's a "good cop" story, from a couple decades ago. When I was teaching, I
often did my grading of big projects very late at night. So one night, I was
in my study overlooking our driveway at about 2 AM, working away.

Suddenly there was a knock on the door. I was startled, of course. I went to the
door and saw a policewoman on the porch, and her patrolman partner standing
behind her on the drive about ten feet back, apparently to cover her if there
had been a problem.

I said "Can I help you??" She said "Is everything OK in there?" I said yes, and
asked why.

She said "We've noticed that when you're working late, the living room lights
are usually off. But they're on tonight. We just wanted to make sure."

I think that was good work. I have no problem with these cops. They wave to me
when I ride past, they've helped me on volunteer projects. They're good people.

Sorry if it's different down there.

- Frank Krygowski
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Old July 8th 19, 02:51 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 12:29:25 AM UTC+1, Chalo wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:
I have several friends who are cops or ex-cops. Each of them is dedicated to
doing well at a very difficult job - a job I'd never, ever want to tackle.


Much as I hate to agree with Franki-boy... when he rarely gets something right, he is entitled to agreement.

Yeah... **** those guys. Bad cops drove away good cops a long time ago. What's left is either criminals under color of authority, or those who'll acquiesce to/support the criminals.


The police here are friendly and courteous and very helpful. I think it has to do with the fact they are unarmed and with the absence of guns in the hands of the public (the vast majority of crims don't have guns either). The police don't expect violence. I've noticed the same thing in that handful of *very* civilised countries in the world where the police are unarmed.

Contrast a cop in Virginia who stopped me for an speeding offence -- which was binned in the DA's office anyway because I was on a diplomatic passport -- with an unholstered weapon.

Andre Jute
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Old July 8th 19, 02:52 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 08:14:51 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:



Can you tell us why the hospital and his doctors reported a brain
hemorrhage and you're attempting to make as little of that as possible?
Because he isn't in the hospital NOW it was perfectly OK in your book?


Similar to a lot of injuries, brain heamorrhages come in degrees and they
range from inattributable to attributable. wise medical profesinals often
talk about "likely related to".

If he is from out of town, then he has to be guilty of something.

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Old July 8th 19, 03:03 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 14:31:32 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 10:23:27 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:

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Tom, you need to A) get someone to recognize your (undocumented)
brilliance and give you a good job; B) Sell some of that half million
fortune you claim to have in the markets; and most important:

C) Use the resulting money to move out of that hell hole.

Every day you stay there and whine about your surroundings adds
evidence that you're sadly lacking in success.

- Frank Krygowski


Tell us all: Since my home, which is paid for, is now worth $700,000,
Why would I need to cash in my investments to move elsewhere?


1)you can not take the $$$$ with you, so you'd be smarter to exchange
some of it for a better locale now.

BTW, it is only your "home" if it is in what we call strata title, aka ou
do not actually own the land.

If it is "house and land" then you could easily live in a hovel on $600k
worth of land. sort of reminds me of the old guy in the movie Up.
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Old July 8th 19, 04:02 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 7/7/2019 8:22 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 7:19:28 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/6/2019 5:34 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 11:21:35 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 10:08:09 AM UTC+1, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:53:04 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:14:53 AM UTC-7, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 8:53:13 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
See https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...lands-anti-fa/ about the police-assisted fascisti who call themselves Anti-Fa in Portland beating up a gay Asian journalist.

Andre Jute
Disgusted at the Antifa's racism

Still hoping for another krystalnacht when your "proud boys" are allowed to run amok with impunity, eh Andre? Or maybe you would just like to see people passively sit and 'turn the other cheek' like when Dylan Roof performed his act of heroism on that unsuspecting elder black prayer circle. Face it, you're just ****ed because people are actively fighting back against your attempts at suppression/oppression. Ngo was an active supporter of the 'proud boys', and had published Islamophobic screeds. He may be gay and asian, but you know you're actually being quite dishonest when you suggested he was targeted for that. Meanwhile, the rants on your side of "jews will not replace us" go completely unmentioned by you.

Zencycle
Disgusted at Jute's hypocrisy.

The Antifa are the SAME people as Hitler's brownshirts and they should be treated as such. I would have had a different reaction than some journalist who was doing nothing but reporting what was going on.

Believe me Zen - if you were to make your comments to my face you would only do it once.

As you say, I do not live in the U.S. and haven't for some years so I
have never heard of the "Antifa"so I had to read up on them on the Net
and I read:

The Antifa movement is a conglomeration of left-wing autonomous,
militant anti-fascist groups in the United States... Activists
involved in the movement tend to be anti-capitalists and subscribe to
a range of ideologies, typically on the left. They include anarchists,
socialists and communists...

This hardly sounds like the Brownshirts, actual name "The
Sturmabteilung", literally Storm Detachment, was the Nazi Party's
original paramilitary.Its primary purposes were providing protection
for Nazi rallies and assemblies, disrupting the meetings of opposing
parties, especially the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), and
intimidating Romani, trade unionists, and, especially, Jews.

It appears that you have gotten it wrong (yet again) as the Antifa are
described as being very Left Wing... anarchists, socialists and
communists.

While the Brownshirts seem to have been exactly the opposite and
attacked communists and trade unions and other such socialist
organizations.

--

Cheers,

John B.

You're such a dim dingbat, Slow Johnny. I've already explained above why Ernst Roehm's Brownshirts were far left-wingers. But let me spell it out for you. Hitler, a socialist and leader of the National Socialist or NaZi party for short, killed Roehm and the rest of the Brownshirt's leadership because the Army, whose support Hitler required to institute an elected dictatorship, demanded stability, and Roehm wanted his revolution to continue, that is, he was well to the left of Hitler who was courting the Prussian Establishment, which was essentially the Army. There was also an element of sexual politics, just as there is today, in that the Junkers (that's about 90% the same thing as the German Establishment, and the Army High Command too) found Roehm's homosexuality disgusting. Basically, Stalin had Trotsky killed (well, besides the fact that Trotsky knew how little Lenin valued Stalin, so that Stalin couldn't rewrite history to move himself centrestage during the Bolshevik Revo

lu
tion until Trotsky and a whole bunch of other Old Bolsheviks were dead) for the same reason, that Trotsky believed in everlasting revolution and Stalin was in power and consolidating and expanding his power, and did want any sideshow bovvers right then.

An exercise you may want to consider it to consider whether the "crowdsourced" information on Wikipedia isn't written by Klantifa and its sympathisers. You might also want to consider why Hitler, an explicit socialist, is called a "right-winger", and by whom, and what they have to gain, when that other massmurdering socialist thug, Stalin, to the Left is Dear Uncle Joe. Everything gets easier to understand once you go past the labels biased people have laid on them, and see them both as left-wing totalitarian thugs and murderers.

Andre Jute
Prayer for today: Oh, oh woe, save me from jumped-up mechanics with a link to Google!

In an almost continuous string ALL Snowflakes say the same thing - that President Trump is a fascist despite the fact that fascism is the inevitable result of socialism and the necessity for a socialist government to obtain total control of their countries.

While the socialists here are crying for more power over the people they are calling President Trump a fascist for removing progressively more and more government controls.

As you say, the morons do not know any history and they do not even know the actual definition of the terms they do easily throw about.


When asked, "What is Fascism?" Mussolini, noted expert on
the subject, replied, "Everything inside the State. Nothing
outside the State. Nothing against the State."

Sounds much like Bernie or Stalin or Marx himself to me.


Without naming them, because I've forgotten their names as irrelevant people, a belated toast to several now-gone posters to this forum who believed that Mussolini's corporatism, so well encapsulated above, meant that his government was of and for the corporations, the industrialists, the business bosses

Andre Jute
Heh-heh



The much-invoked "means of production" are us.

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Old July 8th 19, 04:23 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 16:29:23 -0700 (PDT), Chalo
wrote:

Frank Krygowski wrote:
I have several friends who are cops or ex-cops. Each of them is dedicated to
doing well at a very difficult job - a job I'd never, ever want to tackle.


Yeah... **** those guys. Bad cops drove away good cops a long time ago. What's left is either criminals under color of authority, or those who'll acquiesce to/support the criminals.


Perhaps that is true in the U.S. today but when I was a kid I had an
uncle that was a deputy sheriff and he was a good guy :-)
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cheers,

John B.

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Old July 8th 19, 07:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 18:22:04 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 5:31:35 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:


Tell us all: Since my home, which is paid for, is now worth $700,000, Why would I need to cash in my investments to move elsewhere?


Because you constantly whine here about the horrors of the area near you, and
blame it all on people whose views are not as nutty as yours.

If you like it there, quit whining about how terrible it is. If you don't like it
there, move.

- Frank Krygowski


But, if he moved he'd certainly find something to complain about at
the next place :-)
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