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Designing a custom Trials frame. I need your help and ideas.
Hello there, I've recently been sitting down and talking to Mr. Aran Cook @ Iolobikes, about making a custom trials frame. His company Iolobikes, already makes bespoke, totally customised biketrials frames and the results are extremely successful, strong, and longlasting. So, I decided it was time for a new frame... So what was there to get?: *KH 2005?* nah, seen 2 break at the hands of a friend. Plus I'd like to be different. *Koxx XTP?* Koxx-One is going in the bad direction of Koxx bikes, too expensive and really a scam for such a small thing. Plus it's aluminium= early death compared to tough steel frames. *Nimbus/Devil/Dan Heaton Koxx/Orange Bud?: *yeah had 2 of them already, all the same stuff basically... Any other frames, I don't really acknowledge as real buying options. So, I decided, instead of all those, why not have a customised trials frame that's both strong and unique? It'll be made of T45 Steel tubing which is Fillet brazed together (no welding). Choice of end powdercoating colour can be chosen, and Mr. Cook can add gussets or any other extras to stiffen the frame or reinforce it. What's further more reassuring is, that if I crack it (ever?) then Aran Cook can repair it and add further reinforcement or modify it to eliminate weakness. Where I need your help is that, I'll needing an already successful trials frame like the KH 2005 or KH 2004 to use as a base to help Aran get a good idea of how to get things sorted. It's going to be a tough T45 steel frame and will have the bearing holders of a KH frame, as I find the normal generic bearing holders of Nimbuses and Devils to be extremely tiresome to take apart and put together (as I learned from travelling abroad so much). I need you guys to tell me what you'd like to see in a custom trials frame and what frame I should send Aran to base it off. The frames I can send a KH 2004, KH 2005, or a Devil. The end resulting frame may look quite similar to its base frame, but it will be totally different in construction and strength, which is what matters. anyway, check out www.iolobikes.com and see the 'Construction and geometry' page to see how the T45 steel and Fillet brazing come into effect. Thanks for reading. -- Sponge Currently learning: how to drop -smoother- SIF MSN: feel free to add, I'm always up for a good chat and get to know other unicyclists ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sponge's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11883 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/52203 |
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Designing a custom Trials frame. I need your help and ideas.
i can't help but it sounds cool. How much are you having to pay to get it made -- Ricky W Unicycle For Christ my unicyclist.com names: lucky_8 and Ricky W my custom unicycle fund:$192 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ricky W's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12663 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/52203 |
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Designing a custom Trials frame. I need your help and ideas.
I'm not too sure yet, their bike frames cost 260 Pounds as a starting price. So I think my uni frame might cost around 100 if it's going to a fair price. -- Sponge Currently learning: how to drop -smoother- SIF MSN: feel free to add, I'm always up for a good chat and get to know other unicyclists ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sponge's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11883 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/52203 |
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Designing a custom Trials frame. I need your help and ideas.
What has been the break point of other frames? Or the problem point of other frames? That is probably the best place to start. The other thing you want to take into consideration is how much clearance you want and in what form. Do you want a form fitting frame similar to a rounded frame, or do you want a flat top. You seem to know what you want in terms of a bearing clamp so really the things to look at a basic frame design (single piece, hunter style, or reinforced hunter style which I think ryan used to have and Jeff Groves is still riding), and crown style. Going by flat top crown style on a basic single piece frame, there are three major styles I can think of, "flat" top (Torker DX style), "round" top (Koxx signiture style), and "post" top (Yuni style frames). Are you having a problem with breaking frames? Bending them? Are they too heavy? The best way to design a frame is to find out what the things are that make you not want to use a production frame. Not just o I heard this is bad, or this one is ugly, but what is it that makes the frame a bad one. -- ntappin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ntappin's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10800 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/52203 |
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Designing a custom Trials frame. I need your help and ideas.
I would think that a good frame would be a lot like the 2005 KH frame, only perhaps more reinforcements around the crown, and knurling on the crown. seeing as your having it made, you might as well get a long seat tube also. minimal tire clearence would be good also. that's about all I can think of. -- mornish tobbogonist wrote: that was neat, now i only have to put it to use. parents banned my uni due to low school marks so if there are any nerds out there with a kind heart, i have a psychology assignment that is a few weeks over due, it is on intelligence. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mornish's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11658 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/52203 |
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Designing a custom Trials frame. I need your help and ideas.
mornish wrote: I would think that a good frame would be a lot like the 2005 KH frame, only perhaps more reinforcements around the crown, and knurling on the crown. seeing as your having it made, you might as well get a long seat tube also. minimal tire clearence would be good also. that's about all I can think of. Minimal tire clearance is something I would actualy stear away from for a trials frame as you are very likely to knock your wheel out of true if you are killing frames, also knurling is something that would weaken a crown and is something that is definatly not needed for a trials uni. But yeah your suggestion of a long seat tube seems like a good one, I would imagine that that is probably a large thing that most trials frames havn't even touched. -- ntappin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ntappin's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10800 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/52203 |
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Designing a custom Trials frame. I need your help and ideas.
ok, I thinkt he reason why there aren't long neck trials frames is because they would most likely have to have different size choices and short people still might not fit on them. maybe extra reinforcers around the seat crown then. If it's for pure trials a round crown frame will save you alot of bruised knees also. -- mornish tobbogonist wrote: that was neat, now i only have to put it to use. parents banned my uni due to low school marks so if there are any nerds out there with a kind heart, i have a psychology assignment that is a few weeks over due, it is on intelligence. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mornish's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11658 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/52203 |
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Designing a custom Trials frame. I need your help and ideas.
ntappin, I'm having this custom frame made because I have seen faults on previous frames. Joe Hodges is having a chip in on this frame design, as he wants a frame that won't break on him, even though he's getting an XTP. However, its just something I wanted to make, so possibly, with more interest, Iolobikes can custom make some more uni frames for other people, at an affordable price. However, i am still stuck on what sort of frame style I want. I don't think I want the Devil type, I'm kinda thinking between the KH 2005 or KH2004 frame styles (whatever the proper names are). More suggestions are welcome. -- Sponge Currently learning: how to drop -smoother- SIF MSN: feel free to add, I'm always up for a good chat and get to know other unicyclists ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sponge's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11883 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/52203 |
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Designing a custom Trials frame. I need your help and ideas.
Also, I have taken into consideration, the break points and the weakspots on some trials frames. The Nimbus II frame's weakspot just below the top of its legs, and the KH 2005's weakspot at the weld joining the seattube to the rest of the frame. I'm mainly a trials rider, but really wouldn't mind being able to do a few flatland moves like 1 footing etc. So I think a flat top is best, but now comes the hard choice, what kind of flat top do I want? EDIT: could someone maybe show me pictures and describe what a "single piece", "hunter style", "reinforced hunter", or "crown style". I probably know what they are but just haven't really used these terms often. -- Sponge Currently learning: how to drop -smoother- SIF MSN: feel free to add, I'm always up for a good chat and get to know other unicyclists ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sponge's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11883 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/52203 |
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Designing a custom Trials frame. I need your help and ideas.
Itake it you want a squareish crown then? also, does iolobikes make titanium frames? I'm not sure how strong a titanium frame would be, but it would be aweosme to have a titanium trials frame -- mornish tobbogonist wrote: that was neat, now i only have to put it to use. parents banned my uni due to low school marks so if there are any nerds out there with a kind heart, i have a psychology assignment that is a few weeks over due, it is on intelligence. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mornish's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11658 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/52203 |
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