Cycling accidents - British TV documentary

John Kane wrote:
On Oct 7, 9:09 am, Jallaphanti wrote:
On Oct 7, 10:38 am, ed wrote:

We make serious documentaries for British TV - BBC and Channel 4
mostly, and are now working on programme about cycling accidents
involving heavy goods vehicles around the UK.
There have been several accidents, and deaths, in London so far this
year which have been comvered, to some extent, by the press.
But what about accidents outside London around the rest of the
country? We have found these very hard to find. If you know of such
accidents involving heavy good vehicles, outside of London, please get
in touch.
Many thanks. We would like your help.
Surely there are other more accurate ways of getting such data than
requesting on an internet forum?

Not necessarily, at least as a check on other sources or a first
sweep. URC readers are probably the main group in the UK who are
intensely interested in such a topic. There is probably more
expertise on safe cycling, cycling injuries, road design as related to
safe cycling and even gasp helmets here than anywhere else in the UK.
What participants down know they probably know who does or how to find
it.

John Kane Kingston


It does seem impossible to find a central repository for road deaths,
let alone large vehicle road deaths, by use of the internet. An example
of to much information obscuring the required data. Given this the most
accurate method of data collection might be to request the fatal
collision reports from police forces around the country and then to
discard the data that does not relate to large vehicles. Comment could
then be sought from URC members about specific cases which might then
raise better and more informed debate.

As David mentions the use of the word accident is 'unfortunate' as it
implies the poster has fallen into the common trap of ascribing
collisions as 'non-fault' occurrences. It is worthy of note that UK
police no longer describe collisions as 'accidents' and that the City of
London incident board on Lower Thames Street J/W Southwark Bridge scene
of a recent large vehicle v cyclist death describes the incident with
the non attributable phrase 'Road Death'. This topic has to my memory
been discussed at length on URC and it may be beneficial to the poster
to understand the influence of this discussion on road safety. I shall
leave posting of such links to more technical with better knowledge of
the relevant topic threads.

Sniper8052

On Oct 7, 10:50*am, "
wrote:
On Oct 7, 10:38 am, ed wrote:

We make serious documentaries for British TV - BBC and Channel 4
mostly, and are now working on programme about cycling accidents
involving heavy goods vehicles around the UK.

There have been several accidents, and deaths, in London so far this
year which have been comvered, to some extent, by the press.

But what about accidents outside London around the rest of the
country? *We have found these very hard to find. *If you know of such
accidents involving heavy good vehicles, outside of London, please get
in touch.

Many thanks. *We would like your help.

Could you post what production company you are, your company address
and proper details etc...

From another group I frequent:

"Cambridge Cycling Campaign has been contacted by a film
company who are trying to make a film (for Panorama he believes) about
left
turning HGVs and Cyclists. Their last attempt a year ago failed
because they
could not find significant recently reported incidents outside of
London,
Cambridge and Oxford. Without more 'National' significance the program
is not
considered viable.

If you know of any serious incidents, even if all you know is a
reference in the
press, could you please contact:

Ed Harriman
Producer/Director
Brook Lapping Productions
London

Ten Alps PLC
The factual media company
http://www.tenalps.com"

Hope that helps.

Calum