No Helmets Needed?

Johnny Sunset wrote:


I don't think "Saint Ed Dolan" will be riding anything like that
anytime soon!

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



Besides, the hills are too steep for him.

"NYC XYZ" wrote in message
ups.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:


Yes, both are true. Therefore, appearances matter. Who we really are is
unknown, even to ourselves.

Appearances only matter to fools.

You have so far appeared rather poorly here on these newsgroups.

Aristotle was wrong about most things under the sun as was Plato and
Socrates.

Actually, that's you.

It was a rediscovery of Aristotle that lead to the Renaissance. Prior
to that, the Church was all about Plato.

Like I said, I would...but I'm afraid you'd only go postal in a
bookstore.

But still they were superior to the Orientals that had existed up
to that time

Of course, that all depends on what the Dickens you mean by "superior"
in this case.

(Don't bother -- it's rhetorical. Was only reminded of a program last
night on PBS about that Egyptian Pharaoh who believed in one god, and
how the narrator used the most outlandish superlatives without
qualification or explanation: "the greatest empire ever," "changed the
world forever," etc. For your own much-needed information, you'll want
to remember Oxford don Joseph Needham's eleven-volume "Science and
Civilization in Ancient China.")

The Ancients were human beings of course, but sufficiently different from us
in their thinking that we need not concern ourselves with them. Even the
Greeks and the Romans were not much better.The only kind of civilization I
care about began with the West at about the time of the Renaissance in
Italy.

. It took the Renaissance before man began to think at all
logically about things due to the emergence of scientific thinking.

No, the ancient Greeks were already codifying formal logic. And as far
as the empiricism of scientific thinking, nothing could be done without
its actual practice, whatever the circumstances of its actual
codification as theory, so the fact is that it was already

Did you know that Aristotle thought women had fewer teeth in their mouth
than men. It apparently never occurred to him to look inside a woman's mouth
and count the teeth. What do you make of that? So much for logic!

The High Middle Ages were quite innovative in very many technical ways, but
still they lacked scientific thinking. Technology is not science and is
always severely limited in what it can know.

Yup, he is Jew all right and a New York Jew too - the worst kind. He and
Howard Stern are birds of a feather - liberal and scummy!

Who's "he"? What are you talking about now?

You indicated that you thought Howard Stern was the cat's pajamas in
contradistinction to Rush Limbaugh. Stern is scum and Limbaugh is not. Need
more be said?

We will never know will we because you did not include the pertinent
passage
to which reference was being made.

Never heard of google?

The main thing you need to know about me is that I am the laziest person in
the world. Not only that, but I take great pride in being so lazy.
Therefore, I will NEVER go back and look up anything. It either gets posted
right in the first place or it is lost forever as far as I am concerned.

Like all half-educated slobs, you do not
know how to edit.
[...]

I was rather hoping that you wouldn't forget your own bull**** so soon!

Nope, include everything that you want me to respond to and I will. I do not
bother to even remember what I say from one moment to the next. I am too
Great for that. I leave the trifling details of life to my inferiors, and
their numbers are legion.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan wrote:


You have so far appeared rather poorly here on these newsgroups.

Which statement completes the syllogism with the conclusion that you
are, therefore, a fool.

The Ancients were human beings of course, but sufficiently different from us
in their thinking that we need not concern ourselves with them. Even the
Greeks and the Romans were not much better.The only kind of civilization I
care about began with the West at about the time of the Renaissance in
Italy.

Which looked back to Greece, which was inspired by the people of the
Levant, who drew from ancient Sumer....

Did you know that Aristotle thought women had fewer teeth in their mouth
than men. It apparently never occurred to him to look inside a woman's mouth
and count the teeth. What do you make of that? So much for logic!

That was about RIBS, actually, and it didn't concern Aristotle.

The High Middle Ages were quite innovative in very many technical ways, but
still they lacked scientific thinking. Technology is not science and is
always severely limited in what it can know.

And you're telling me this because...?

You indicated that you thought Howard Stern was the cat's pajamas in
contradistinction to Rush Limbaugh. Stern is scum and Limbaugh is not. Need
more be said?

Yeah, for your own benefit, so that you get your own story straight:
limhog is not scummy and liberal like joo stern?

Then who the hell is "he"??

The main thing you need to know about me is that I am the laziest person in
the world. Not only that, but I take great pride in being so lazy.
Therefore, I will NEVER go back and look up anything. It either gets posted
right in the first place or it is lost forever as far as I am concerned.

Lemme guess...you only ride along in a tandem 'bent.

Nope, include everything that you want me to respond to and I will. I do not
bother to even remember what I say from one moment to the next. I am too
Great for that. I leave the trifling details of life to my inferiors, and
their numbers are legion.

And how many cats do you have?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Maybe you should wear a helmet next time!

The Wogster wrote:

Naw, not a 'bent rider, although I wouldn't mind trying to ride one...
I remember the Vic-20 though, I actually worked for Commodore Business
Machines the summer they brought out the C-64, did some programming
with a demo that had serial number 6.

Ah, those were the days, I hear, when a game could be totally designed
by the programmer, who raked in most of the cash! I hope you had your
Richard Garriot moments.

Me, I was still to be introduced to a Commodore PET in Sixth Grade!

As for computer mags, kinda liked Byte myself....

No wonder you ain't no 'bent rider! Probably use an Apple now, too.

W

"NYC XYZ" wrote in message
oups.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:


You have so far appeared rather poorly here on these newsgroups.

Which statement completes the syllogism with the conclusion that you
are, therefore, a fool.

See what happens when you don't edit properly. No one will know what you are
talking about, other than that you have called me a fool and I have called
you as one who appears poorly on newsgroups.

The Ancients were human beings of course, but sufficiently different from
us
in their thinking that we need not concern ourselves with them. Even the
Greeks and the Romans were not much better.The only kind of civilization
I
care about began with the West at about the time of the Renaissance in
Italy.

Which looked back to Greece, which was inspired by the people of the
Levant, who drew from ancient Sumer....

Jeez, I never realized that civilizations are just games where the old
football gets passed from one to the next. You mean no people ever had any
originality. It was just all influences?

Did you know that Aristotle thought women had fewer teeth in their mouth
than men. It apparently never occurred to him to look inside a woman's
mouth
and count the teeth. What do you make of that? So much for logic!

That was about RIBS, actually, and it didn't concern Aristotle.

Nonsense, that was what a professor of philosophy told me once in a college
class and professors are never wrong about anything.

The High Middle Ages were quite innovative in very many technical ways,
but
still they lacked scientific thinking. Technology is not science and is
always severely limited in what it can know.

And you're telling me this because...?

Who knows why I saying what I am saying, Even I don't know. That is because
you do not know how to edit.

You indicated that you thought Howard Stern was the cat's pajamas in
contradistinction to Rush Limbaugh. Stern is scum and Limbaugh is not.
Need
more be said?

Yeah, for your own benefit, so that you get your own story straight:
limhog is not scummy and liberal like joo stern?

So why didn't you just say that in the first place instead of telling me
what a great Jew Stern is?
[...]

One-liner responses are for idiots and that seems to be all you are capable
of. I would like to introduce you to a guy here on ARBR who signs himself
Slugger. He is like you and the two of you should get along perfectly. But I
require intelligence in a correspondent. Furthermore, why bore and insult
these honorable newsgroups, otherwise known as RBM and ARBR.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan wrote:


See what happens when you don't edit properly. No one will know what you are
talking about, other than that you have called me a fool and I have called
you as one who appears poorly on newsgroups.

You seem to understand fine enough, and I wouldn't call you no one,
whatever else I call you.

Jeez, I never realized that civilizations are just games where the old
football gets passed from one to the next. You mean no people ever had any
originality. It was just all influences?

What's the matter, you don't believe in evolution?

Nonsense, that was what a professor of philosophy told me once in a college
class and professors are never wrong about anything.

During the class on the Cretan Paradox, no doubt.

Who knows why I saying what I am saying, Even I don't know. That is because
you do not know how to edit.

Why, all you need is to pay attention!

So why didn't you just say that in the first place instead of telling me
what a great Jew Stern is?
[...]

I didn't say anything about stern other than what I'd said initially,
which is nothing like what you've been on about all this time.

And Hitler was a Jew.

One-liner responses are for idiots and that seems to be all you are capable
of.

Anything more and you forget! Do you also have trouble going across
the room to turn off the light?

I would like to introduce you to a guy here on ARBR who signs himself
Slugger. He is like you and the two of you should get along perfectly. But I
require intelligence in a correspondent. Furthermore, why bore and insult
these honorable newsgroups, otherwise known as RBM and ARBR.

Therefore, I propose that you update your material -- or start
cribbing.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Funny...I'd imagine that Texas might suit you more.

Edward Dolan wrote:
"NYC XYZ" wrote in message
ups.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:


Yes, both are true. Therefore, appearances matter. Who we really are is
unknown, even to ourselves.

Appearances only matter to fools.


You have so far appeared rather poorly here on these newsgroups.


Aristotle was wrong about most things under the sun as was Plato and
Socrates.

Actually, that's you.

It was a rediscovery of Aristotle that lead to the Renaissance. Prior
to that, the Church was all about Plato.

Like I said, I would...but I'm afraid you'd only go postal in a
bookstore.


But still they were superior to the Orientals that had existed up
to that time

Of course, that all depends on what the Dickens you mean by "superior"
in this case.

(Don't bother -- it's rhetorical. Was only reminded of a program last
night on PBS about that Egyptian Pharaoh who believed in one god, and
how the narrator used the most outlandish superlatives without
qualification or explanation: "the greatest empire ever," "changed the
world forever," etc. For your own much-needed information, you'll want
to remember Oxford don Joseph Needham's eleven-volume "Science and
Civilization in Ancient China.")


The Ancients were human beings of course, but sufficiently different from us
in their thinking that we need not concern ourselves with them. Even the
Greeks and the Romans were not much better.The only kind of civilization I
care about began with the West at about the time of the Renaissance in
Italy.

However if it had not been for the rise and fall of the Italian (Roman)
Empire, then the Italian Renaissance, might have never happened.



. It took the Renaissance before man began to think at all
logically about things due to the emergence of scientific thinking.

No, the ancient Greeks were already codifying formal logic. And as far
as the empiricism of scientific thinking, nothing could be done without
its actual practice, whatever the circumstances of its actual
codification as theory, so the fact is that it was already


Did you know that Aristotle thought women had fewer teeth in their mouth
than men. It apparently never occurred to him to look inside a woman's mouth
and count the teeth. What do you make of that? So much for logic!

That's not logic, perhaps the women he did look at, had lost a few teeth
by that time, so he figured they had less, perhaps with a larger sample
size, the possible truth of his idea would have disappeared.....


The High Middle Ages were quite innovative in very many technical ways, but
still they lacked scientific thinking. Technology is not science and is
always severely limited in what it can know.

Science and Technology are close relatives. Science is the knowledge,
technology is the implementation of that knowledge. No technology now
in existance, would exist without some scientific discovery.

Here is an example, the science: If you take methane gas, and apply
heat you get a chemical reaction (fire). This lead to the technology
behind the natural gas furnace. One that I am happy about this morning,
in that the temperature outside is -12C, so I don't have to go out and
chop wood this morning.

W

NYC XYZ wrote:
The Wogster wrote:

Naw, not a 'bent rider, although I wouldn't mind trying to ride one...
I remember the Vic-20 though, I actually worked for Commodore Business
Machines the summer they brought out the C-64, did some programming
with a demo that had serial number 6.


Ah, those were the days, I hear, when a game could be totally designed
by the programmer, who raked in most of the cash! I hope you had your
Richard Garriot moments.

Me, I was still to be introduced to a Commodore PET in Sixth Grade!

I think I was in Grade 10, when our school got a pair of PETs in the
school library, and you had to sign out computer time, and nerdy types
always had a cassette tape in their shirt pockets. Rebels had a
cigarette pack in the same pocket, and Jocks didn't wear shirts with
pockets.

As for computer mags, kinda liked Byte myself....


No wonder you ain't no 'bent rider! Probably use an Apple now, too.

Nope, I type this on an old IBM that I bought 5 years ago..... Apple
have always been too pricey, and black boxes. The IBM I can upgrade,
but will probably just replace. I still read Jerry Pournelle, but these
days it's online.

W

The Wogster wrote:


I think I was in Grade 10, when our school got a pair of PETs in the
school library, and you had to sign out computer time, and nerdy types
always had a cassette tape in their shirt pockets. Rebels had a
cigarette pack in the same pocket, and Jocks didn't wear shirts with
pockets.

The best programmer of the grade was this kid named Steven Solution --
I kid you not!

It was great fun, programming in Basic and Logo.

One thing I remember was this Turkish kid who used to go around
grabbing other guys' asses for a prank (he only did this with his
friends). Finally this German kid, Anthony, who's now a California
surfer hunk dude, threatened to beat him up. That put a stop to it.

I'd never even heard of a computer until then. I was extremely puzzled
when the computer asked me what was my name, how was I feeling, etc.
This was the famous "Eliza" AI program who had me spooked! Everyone
else was dying of laughter.

Nope, I type this on an old IBM that I bought 5 years ago..... Apple
have always been too pricey, and black boxes. The IBM I can upgrade,
but will probably just replace. I still read Jerry Pournelle, but these
days it's online.

W

Hm, I wonder where those guys from Iowa (Info mag) are these days?

Too bad Computer Gaming World got sold and is now corporate.

Those were the days! They actually made games which told stories. I
actually miss cleverly-designed 8-bit graphics!

"NYC XYZ" wrote in message
oups.com...
Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
So why didn't you just say that in the first place instead of telling me
what a great Jew Stern is?
[...]

I didn't say anything about stern other than what I'd said initially,
which is nothing like what you've been on about all this time.

But we will never know what you said in the first place because you have
edited it out of all your posts. You insult the reader when you do this.
After all, we are not just writing to one another. This is a newsgroup, not
email.

And Hitler was a Jew.

I doubt it, but there is some mystery here apparently.
[...]

I will no longer respond to one-liners except for those very few which will
give me an opportunity to wax eloquent on subjects of my own choosing.
After all, I have readers I must consider even if you don't. One-liners are
for idiots, not for Great Ones like myself.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota