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  #1  
Old July 2nd 11, 07:43 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
JimmyMac
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Default Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective

I haven't been here in quite a while. With advanced (end state,
metastatic), clinical stage 4 prostate cancer, I've had to reassess my
priorities, put hings in perspective and frankly ARBR was not at the
top of the list. I have bigger fish to fry, so to speak. Regardless,
I see that little has changed here. The forum has lost many of it
members and is no longer about recumbent bicycles. ARBR has become
the sounding board and soap box of the Tibetan Monkey who arguably has
has far too much time on his hands. Even the crotchety Ed Dolan
appears to have had enough and departed for other forums. I've seen
this once useful forum hit the skids, degenerate and eventually rock
bottom. It has gone through a regressive evolution that is
unfortunate. Here are my thoughts in general regarding the Internet
forum life cycle of which ARBR is a prime example...

Like it or not, Internet forums commonly undergo an evolutionary
process regardless of whether they are moderated or unmoderated. The
natural life cycle of an Internet forum, with its various phases,
might be best summed up as follows:

1. Declaration of Enthusiasm - Subscribers introduce themselves and
gush over how wonderful it is to have encountered kindred spirits.

2. Origin of Evangelism - Participants moan about how the forum
consists of far too few members and brainstorming ensues to initiate
recruitment strategies.

3. Expansion of Community - An ever increasing number of interested
parties subscribe and contribute to the forum. Lengthy threads
develop (some more relevant than others).

4. Emergence of Camaraderie - Information and advice is exchanged
(some empirically founded ... some just anecdotal nonsense).
Friendships are forged. Members rib one another, but all in good
fun. New subscribers are welcomed and newbies. Both newcomers and
veterans alike are receptive to asking questions, providing answers,
and sharing experiences.

5. Genesis of Disenchantment - The volume of postings increases
dramatically. Not all threads are of interest to all participants.
Members pitch a bitch about signal-to-noise ratio, off-topic threads,
me too posts, forged and spoofed identities, forwarding of private
emails, and other violations of internet forum netiquette. Member #1
threatens to unsubscribe if things don't change for the better.
Member #2 aligns himself with Member #1. Member #3 disagrees with
both Members #1 and #2. Member #4 suggests that Members #1, #2, and
#3 should lighten up. Flame wars erupt and adversaries emerge.
Bandwidth is sacrificed as an abundance of postings proliferate in an
effort to resolve differences and restore some semblance of order.
During this particular phase, many a delete key gets more than its
share of abuse and filtering and killfiles are implemented.

6. Stagnation of Growth - The purists castigate members who ask an old
question or respond humorously to a serious post. Newcomers are
rebuffed and discouraged. SPAM posts, trolls and stalkers dominate
the forum. Traffic volume subsides considerably and is generally
confined to minor topics. Many relevant issues are communicated via
private emails. Some members turn in their membership cards in a huff
and the remaining members continue to participate in phases #4 and/or
#5 above.

7. Salvation from Destruction - Someone like me pounds away at the
keyboard composing a post such as this one in an effort to stir the
juices of those members who find themselves entrenched in the quagmire
of phase #4 and/or #5 above ... mostly #5 in hopes of resurection ;-)

Well, at least this posting should prove to be a thought provoking
departure from the norm and hopefully sheds some light on the nature
of the beast we have come to love and hate ... the internet forum.
Perhaps I should have added a pahse nuber 8 (Fight of Forum), when
hope is abandoned, forum flight ensues and membership dwindles.
  #2  
Old July 3rd 11, 08:35 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
Tºm Shermªn °_°
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Posts: 413
Default Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective

On 7/2/2011 1:43 PM, JimmyMac wrote:
I haven't been here in quite a while. With advanced (end state,
metastatic), clinical stage 4 prostate cancer, I've had to reassess my
priorities, put hings in perspective and frankly ARBR was not at the
top of the list. I have bigger fish to fry, so to speak. Regardless,
I see that little has changed here. The forum has lost many of it
members and is no longer about recumbent bicycles. ARBR has become
the sounding board and soap box of the Tibetan Monkey who arguably has
has far too much time on his hands. Even the crotchety Ed Dolan
appears to have had enough and departed for other forums. I've seen
this once useful forum hit the skids, degenerate and eventually rock
bottom. It has gone through a regressive evolution that is
unfortunate. Here are my thoughts in general regarding the Internet
forum life cycle of which ARBR is a prime example...

Like it or not, Internet forums commonly undergo an evolutionary
process regardless of whether they are moderated or unmoderated. The
natural life cycle of an Internet forum, with its various phases,
might be best summed up as follows:

1. Declaration of Enthusiasm - Subscribers introduce themselves and
gush over how wonderful it is to have encountered kindred spirits.

2. Origin of Evangelism - Participants moan about how the forum
consists of far too few members and brainstorming ensues to initiate
recruitment strategies.

3. Expansion of Community - An ever increasing number of interested
parties subscribe and contribute to the forum. Lengthy threads
develop (some more relevant than others).

4. Emergence of Camaraderie - Information and advice is exchanged
(some empirically founded ... some just anecdotal nonsense).
Friendships are forged. Members rib one another, but all in good
fun. New subscribers are welcomed and newbies. Both newcomers and
veterans alike are receptive to asking questions, providing answers,
and sharing experiences.

1998 to 2001

5. Genesis of Disenchantment - The volume of postings increases
dramatically. Not all threads are of interest to all participants.
Members pitch a bitch about signal-to-noise ratio, off-topic threads,
me too posts, forged and spoofed identities, forwarding of private
emails, and other violations of internet forum netiquette. Member #1
threatens to unsubscribe if things don't change for the better.
Member #2 aligns himself with Member #1. Member #3 disagrees with
both Members #1 and #2. Member #4 suggests that Members #1, #2, and
#3 should lighten up. Flame wars erupt and adversaries emerge.
Bandwidth is sacrificed as an abundance of postings proliferate in an
effort to resolve differences and restore some semblance of order.
During this particular phase, many a delete key gets more than its
share of abuse and filtering and killfiles are implemented.

The general attitude in the US after the false-flag attacks of Sept. 11,
2001 and the arrival of Ed Dolan [1].

6. Stagnation of Growth - The purists castigate members who ask an old
question or respond humorously to a serious post. Newcomers are
rebuffed and discouraged. SPAM posts, trolls and stalkers dominate
the forum. Traffic volume subsides considerably and is generally
confined to minor topics. Many relevant issues are communicated via
private emails. Some members turn in their membership cards in a huff
and the remaining members continue to participate in phases #4 and/or
#5 above.

Flight to the nanny forum.

7. Salvation from Destruction - Someone like me pounds away at the
keyboard composing a post such as this one in an effort to stir the
juices of those members who find themselves entrenched in the quagmire
of phase #4 and/or #5 above ... mostly #5 in hopes of resurection ;-)

People these days are not satisfied with plain text, despite Usenet
being my better to use than web-based forums.

Less is indeed more.

Well, at least this posting should prove to be a thought provoking
departure from the norm and hopefully sheds some light on the nature
of the beast we have come to love and hate ... the internet forum.
Perhaps I should have added a pahse nuber 8 (Fight of Forum), when
hope is abandoned, forum flight ensues and membership dwindles.


Most of the former posters seem happier in an environment when a
moderator steps in and squelches things at the first sign of spirited
discourse.

One cannot also ignore most ISPs dropping Usenet out of liability
concerns, which limits new participation, and is responsible for much of
the decline in Usenet. This was a foolish decision, as the binary
groups (containing "pr0n" and "warez") could have been dropped, while
retaining the text only groups.

[1] Cross-posted to rec.bicycles.soc, since it seems unfair to talk
about a person behind his back.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
  #3  
Old July 5th 11, 06:55 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
JimmyMac
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Posts: 3,754
Default Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective

On Jul 3, 2:35*pm, Tm Shermn _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/2/2011 1:43 PM, JimmyMac wrote:

I haven't been here in quite a while. *With advanced (end state,
metastatic), clinical stage 4 prostate cancer, I've had to reassess my
priorities, put hings in perspective and frankly ARBR was not at the
top of the list. *I have bigger fish to fry, so to speak. *Regardless,
I see that little has changed here. *The forum has lost many of it
members and is no longer about recumbent bicycles. *ARBR has become
the sounding board and soap box of the Tibetan Monkey who arguably has
has far too much time on his hands. *Even the crotchety Ed Dolan
appears to have had enough and departed for other forums. *I've seen
this once useful forum hit the skids, degenerate and eventually rock
bottom. *It has gone through a regressive evolution that is
unfortunate. *Here are my thoughts in general regarding the Internet
forum life cycle of which ARBR is a prime example...


Like it or not, Internet forums commonly undergo an evolutionary
process regardless of whether they are moderated or unmoderated. *The
natural life cycle of an Internet forum, with its various phases,
might be best summed up as follows:


1. Declaration of Enthusiasm - Subscribers introduce themselves and
gush over how wonderful it is to have encountered kindred spirits.


2. Origin of Evangelism - Participants moan about how the forum
consists of far too few members and brainstorming ensues to initiate
recruitment strategies.


3. Expansion of Community - An ever increasing number of interested
parties subscribe and contribute to the forum. *Lengthy threads
develop (some more relevant than others).


4. Emergence of Camaraderie - Information and advice is exchanged
(some empirically founded ... some just anecdotal nonsense).
Friendships are forged. *Members rib one another, but all in good
fun. *New subscribers are welcomed and newbies. *Both newcomers and
veterans alike are receptive to asking questions, providing answers,
and sharing experiences.


1998 to 2001

5. Genesis of Disenchantment - The volume of postings increases
dramatically. *Not all threads are of interest to all participants.
Members pitch a bitch about signal-to-noise ratio, off-topic *threads,
me too posts, forged and spoofed identities, forwarding of private
emails, and other violations of internet forum netiquette. *Member #1
threatens to unsubscribe if things don't change for the better.
Member #2 aligns himself with Member #1. *Member #3 disagrees with
both Members #1 and #2. *Member #4 suggests that Members #1, #2, and
#3 should lighten up. *Flame wars erupt and adversaries emerge.
Bandwidth is sacrificed as an abundance of postings proliferate in an
effort to resolve differences and restore some semblance of order.
During this particular phase, many a delete key gets more than its
share of abuse and filtering and killfiles are implemented.


The general attitude in the US after the false-flag attacks of Sept. 11,
2001 and the arrival of Ed Dolan [1].

6. Stagnation of Growth - The purists castigate members who ask an old
question or respond humorously to a serious post. *Newcomers are
rebuffed and discouraged. *SPAM posts, trolls and stalkers dominate
the forum. *Traffic volume subsides considerably and is generally
confined to minor topics. *Many relevant issues are communicated via
private emails. *Some members turn in their membership cards in a huff
and the remaining members continue to participate in phases #4 and/or
#5 above.


Flight to the nanny forum.

7. Salvation from Destruction - Someone like me pounds away at the
keyboard composing a post such as this one in an effort to stir the
juices of those members who find themselves entrenched in the quagmire
of phase #4 and/or #5 above ... mostly #5 *in hopes of resurrection ;-)


People these days are not satisfied with plain text, despite Usenet
being my better to use than web-based forums.

Less is indeed more.

Well, at least this posting should prove to be a thought provoking
departure from the norm and hopefully sheds some light on the nature
of the beast we have come to love and hate ... the internet forum.
Perhaps I should have added a phase number 8 (Flight of Forum), when
hope is abandoned, forum flight ensues and membership dwindles.


Most of the former posters seem happier in an environment when a
moderator steps in and squelches things at the first sign of spirited
discourse.

One cannot also ignore most ISPs dropping Usenet out of liability
concerns, which limits new participation, and is responsible for much of
the decline in Usenet. *This was a foolish decision, as the binary
groups (containing "pr0n" and "warez") could have been dropped, while
retaining the text only groups.

[1] Cross-posted to rec.bicycles.soc, since it seems unfair to talk
about a person behind his back.

--
Tm Shermn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


Tom - I'm a bit surprised that only you replied. Typos from my
previous post corrected here. - Jim.

  #4  
Old July 5th 11, 11:42 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
ATP
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Default Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective


"JimmyMac" wrote in message
...
On Jul 3, 2:35 pm, Tm Shermn _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/2/2011 1:43 PM, JimmyMac wrote:

I haven't been here in quite a while. With advanced (end state,
metastatic), clinical stage 4 prostate cancer, I've had to reassess my
priorities, put hings in perspective and frankly ARBR was not at the
top of the list. I have bigger fish to fry, so to speak. Regardless,
I see that little has changed here. The forum has lost many of it
members and is no longer about recumbent bicycles. ARBR has become
the sounding board and soap box of the Tibetan Monkey who arguably has
has far too much time on his hands. Even the crotchety Ed Dolan
appears to have had enough and departed for other forums. I've seen
this once useful forum hit the skids, degenerate and eventually rock
bottom. It has gone through a regressive evolution that is
unfortunate. Here are my thoughts in general regarding the Internet
forum life cycle of which ARBR is a prime example...


Like it or not, Internet forums commonly undergo an evolutionary
process regardless of whether they are moderated or unmoderated. The
natural life cycle of an Internet forum, with its various phases,
might be best summed up as follows:


1. Declaration of Enthusiasm - Subscribers introduce themselves and
gush over how wonderful it is to have encountered kindred spirits.


2. Origin of Evangelism - Participants moan about how the forum
consists of far too few members and brainstorming ensues to initiate
recruitment strategies.


3. Expansion of Community - An ever increasing number of interested
parties subscribe and contribute to the forum. Lengthy threads
develop (some more relevant than others).


4. Emergence of Camaraderie - Information and advice is exchanged
(some empirically founded ... some just anecdotal nonsense).
Friendships are forged. Members rib one another, but all in good
fun. New subscribers are welcomed and newbies. Both newcomers and
veterans alike are receptive to asking questions, providing answers,
and sharing experiences.


1998 to 2001

5. Genesis of Disenchantment - The volume of postings increases
dramatically. Not all threads are of interest to all participants.
Members pitch a bitch about signal-to-noise ratio, off-topic threads,
me too posts, forged and spoofed identities, forwarding of private
emails, and other violations of internet forum netiquette. Member #1
threatens to unsubscribe if things don't change for the better.
Member #2 aligns himself with Member #1. Member #3 disagrees with
both Members #1 and #2. Member #4 suggests that Members #1, #2, and
#3 should lighten up. Flame wars erupt and adversaries emerge.
Bandwidth is sacrificed as an abundance of postings proliferate in an
effort to resolve differences and restore some semblance of order.
During this particular phase, many a delete key gets more than its
share of abuse and filtering and killfiles are implemented.


The general attitude in the US after the false-flag attacks of Sept. 11,
2001 and the arrival of Ed Dolan [1].

6. Stagnation of Growth - The purists castigate members who ask an old
question or respond humorously to a serious post. Newcomers are
rebuffed and discouraged. SPAM posts, trolls and stalkers dominate
the forum. Traffic volume subsides considerably and is generally
confined to minor topics. Many relevant issues are communicated via
private emails. Some members turn in their membership cards in a huff
and the remaining members continue to participate in phases #4 and/or
#5 above.


Flight to the nanny forum.

7. Salvation from Destruction - Someone like me pounds away at the
keyboard composing a post such as this one in an effort to stir the
juices of those members who find themselves entrenched in the quagmire
of phase #4 and/or #5 above ... mostly #5 in hopes of resurrection ;-)


People these days are not satisfied with plain text, despite Usenet
being my better to use than web-based forums.

Less is indeed more.

Well, at least this posting should prove to be a thought provoking
departure from the norm and hopefully sheds some light on the nature
of the beast we have come to love and hate ... the internet forum.
Perhaps I should have added a phase number 8 (Flight of Forum), when
hope is abandoned, forum flight ensues and membership dwindles.


Most of the former posters seem happier in an environment when a
moderator steps in and squelches things at the first sign of spirited
discourse.

One cannot also ignore most ISPs dropping Usenet out of liability
concerns, which limits new participation, and is responsible for much of
the decline in Usenet. This was a foolish decision, as the binary
groups (containing "pr0n" and "warez") could have been dropped, while
retaining the text only groups.

[1] Cross-posted to rec.bicycles.soc, since it seems unfair to talk
about a person behind his back.

--
Tm Shermn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


Tom - I'm a bit surprised that only you replied. Typos from my
previous post corrected here. - Jim.

I read it, agree with Tom, the same can be said of most Usenet groups. Good
wishes on your health issues.

Mike


  #5  
Old July 6th 11, 05:25 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
JimmyMac
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Posts: 3,754
Default Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective

On Jul 5, 5:42*pm, "ATP" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message

...
On Jul 3, 2:35 pm, Tm Shermn _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI



$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/2/2011 1:43 PM, JimmyMac wrote:


I haven't been here in quite a while. With advanced (end state,
metastatic), clinical stage 4 prostate cancer, I've had to reassess my
priorities, put hings in perspective and frankly ARBR was not at the
top of the list. I have bigger fish to fry, so to speak. Regardless,
I see that little has changed here. The forum has lost many of it
members and is no longer about recumbent bicycles. ARBR has become
the sounding board and soap box of the Tibetan Monkey who arguably has
has far too much time on his hands. Even the crotchety Ed Dolan
appears to have had enough and departed for other forums. I've seen
this once useful forum hit the skids, degenerate and eventually rock
bottom. It has gone through a regressive evolution that is
unfortunate. Here are my thoughts in general regarding the Internet
forum life cycle of which ARBR is a prime example...


Like it or not, Internet forums commonly undergo an evolutionary
process regardless of whether they are moderated or unmoderated. The
natural life cycle of an Internet forum, with its various phases,
might be best summed up as follows:


1. Declaration of Enthusiasm - Subscribers introduce themselves and
gush over how wonderful it is to have encountered kindred spirits.


2. Origin of Evangelism - Participants moan about how the forum
consists of far too few members and brainstorming ensues to initiate
recruitment strategies.


3. Expansion of Community - An ever increasing number of interested
parties subscribe and contribute to the forum. Lengthy threads
develop (some more relevant than others).


4. Emergence of Camaraderie - Information and advice is exchanged
(some empirically founded ... some just anecdotal nonsense).
Friendships are forged. Members rib one another, but all in good
fun. New subscribers are welcomed and newbies. Both newcomers and
veterans alike are receptive to asking questions, providing answers,
and sharing experiences.


1998 to 2001


5. Genesis of Disenchantment - The volume of postings increases
dramatically. Not all threads are of interest to all participants.
Members pitch a bitch about signal-to-noise ratio, off-topic threads,
me too posts, forged and spoofed identities, forwarding of private
emails, and other violations of internet forum netiquette. Member #1
threatens to unsubscribe if things don't change for the better.
Member #2 aligns himself with Member #1. Member #3 disagrees with
both Members #1 and #2. Member #4 suggests that Members #1, #2, and
#3 should lighten up. Flame wars erupt and adversaries emerge.
Bandwidth is sacrificed as an abundance of postings proliferate in an
effort to resolve differences and restore some semblance of order.
During this particular phase, many a delete key gets more than its
share of abuse and filtering and killfiles are implemented.


The general attitude in the US after the false-flag attacks of Sept. 11,
2001 and the arrival of Ed Dolan [1].


6. Stagnation of Growth - The purists castigate members who ask an old
question or respond humorously to a serious post. Newcomers are
rebuffed and discouraged. SPAM posts, trolls and stalkers dominate
the forum. Traffic volume subsides considerably and is generally
confined to minor topics. Many relevant issues are communicated via
private emails. Some members turn in their membership cards in a huff
and the remaining members continue to participate in phases #4 and/or
#5 above.


Flight to the nanny forum.


7. Salvation from Destruction - Someone like me pounds away at the
keyboard composing a post such as this one in an effort to stir the
juices of those members who find themselves entrenched in the quagmire
of phase #4 and/or #5 above ... mostly #5 in hopes of resurrection ;-)


People these days are not satisfied with plain text, despite Usenet
being my better to use than web-based forums.


Less is indeed more.


Well, at least this posting should prove to be a thought provoking
departure from the norm and hopefully sheds some light on the nature
of the beast we have come to love and hate ... the internet forum.
Perhaps I should have added a phase number 8 (Flight of Forum), when
hope is abandoned, forum flight ensues and membership dwindles.


Most of the former posters seem happier in an environment when a
moderator steps in and squelches things at the first sign of spirited
discourse.


One cannot also ignore most ISPs dropping Usenet out of liability
concerns, which limits new participation, and is responsible for much of
the decline in Usenet. This was a foolish decision, as the binary
groups (containing "pr0n" and "warez") could have been dropped, while
retaining the text only groups.


[1] Cross-posted to rec.bicycles.soc, since it seems unfair to talk
about a person behind his back.


--
Tm Shermn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


Tom - I'm a bit surprised that only you replied. *Typos from my
previous post corrected here. - Jim.

I read it, agree with Tom, the same can be said of most Usenet groups. Good
wishes on your health issues.

Mike



Thanks for the well wishing, Mike. I've come a long way since being
diagnosed and I am now in a much better place than I was just a few
months back. Unfortunately, prostate cancer becomes much more likely
as the age. Primates who share 99.9% of our DNA and are vegetarians
don't get prostate cancer. Canines in the wild don't get prostate
cancer. The only mammal known to get a significant amount of prostate
cancer is the dog, and who makes their food and feeds them table
scraps? Japanese men rarely get prostate cancer, but when they move
to places like Hawaii and California and change to consuming a Western
diet, their male born children get the same amount of prostate cancer
as other native born males. OK, this is all anecdotal but the
evidence strongly suggests that there is a correlation between diet
and the disease. If you or anyone else would care to read the details
of my complete story, it can be found posted here...

http://www.prostate.net/2011/survivo...-side-effects/

Jim McNamara
  #6  
Old July 6th 11, 06:25 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
Edward Dolan
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Posts: 14,212
Default Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective

"JimmyMac" wrote in message
...
[...]
Thanks for the well wishing, Mike. I've come a long way since being

diagnosed and I am now in a much better place than I was just a few
months back. Unfortunately, prostate cancer becomes much more likely
as the age. Primates who share 99.9% of our DNA and are vegetarians
don't get prostate cancer. Canines in the wild don't get prostate
cancer. The only mammal known to get a significant amount of prostate
cancer is the dog, and who makes their food and feeds them table
scraps? Japanese men rarely get prostate cancer, but when they move
to places like Hawaii and California and change to consuming a Western
diet, their male born children get the same amount of prostate cancer
as other native born males. OK, this is all anecdotal but the
evidence strongly suggests that there is a correlation between diet
and the disease. If you or anyone else would care to read the details
of my complete story, it can be found posted here...

http://www.prostate.net/2011/survivo...-side-effects/


Jim McNamara


The Western diet has been a disaster for my entire lifetime and it keeps on
getting worse ever year. Unfortunately, the rest of the world aspires to our
diet if and when they can ever afford it.

Every American male over the age of about 50 should have a PSA test every
year to check for prostate cancer. It is easily cured if caught early,
although there are no good treatments for it without complications.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #7  
Old July 6th 11, 04:47 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
Edward Dolan
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Posts: 14,212
Default Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective

"JimmyMac" wrote in message
...
[...]

Tom - I'm a bit surprised that only you replied. Typos from my

previous post corrected here. - Jim.

I responded at length, but it apparently disappeared into cyber space. The
computer, the Internet and Usenet are all terribly flawed and I can't be
bothered repeating my words of wisdom because of a ****ed-up technology.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #8  
Old July 6th 11, 04:53 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
Tºm Shermªn °_°
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Posts: 413
Default Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective

On 7/5/2011 10:47 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
wrote in message
...
[...]

Tom - I'm a bit surprised that only you replied. Typos from my

previous post corrected here. - Jim.

I responded at length, but it apparently disappeared into cyber space. The
computer, the Internet and Usenet are all terribly flawed and I can't be
bothered repeating my words of wisdom because of a ****ed-up technology.

Look in your "Sent" and "Drafts" email folders.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
  #9  
Old July 6th 11, 01:14 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
Edward Dolan
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 14,212
Default Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective

"Tm Shermn _" " wrote in message
...
On 7/5/2011 10:47 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
wrote in message
...
[...]

Tom - I'm a bit surprised that only you replied. Typos from my

previous post corrected here. - Jim.

I responded at length, but it apparently disappeared into cyber space.
The
computer, the Internet and Usenet are all terribly flawed and I can't be
bothered repeating my words of wisdom because of a ****ed-up technology.

Look in your "Sent" and "Drafts" email folders.


It was "Sent", so why did not Jim McNamara see it? If you saw it, why not
say so instead of being so cryptic?

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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Old July 6th 11, 06:45 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
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Default Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective

"Tm Shermn _" " wrote in message
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On 7/2/2011 1:43 PM, JimmyMac wrote:

[...]
Like it or not, Internet forums commonly undergo an evolutionary
process regardless of whether they are moderated or unmoderated. The
natural life cycle of an Internet forum, with its various phases,
might be best summed up as follows:

1. Declaration of Enthusiasm - Subscribers introduce themselves and
gush over how wonderful it is to have encountered kindred spirits.

2. Origin of Evangelism - Participants moan about how the forum
consists of far too few members and brainstorming ensues to initiate
recruitment strategies.

3. Expansion of Community - An ever increasing number of interested
parties subscribe and contribute to the forum. Lengthy threads
develop (some more relevant than others).

4. Emergence of Camaraderie - Information and advice is exchanged
(some empirically founded ... some just anecdotal nonsense).
Friendships are forged. Members rib one another, but all in good
fun. New subscribers are welcomed and newbies. Both newcomers and
veterans alike are receptive to asking questions, providing answers,
and sharing experiences.

1998 to 2001


The above will never occur again on ANY forums. The computer, the Internet
and Usenet are now old and tired and we are all disillusioned and revolted
to say the least.

5. Genesis of Disenchantment - The volume of postings increases
dramatically. Not all threads are of interest to all participants.
Members pitch a bitch about signal-to-noise ratio, off-topic threads,
me too posts, forged and spoofed identities, forwarding of private
emails, and other violations of internet forum netiquette. Member #1
threatens to unsubscribe if things don't change for the better.
Member #2 aligns himself with Member #1. Member #3 disagrees with
both Members #1 and #2. Member #4 suggests that Members #1, #2, and
#3 should lighten up. Flame wars erupt and adversaries emerge.
Bandwidth is sacrificed as an abundance of postings proliferate in an
effort to resolve differences and restore some semblance of order.
During this particular phase, many a delete key gets more than its
share of abuse and filtering and killfiles are implemented.

The general attitude in the US after the false-flag attacks of Sept. 11,
2001 and the arrival of Ed Dolan [1].

6. Stagnation of Growth - The purists castigate members who ask an old
question or respond humorously to a serious post. Newcomers are
rebuffed and discouraged. SPAM posts, trolls and stalkers dominate
the forum. Traffic volume subsides considerably and is generally
confined to minor topics. Many relevant issues are communicated via
private emails. Some members turn in their membership cards in a huff
and the remaining members continue to participate in phases #4 and/or
#5 above.

Flight to the nanny forum.


Phases 5 and 6 is all I have ever known.

7. Salvation from Destruction - Someone like me pounds away at the
keyboard composing a post such as this one in an effort to stir the
juices of those members who find themselves entrenched in the quagmire
of phase #4 and/or #5 above ... mostly #5 in hopes of resurection ;-)


No resurrection is possible since everyone is old and tired, disgusted,
disillusioned and revolted.

People these days are not satisfied with plain text, despite Usenet being
my better to use than web-based forums.

Less is indeed more.

Well, at least this posting should prove to be a thought provoking
departure from the norm and hopefully sheds some light on the nature
of the beast we have come to love and hate ... the internet forum.
Perhaps I should have added a pahse nuber 8 (Fight of Forum), when
hope is abandoned, forum flight ensues and membership dwindles.


Most of the former posters seem happier in an environment when a moderator
steps in and squelches things at the first sign of spirited discourse.

One cannot also ignore most ISPs dropping Usenet out of liability
concerns, which limits new participation, and is responsible for much of
the decline in Usenet. This was a foolish decision, as the binary groups
(containing "pr0n" and "warez") could have been dropped, while retaining
the text only groups.

[1] Cross-posted to rec.bicycles.soc, since it seems unfair to talk about
a person behind his back.


ARBR was always a small group and TM ruined what was left of it with his
nonsense. I only monitor RBS now since Mr. Vandeman posts to this group.
Between the two of us we manage to keep the mountain bikers off balance. Mr.
Sherman is also kind enough to post to RBS which means I continue to have
the pleasure of kicking his dumb ass.

Life is good!

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


 




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