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  #41  
Old July 25th 11, 02:37 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
Edward Dolan
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""Tm [email protected]"" " wrote in message
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On 7/22/2011 4:05 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
I know it is more expensive than regular grown food. Billions of people
would starve to death if they had to depend on organic grown food.[...]


Wrong again. The so called "green revolution" of introducing
herbicide/pesticide intensive mono-crop agriculture into the developing
nations has been a disaster for both food production and the livelihood of
farmers. Diverse organic farming produces *more* food per acre than
industrial farming.


The green revolution is what has prevented many millions of people from
starving to death. Malthus is ever correct. His predictions have just been
postponed because of things like the "green revolution " which he could not
have foreseen. Mass starvation is in everyone's future.

However, the multinational agribusinesses and their banking backers have
made out like bandits at the expense of the proletariat.


Why can't Africa feed itself?

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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  #42  
Old July 25th 11, 02:40 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
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On Jul 24, 1:43*pm, "Tm [email protected]" ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/22/2011 4:05 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
* [...]

I know it is more expensive than regular grown food. Billions of people
would starve to death if they had to depend on organic grown food.[...]


Wrong again. *The so called "green revolution" of introducing
herbicide/pesticide intensive mono-crop agriculture into the developing
nations has been a disaster for both food production and the livelihood
of farmers. *Diverse organic farming produces *more* food per acre than
industrial farming.

However, the multinational agribusinesses and their banking backers have
made out like bandits at the expense of the proletariat.


Ed wants to talk about the expense of food? Has the oracle of
Minnesota ever taken into consideration the rise in the cost of
health care that has been a directly attributed to food laced with
herbicides, pesticides, hormones, antibiotics, etc. the thing is it
has never been a requirement for Ed to know what he is talking about
before running his mouth, spewing errant, unsubstantiated opinions.
Tis the nature of troglodyte troll.

--
Tm Shermn - 42.435731N, 83.985007W
I am a vehicular cyclist.


  #43  
Old July 25th 11, 02:41 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
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""Tm [email protected]"" " wrote in message
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On 7/21/2011 10:07 PM, JimmyMac wrote:
[...]
What we have here is a logical fallacy know as Argumentum ad nauseam
(argument to the point of disgust; i.e., by repetition). This is the
fallacy of trying to prove something by saying it again and again, but
no matter how many times one repeats something, it will not become any
more true than it was with the first utterance. Repetition is no
substitute for argumentation. I gave specific example to substantiate
what I said. You merely repeated your fallacious opinion without
offering any substantiation in support of your position ... typical!!!
[...]


Please recall that Mr. Ed Dolan is a fan of Faux Noos, which uses the
repetitive big lie technique (when it is not spying on and blackmailing
public figures).


Mr. Tom Sherman is a dupe of the liberal mass media. Even worse, he reads
crap like the Huffington Post. No wonder he is such a jerk!

Fox News - Fair and Balanced!

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #44  
Old July 25th 11, 02:45 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
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""Tm [email protected]"" " wrote in message
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On 7/20/2011 11:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
Nope, they are all basically the same. Meat is meat! If food is not safe,
the FDA will not allow it on the market.[...]


Mr. Ed Dolan's confidence in the FDA is unwarranted by facts.


We have got the best FDA that money can buy.

[...]
I am planning to die of cardiovascular disease myself. In fact, I will be
highly chagrined if cancer gets me first.


Or you could suffer a case of terminal pigheadedness.


Cranky old men tend to live forever.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #45  
Old July 25th 11, 03:00 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
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""Tm [email protected]"" " wrote in message
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On 7/20/2011 5:59 PM, JimmyMac wrote:
[...]
FACT: I have wasted entirely too much time on you [Ed Dolan]. You are
uninformed, opinionated and have nothing to base your opinions on and
are not even open to being enlightened. Nor will you invest the time.
[...]


butbutbut, it is fun to poke Mr. Ed Dolan with a figurative stick.


Neither one of you do it well, which tells me that I am still an enigma to
both of you. Jim McNamara is repetitive to a fault and is basically one long
whine and Tom Sherman is always an aside, if not a side issue altogether.
Very strange that no one has ever been able to directly confront me on
anything which bothers me in the slightest. It must be because I am a
slippery customer indeed.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




  #46  
Old July 25th 11, 03:51 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
...
On Jul 23, 7:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message

...
On Jul 22, 4:05 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]

I stopped learning anything new several decades ago. It must be awful to
be
a student all of your life!


Wise men become wise men by continuing the learning process throughout


their entire life. You have opted for academic stagnation ... an
unfortunate choice.

I knew an academic type who decided to learn a new language at age 70.
Why?
Because he wanted to keep his mind sharp. He died a year later. He would
have been better off contemplating the eternal verities like me instead of
learning a new language which he would never use.
[...]


What we have here is the logical fallacy know as a red herring ...

introducing irrelevant facts or arguments to distract from the
question at hand.

It is a dead-on point. I am saying that it is not worthwhile after a certain
age to bother learning anything new since it will all come to naught anyway.
Learning is for the young when there is time enough for it to be put to good
use. The only one who is NEVER getting the point is yourself!

There is no end to learning if you lived to be a thousand. After a certain
point, wisdom becomes foolishness! It is why intellectuals are universally
held in contempt by the run of mankind. Look at Tom Sherman for instance. He
has educated himself into an idiot! Be careful you do not do the same about
foods and nutrition.
[...]

Your pursuit of alternative treatments will keep you mentally occupied and
who knows, you may even hit on something. But the chances are that it will
be a dead end. That is why they remain forever alternative treatments.


What we have here is a logical fallacy know as a non sequitor or

fallacy of stating, as a conclusion, something that does not strictly
follow from a premises. Many a conventional medical treatment is
literally a "dead end" and that is what gave birth to and popularized
alternatve treatments. Unfortunately, many are quackery that appeal
to the desperate. I am not interested in alternative treatment, but
rather complimentary means in a holistic approach to the treatment of
my disease. I guess the subtlety of the none too subtle difference
escaped your attention.

Yes, the subtlety does indeed escape me. It is an alternative to
conventional medical practice and treatment. As long as you are not relying
on it to the exclusion of what is KNOWN, I suppose it will not do any harm.
But it is not KNOWN that it will do any good either.
[...]

You probably know more useless information than I know, but all the
pertinent information relating to prostate cancer can be summed up in a
rather small booklet.


In your jaded, opinion based upon what litlle you know you forgot to

add. I know more useful information than you do regarding prostate
cancer. That much has become abundantly clear.

You value your learning too highly. You value that class you took in logic
while at college too highly too.

Read the small booklet and you will know all you need
to know. Leave everything else to the medical researchers. If what they
find
out is any good, it will make its way into the booklet.


Saying something is so doesn't make it so, even if you are the ones

saying ... especially if you are the one saying it. What never
ceases to amaze me is your willingness to prove beyond question what
an incredibly close minded block head you are. Little booklets are
merely primers produced for people with your abysmal level of
absorption.

Those little booklets will tell the rest of us who are not doctors all we
will ever have to know. Sometimes it is all the doctors know too.

Always remember, a little learning is a dangerous thing!

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  #47  
Old July 25th 11, 03:55 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
Edward Dolan
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
...
On Jul 24, 1:43 pm, "Tm [email protected]" ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/22/2011 4:05 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]


I know it is more expensive than regular grown food. Billions of people
would starve to death if they had to depend on organic grown food.[...]


Wrong again. The so called "green revolution" of introducing
herbicide/pesticide intensive mono-crop agriculture into the developing
nations has been a disaster for both food production and the livelihood
of farmers. Diverse organic farming produces *more* food per acre than
industrial farming.

However, the multinational agribusinesses and their banking backers have
made out like bandits at the expense of the proletariat.


Ed wants to talk about the expense of food? Has the oracle of

Minnesota ever taken into consideration the rise in the cost of
health care that has been a directly attributed to food laced with
herbicides, pesticides, hormones, antibiotics, etc. the thing is it
has never been a requirement for Ed to know what he is talking about
before running his mouth, spewing errant, unsubstantiated opinions.
Tis the nature of troglodyte troll.

The cost of organically grown foods at the supermarket is beyond the means
of the average consumer. Only upper middle class types can afford it.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  #48  
Old July 25th 11, 04:04 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
Edward Dolan
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
...
On Jul 24, 1:36 pm, "Tm [email protected]" ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 7/20/2011 11:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
Nope, they are all basically the same. Meat is meat! If food is not
safe,
the FDA will not allow it on the market.[...]


Mr. Ed Dolan's confidence in the FDA is unwarranted by facts.


You think? ;^) Don't use that word (FACT) around Ed. He despises

facts. Just ask him. He is all bout opinion no matter how errant and
uncoroborated it is. Now thats a FACT!

The FACT is that these newsgroups are all about opinions and nothing else.
It is part of My Greatness that I realize that and part of Tom Sherman's
nerdiness that he doesn't. His facts have all been filtered via far left
wing crackpotism. They are not even worth reading, let alone responding to.

[...]
I am planning to die of cardiovascular disease myself. In fact, I will
be
highly chagrined if cancer gets me first.


Or you could suffer a case of terminal pigheadedness.


I hear you, but unfortunatel the rest of us suffer because of Ed's

terminal pigheadedness.

I can be persuaded to change my mind, but not by ideologues like Tom
Sherman.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  #49  
Old July 28th 11, 06:49 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
JimmyMac
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On Jul 24, 9:00*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
""Tm [email protected]"" " wrote in message

...

On 7/20/2011 5:59 PM, JimmyMac wrote:
[...]
FACT: I have wasted entirely too much time on you [Ed Dolan]. *You are
uninformed, opinionated and have nothing to base your opinions on and
are not even open to being enlightened. *Nor will you invest the time.
[...]


butbutbut, it is fun to poke Mr. Ed Dolan with a figurative stick.


Neither one of you do it well, which tells me that I am still an enigma to
both of you. Jim McNamara is repetitive to a fault and is basically one long
whine and Tom Sherman is always an aside, if not a side issue altogether.
Very strange that no one has ever been able to directly confront me on
anything which bothers me in the slightest. It must be because I am a
slippery customer indeed.


Stranger still is your inability to recognize the many who have
confronted you many times. Delluson is such a comfort. Just ask Head
swollen Ed Dolan. The Queen of Denial,


Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #50  
Old July 28th 11, 06:58 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.soc
JimmyMac
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On Jul 24, 9:51*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message

...
On Jul 23, 7:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:



"JimmyMac" wrote in message


...
On Jul 22, 4:05 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]


I stopped learning anything new several decades ago. It must be awful to
be
a student all of your life!
Wise men become wise men by continuing the learning process throughout


their entire life. You have opted for academic stagnation ... an
unfortunate choice.


I knew an academic type who decided to learn a new language at age 70.
Why?
Because he wanted to keep his mind sharp. He died a year later. He would
have been better off contemplating the eternal verities like me instead of
learning a new language which he would never use.
[...]
What we have here is the logical fallacy know as a red herring ...


introducing irrelevant facts or arguments to distract from the
question at hand.

It is a dead-on point. I am saying that it is not worthwhile after a certain
age to bother learning anything new since it will all come to naught anyway.
Learning is for the young when there is time enough for it to be put to good
use. The only one who is NEVER getting the point is yourself!

There is no end to learning if you lived to be a thousand. After a certain
point, wisdom becomes foolishness! It is why intellectuals are universally
held in contempt by the run of mankind. Look at Tom Sherman for instance. He
has educated himself into an idiot! Be careful you do not do the same about
foods and nutrition.
[...]



I trust that you now feel better after you nonsensical rant.

Your pursuit of alternative treatments will keep you mentally occupied and
who knows, you may even hit on something. But the chances are that it will
be a dead end. That is why they remain forever alternative treatments.
What we have here is a logical fallacy know as a non sequitor or


fallacy of stating, as a conclusion, something that does not strictly
follow from a premises. *Many a conventional medical treatment is
literally a "dead end" and that is what gave birth to and popularized
alternative treatments. *Unfortunately, many are quackery that appeal
to the desperate. *I am not interested in alternative treatment, but
rather complimentary means in a holistic approach to the treatment of
my disease. *I guess the subtlety of the none too subtle difference
escaped your attention.

Yes, the subtlety does indeed escape me. It is an alternative to
conventional medical practice and treatment. As long as you are not relying
on it to the exclusion of what is KNOWN, I suppose it will not do any harm.
But it is not KNOWN that it will do any good either.
[...]



Some of the supplemetns I take have proved their worth in clincal
trials, so they are kow to be of benefit.

You probably know more useless information than I know, but all the
pertinent information relating to prostate cancer can be summed up in a
rather small booklet.
In your jaded, opinion based upon what little you know you forgot to


add. *I know more useful information than you do regarding prostate
cancer. *That much has become abundantly clear.

You value your learning too highly. You value that class you took in logic
while at college too highly too.


AND ... You value your own opinion far too highly!!!.

Read the small booklet and you will know all you need
to know. Leave everything else to the medical researchers. If what they
find
out is any good, it will make its way into the booklet.
Saying something is so doesn't make it so, even if you are the ones


saying ... especially if you are the one saying it. * What never
ceases to amaze me is your willingness to prove beyond question what
an incredibly close minded block head you are. *Little booklets are
merely primers produced for people with your abysmal level of
absorption.

Those little booklets will tell the rest of us who are not doctors all we
will ever have to know.


Only if that is what little bit one cares to know.

Sometimes it is all the doctors know too.


Opinion stated as fact.

Always remember, a little learning is a dangerous thing!


With a little learning, you might not be such a close-minded,
opinionated blockhead.
-
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


 




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