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  #31  
Old May 22nd 20, 05:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mike Collins
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On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a car
approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about cycles -
sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong with their
behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.


You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim about
"attempted murder". A police report would do.


I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since it
feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.


With Lime St taxi rank on LN st there is a lot of traffic heading uphill after the London train arrives. On that day a parked van was blocking the downhill traffic and one driver decided driving on the footway straight at a pedestrian was the best solution.
Great Newton street was even worse in the rush hour because of the resident parking turning it into a single lane road motorists thought it is acceptable to turn the footway into a second lane and expected pedestrians to move out of their way.
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  #32  
Old May 22nd 20, 05:34 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 22/05/2020 17:14, Mike Collins wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a car
approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about cycles -
sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong with their
behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim about
"attempted murder". A police report would do.


I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since it
feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.


With Lime St taxi rank on LN st there is a lot of traffic heading uphill after the London train arrives. On that day a parked van was blocking the downhill traffic and one driver decided driving on the footway straight at a pedestrian was the best solution.
Great Newton street was even worse in the rush hour because of the resident parking turning it into a single lane road motorists thought it is acceptable to turn the footway into a second lane and expected pedestrians to move out of their way.


Do you remember that programme "Jackanory"?
  #33  
Old May 22nd 20, 08:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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On 17:14 22 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a
car
approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about cycles
- sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong with
their behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim
about "attempted murder". A police report would do.


I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since
it


feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.


With Lime St taxi rank on LN st there is a lot of traffic heading uphill
after the London train arrives. On that day a parked van was blocking
the downhill traffic and one driver decided driving on the footway
straight at a pedestrian was the best solution. Great Newton street was
even worse in the rush hour because of the resident parking turning it
into a single lane road motorists thought it is acceptable to turn the
footway into a second lane and expected pedestrians to move out of their
way.


You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim about
"attempted murder".
  #34  
Old May 22nd 20, 11:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 22/05/2020 17:14, Mike Collins wrote:

With Lime St taxi rank on LN st there is a lot of traffic heading
uphill after the London train arrives. On that day a parked van was
blocking the downhill traffic and one driver decided driving on the
footway straight at a pedestrian was the best solution. Great Newton
street was even worse in the rush hour because of the resident
parking turning it into a single lane road motorists thought it is
acceptable to turn the footway into a second lane and expected
pedestrians to move out of their way.


It's interesting to go to Lord Nelson St on StreetView and see a line of
bollards along the pavements.

Based on a few places near me, I don't think councils spend money
putting bollards in to make the place look pretty.
  #35  
Old May 23rd 20, 01:42 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 22/05/2020 23:26, TMS320 wrote:
On 22/05/2020 17:14, Mike Collins wrote:

With Lime St taxi rank on LN st there is a lot of traffic heading
uphill after the London train arrives. On that day a parked van was
blocking the downhill traffic and one driver decided driving on the
footway straight at a pedestrian was the best solution. Great Newton
street was even worse in the rush hour because of the resident
parking turning it into a single lane road motorists thought it is
acceptable to turn the footway into a second lane and expected
pedestrians to move out of their way.


It's interesting to go to Lord Nelson St on StreetView and see a line of
bollards along the pavements.

Based on a few places near me, I don't think councils spend money
putting bollards in to make the place look pretty.


it's to prevent parking half-on the footway (a very worthwhile aim) and
also to create obstacles for pavement cyclists.

  #36  
Old May 23rd 20, 09:19 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 23/05/2020 01:42, JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2020 23:26, TMS320 wrote:
On 22/05/2020 17:14, Mike Collins wrote:


With Lime St taxi rank on LN st there is a lot of traffic heading
uphill after the London train arrives. On that day a parked van was
blocking the downhill traffic and one driver decided driving on the
footway straight at a pedestrian was the best solution. Great Newton
street was even worse in the rush hour because of the resident
parking turning it into a single lane road motorists thought it is
acceptable to turn the footway into a second lane and expected
pedestrians to move out of their way.


It's interesting to go to Lord Nelson St on StreetView and see a line
of bollards along the pavements.

Based on a few places near me, I don't think councils spend money
putting bollards in to make the place look pretty.


it's to prevent parking half-on the footway (a very worthwhile aim) and
also to create obstacles for pavement cyclists.


There might be some of that too.
  #37  
Old May 23rd 20, 04:52 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mike Collins
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On Friday, 22 May 2020 17:33:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2020 17:14, Mike Collins wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a car
approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about cycles -
sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong with their
behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim about
"attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since it
feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story..


With Lime St taxi rank on LN st there is a lot of traffic heading uphill after the London train arrives. On that day a parked van was blocking the downhill traffic and one driver decided driving on the footway straight at a pedestrian was the best solution.
Great Newton street was even worse in the rush hour because of the resident parking turning it into a single lane road motorists thought it is acceptable to turn the footway into a second lane and expected pedestrians to move out of their way.


Do you remember that programme "Jackanory"?


Unlike you I don't live in a fantasy world where motorists have to duck when going under low bridges so their haloes don't get damaged.
  #38  
Old May 23rd 20, 08:33 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 23/05/2020 16:52, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 22 May 2020 17:33:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2020 17:14, Mike Collins wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a car
approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about cycles -
sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong with their
behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim about
"attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since it
feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.

With Lime St taxi rank on LN st there is a lot of traffic heading uphill after the London train arrives. On that day a parked van was blocking the downhill traffic and one driver decided driving on the footway straight at a pedestrian was the best solution.
Great Newton street was even worse in the rush hour because of the resident parking turning it into a single lane road motorists thought it is acceptable to turn the footway into a second lane and expected pedestrians to move out of their way.


Do you remember that programme "Jackanory"?


Unlike you I don't live in a fantasy world where motorists have to duck when going under low bridges so their haloes don't get damaged.


A fantasy world is exactly where you dwell.
  #39  
Old May 23rd 20, 09:02 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 12:38:18 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:

If a cyclist jumps a red light then it's wrong. It doesn't make any
difference how many murders, fatal crashes or armed robberies occur that
day.


Actually it does. If there are 1000's of car drivers speeding along a certain stretch of road, usually the police will allocate resources to address these blatant transgressions of the law by placing safety cameras there. If a cyclist passes through a red light with nobody around to see it, nothing will happen. The police have only a finite amount of resourses and have to prioritise them according to their impact on society.

Speeding drivers outrank cyclists passing a light at red.
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Old May 23rd 20, 09:13 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 12:38:18 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:

If a cyclist jumps a red light then it's wrong. It doesn't make any
difference how many murders, fatal crashes or armed robberies occur that
day.


Actually it does. If there are 1000's of car drivers speeding along a certain stretch of road, usually the police will allocate resources to address these blatant transgressions of the law by placing safety cameras there. If a cyclist passes through a red light with nobody around to see it, nothing will happen. The police have only a finite amount of resources and have to prioritise them according to their impact on society.

Speeding drivers outrank cyclists passing a light at red.
 




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