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On 09:58 25 May 2020, Paul George said:

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a
car approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about
cycles - sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong
with their behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim
about "attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since
it feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.

When did you last visit Lord Nelson St?

You can now visit Lord Nelson Street anytime on Google streetview. When did
you last visit?

On 01:28 24 May 2020, Mike Collins said:
On Sunday, 24 May 2020 01:19:32 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 23/05/2020 22:22, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 23 May 2020 20:33:12 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 23/05/2020 16:52, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 22 May 2020 17:33:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2020 17:14, Mike Collins wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:
On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never
had a car approach me driving along a footway. I can't say
that about cycles - sometimes a whole family, who can never
see anything wrong with their behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking
up Lord Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove
at me on the footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted
murder was he was just trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched
claim about "attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my
life , because my family (both sides) have residential and other
roots in the area dating from before WW2 right up until the
1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress
since it feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways
with limited turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the
fabrication of his story.

With Lime St taxi rank on LN st there is a lot of traffic heading
uphill after the London train arrives. On that day a parked van
was blocking the downhill traffic and one driver decided driving
on the footway straight at a pedestrian was the best solution.

Great Newton street was even worse in the rush hour because of
the resident parking turning it into a single lane road motorists
thought it is acceptable to turn the footway into a second lane
and expected pedestrians to move out of their way.

Do you remember that programme "Jackanory"?

Unlike you I don't live in a fantasy world where motorists have to
duck when going under low bridges so their haloes don't get
damaged.

A fantasy world is exactly where you dwell.

So you DO believe that no motorist in history has ever broken a law.
Be careful in case Captain Hook is reading your posts, he may be
hiding under your bed tonight.

Not at all. He'll be driving an imaginary car along the pavement
directly at you. Even if the pavement is only four weet wide.

This is pointless. Let's just leave at you believe in fairies, I believe
in facts.

Michael, I've read through this thread as an uninvolved observer and my
verdict is you have exaggerated some minor incident and then continued to
embellish your story. You lacked any facts to support your version of
events, so you foolishly doubled down on your lurid allegations, including
a claim of attempted murder, despite the evidence Nugent stacked up
against you.

By attempting to argue your fantasy version against Nugent's personal
knowledge, he made mincemeat out of you. Let it be a lesson.

I've now got enough mincemeat to last until Christmas, so could you please
choose your next story more carefully as I don't want to add to my
overflowing supply.

On Monday, 25 May 2020 10:15:17 UTC+1, Pamela wrote:
On 09:58 25 May 2020, Paul George said:

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a
car approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about
cycles - sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong
with their behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim
about "attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since
it feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story..

When did you last visit Lord Nelson St?

You can now visit Lord Nelson Street anytime on Google streetview. When did
you last visit?

February. I would have used it to get to work on Friday and would be using it for the same reason tomorrow if we weren't under lockdown. The top end of Lord Nelson St was significantly modified about 20 years ago when Seymour St was changed from dual to single carriageway. Lord Nelson St used to end at St Vincent St but has now been extended. I am guessing this happened after Nugent's aunt moved out. The new footway section beyond the Liner car park is plenty wide enough for a car.

On 25/05/2020 09:58, Paul George wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a car
approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about cycles -
sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong with their
behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim about
"attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since it
feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.

When did you last visit Lord Nelson St?

I was there some time in the late summer of 2019. I haven't been in
Liverpool during 2020.

On 25/05/2020 10:14, Pamela wrote:
On 09:58 25 May 2020, Paul George said:

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a
car approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about
cycles - sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong
with their behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim
about "attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since
it feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.

When did you last visit Lord Nelson St?

You can now visit Lord Nelson Street anytime on Google streetview. When did
you last visit?

Yes, I have done that, quite recently, in order to check whether the one
way streets into which Lord Nelson Street feeds had had their traffic
directions changed (not that such a thing would make any difference to a
typical cyclist).

On 25/05/2020 14:34, Paul George wrote:
On Monday, 25 May 2020 10:15:17 UTC+1, Pamela wrote:
On 09:58 25 May 2020, Paul George said:

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a
car approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about
cycles - sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong
with their behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim
about "attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since
it feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.

When did you last visit Lord Nelson St?

You can now visit Lord Nelson Street anytime on Google streetview. When did
you last visit?

February. I would have used it to get to work on Friday and would be using it for the same reason tomorrow if we weren't under lockdown. The top end of Lord Nelson St was significantly modified about 20 years ago when Seymour St was changed from dual to single carriageway. Lord Nelson St used to end at St Vincent St but has now been extended. I am guessing this happened after Nugent's aunt moved out. The new footway section beyond the Liner car park is plenty wide enough for a car.

Seymour Street a dual carriageway?

How wide would you say it is between kerbs?

On Monday, 25 May 2020 14:59:08 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 25/05/2020 14:34, Paul George wrote:
On Monday, 25 May 2020 10:15:17 UTC+1, Pamela wrote:
On 09:58 25 May 2020, Paul George said:

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a
car approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about
cycles - sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong
with their behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim
about "attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since
it feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.

When did you last visit Lord Nelson St?

You can now visit Lord Nelson Street anytime on Google streetview. When did
you last visit?

February. I would have used it to get to work on Friday and would be using it for the same reason tomorrow if we weren't under lockdown. The top end of Lord Nelson St was significantly modified about 20 years ago when Seymour St was changed from dual to single carriageway. Lord Nelson St used to end at St Vincent St but has now been extended. I am guessing this happened after Nugent's aunt moved out. The new footway section beyond the Liner car park is plenty wide enough for a car.

Seymour Street a dual carriageway?

How wide would you say it is between kerbs?

I don't know what is was called before but in the past when you walked from School of Trop Med down Pembroke Place to Lime St Station at the junction where Pem Pl turned into London Road there was a pub on the left and traffic split around it. That was all changed 20+ years ago and Lord Nelson St was part of the change.

On Monday, 25 May 2020 11:34:26 UTC+1, Pamela wrote:
On 01:28 24 May 2020, Mike Collins said:
On Sunday, 24 May 2020 01:19:32 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 23/05/2020 22:22, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 23 May 2020 20:33:12 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 23/05/2020 16:52, Mike Collins wrote:
On Friday, 22 May 2020 17:33:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2020 17:14, Mike Collins wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:
On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never
had a car approach me driving along a footway. I can't say
that about cycles - sometimes a whole family, who can never
see anything wrong with their behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking
up Lord Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove
at me on the footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted
murder was he was just trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched
claim about "attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my
life , because my family (both sides) have residential and other
roots in the area dating from before WW2 right up until the
1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress
since it feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways
with limited turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the
fabrication of his story.

With Lime St taxi rank on LN st there is a lot of traffic heading
uphill after the London train arrives. On that day a parked van
was blocking the downhill traffic and one driver decided driving
on the footway straight at a pedestrian was the best solution.

Great Newton street was even worse in the rush hour because of
the resident parking turning it into a single lane road motorists
thought it is acceptable to turn the footway into a second lane
and expected pedestrians to move out of their way.

Do you remember that programme "Jackanory"?

Unlike you I don't live in a fantasy world where motorists have to
duck when going under low bridges so their haloes don't get
damaged.

A fantasy world is exactly where you dwell.

So you DO believe that no motorist in history has ever broken a law.
Be careful in case Captain Hook is reading your posts, he may be
hiding under your bed tonight.

Not at all. He'll be driving an imaginary car along the pavement
directly at you. Even if the pavement is only four weet wide.

This is pointless. Let's just leave at you believe in fairies, I believe
in facts.

Michael, I've read through this thread as an uninvolved observer and my
verdict is you have exaggerated some minor incident and then continued to
embellish your story. You lacked any facts to support your version of
events, so you foolishly doubled down on your lurid allegations, including
a claim of attempted murder, despite the evidence Nugent stacked up
against you.

By attempting to argue your fantasy version against Nugent's personal
knowledge, he made mincemeat out of you. Let it be a lesson.

I've now got enough mincemeat to last until Christmas, so could you please
choose your next story more carefully as I don't want to add to my
overflowing supply.

Due to lockdown restrictions Troll food is not an essential item so I am afraid you will just have to forage for whatever you can find.

On Monday, 25 May 2020 14:46:28 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 25/05/2020 09:58, Paul George wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a car
approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about cycles -
sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong with their
behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim about
"attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since it
feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.

When did you last visit Lord Nelson St?

I was there some time in the late summer of 2019. I haven't been in
Liverpool during 2020.

And has it changed since your aunt lived there?

For example Pembroke Place from Daulby St to Anson St used to be one way, now it is two way.

I believe Mike Collins.
Attempted Murder may be a bit of an exaggeration because it was 'Only a motoring offence'.

On 25/05/2020 15:43, Paul George wrote:
On Monday, 25 May 2020 14:59:08 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 25/05/2020 14:34, Paul George wrote:
On Monday, 25 May 2020 10:15:17 UTC+1, Pamela wrote:
On 09:58 25 May 2020, Paul George said:

On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:05:09 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 20/05/2020 11:21, Pamela wrote:
On 20:18 19 May 2020, Mike Collins said:

On Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:44:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

True. And I too can say it as a pedestrian. But I have never had a
car approach me driving along a footway. I can't say that about
cycles - sometimes a whole family, who can never see anything wrong
with their behaviour.


When I had the misfortune to work in Liverpool I was walking up Lord
Nelson Street from Lime Street Station and a car drove at me on the
footway. The moronist's excuse for attempted murder was he was just
trying to keep the traffic flowing.

You failed to provide any evidence to support that far-fetched claim
about "attempted murder". A police report would do.

I know Lord Nelson Street *very* well. I have known it all my life,
because my family (both sides) have residential and other roots in the
area dating from before WW2 right up until the 1970s.

There is no appreciable traffic in Lord Nelson Street. It is a
destination, not a route. Traffic using it cannot make progress since
it feeds back into one-way streets and dual-carriageways with limited
turns. MC's not knowing that led him into the fabrication of his story.

When did you last visit Lord Nelson St?

You can now visit Lord Nelson Street anytime on Google streetview. When did
you last visit?

February. I would have used it to get to work on Friday and would be using it for the same reason tomorrow if we weren't under lockdown. The top end of Lord Nelson St was significantly modified about 20 years ago when Seymour St was changed from dual to single carriageway. Lord Nelson St used to end at St Vincent St but has now been extended. I am guessing this happened after Nugent's aunt moved out. The new footway section beyond the Liner car park is plenty wide enough for a car.

Seymour Street a dual carriageway?

How wide would you say it is between kerbs?

I don't know what is was called before but in the past when you walked from School of Trop Med down Pembroke Place to Lime St Station at the junction where Pem Pl turned into London Road there was a pub on the left and traffic split around it. That was all changed 20+ years ago and Lord Nelson St was part of the change.

Yes, the legendary Swan (now gone of course), at the junction of London
Road and Norton Street with Seymour Street and St Vincent Street (then
part of a one-way system, never a dual carriageway).