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Police pick on cyclist
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:44:44 -0800 (PST) someone who may be calum
wrote this:- Even the offender accepted his ticket. Don't let your imagination run away with you again with any nonsense that he was threatened or pressurised to accept it. Good to see that's the best counter "argument". However, after hours in the cells many people give in, simply so their family and friends are not too worried. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:53:34 -0800 (PST) someone who may be calum
wrote this:- We don't know that *any* pressure was put on him. Incorrect. He was lifted and put in the cells. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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On Dec 5, 2:01*pm, David Hansen
wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:44:44 -0800 (PST) someone who may be calum wrote this:- Even the offender accepted his ticket. Don't let your imagination run away with you again with any nonsense that he was threatened or pressurised to accept it. Good to see that's the best counter "argument". However, after hours in the cells many people give in, simply so their family and friends are not too worried. Are you suggesting that he was kept in custody until such times as he accepted a fixed penalty notice for riding without lights? Calum |
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On Dec 5, 2:03*pm, David Hansen
wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:53:34 -0800 (PST) someone who may be calum wrote this:- We don't know that *any* pressure was put on him. Incorrect. He was lifted and put in the cells. What was he arrested for? Calum |
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On Dec 4, 12:13*pm, David Hansen
wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:58:35 -0000 someone who may be "pk" wrote this:- It was the cyclist who was dim for choosing to get lippy. No, the police officers were dim for continuing when it was demonstrated that their assertions were incorrect. They should have apologised and got on with their jobs, instead of persecuting someone who (it appears from the report) hadn't committed a crime. Does anyone remember Sniper???'s story of riding to get some DIY materials and being stopped by a police officer? This may be a similar situation or the rider may just have been obsterperous enough to annoy the police officer. |
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:08:42 +0000, Phil W Lee
phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk wrote: snip As has been pointed out: we don't know what pressure was put on him to accept the FPN. Well the length of time he was (unlawfully?) detained indicates the level of duress that was required before he would "accept" it. I might have guessed that Anchor would be along with some of his fine legal advice. Perhaps you could explain just why you think he was unlawfully detained. Here's a clue : he had already refused to give his name and address - he had been arrested - does that feature in your thought process? Is three hours excessive to wait to interview someone. Perhaps they were checking his background - was the information asked for, which he had eventually given them, being checked. I'm sorry I have to draw your and other's attention to these points - I don't want to imply that you have not had any legal training. How's the top-up course going? -- Commenting on a legal gate in a public park: I'd think it comes under the heading of "causing an obstruction", and should be investigated by the police as such. Phil W(anker) Lee - well known Psycholist |
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On 7 Dec 2008 14:55:34 -0000, judith smith
wrote: judith smith wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:42:21 +0000, David Hansen Why did he not provide his name and address when asked for it - they believed that he had committed an offence. It sounds like it was his own fault that he got arrested. /| /| _____________________ ||__|| | | / O O\__ | PLEASE DO NOT | / \ | FEED THE TROLLS | / \ \|_____________________| / _ \ \ || / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | _|| / / \ |____| || / | | | --| | | | |____ --| * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ | || / _ \\ | / ` * / \_ /- | | | * ___ C_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ Please stop forging my address. -- Many of the facts below in an article seem, on the face of it, to suggest that helmets are not worthwhile. This could not be further from the truth; helmets are an excellent idea. Children in particular should wear them every time they get on a bike. The point is, although there is no guarantee that a helmet will save your life if you come off, it's 100% certain that your helmet won't save your life if you're not wearing it. - Guy Chapman |
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On 7 Dec 2008 15:06:46 -0000, judith smith
wrote: judith smith wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:42:21 +0000, David Hansen Why did he not provide his name and address when asked for it - they believed that he had committed an offence. It sounds like it was his own fault that he got arrested. /| /| _____________________ ||__|| | | / O O\__ | PLEASE DO NOT | / \ | FEED THE TROLLS | / \ \|_____________________| / _ \ \ || / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | _|| / / \ |____| || / | | | --| | | | |____ --| * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ | || / _ \\ | / ` * / \_ /- | | | * ___ C_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ Please stop forging my address -- Many of the facts below in an article seem, on the face of it, to suggest that helmets are not worthwhile. This could not be further from the truth; helmets are an excellent idea. Children in particular should wear them every time they get on a bike. The point is, although there is no guarantee that a helmet will save your life if you come off, it's 100% certain that your helmet won't save your life if you're not wearing it. - Guy Chapman |
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:07:20 +0100, judith smith
wrote: judith smith wrote: snip I think that your real concern is that he is making you look rather silly with his sensible and cohesive argument. (I am not suggesting that that is his objective) /| /| _____________________ ||__|| | | / O O\__ | PLEASE DO NOT | / \ | FEED THE TROLLS | / \ \|_____________________| / _ \ \ || / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | _|| / / \ |____| || / | | | --| | | | |____ --| * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ | || / _ \\ | / ` * / \_ /- | | | * ___ C_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ -- Mr Chapman : please stop forging my email address. If you own up to doing so now - and apologise - I will accept your apology. -- You may find, if you provoke me enough, that I will do something I later regret. (Guy Chapman) You may find, if you provoke me, that I may do something which you later regret. (Judith Smith) |
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Doug wrote:
On 2 Dec, 14:11, Fod wrote: On 2 Dec, 12:30, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: On 2 Dec, 12:19, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: On 2 Dec, 10:15, Roger Thorpe wrote: Doug wrote: The irony is that by not having lights he was putting himself far more at risk of death from being hit by a driver than by being a danger to anyone else, unlike say a car with no lights. Well, Doug. Having very nearly ridden into an unlit cyclist a few times, I'd think it fair to say that the risk to others, including pedestrians is considerable. Roger Thorpe Well, Roger. Having been run down and injured by a driver who even failed to see my lights the risk to me was considerable and to no one else. That makes it alright then. As I said, the cyclist with no lights is more a danger to themself than to anyone else, unlike a motorist with no lights who is a danger to all, given the large mass and velocity difference. I'm sorry what is your point? That because an unlit car is more dangerous than a bike the unlit cyclist should be ignored? Roger Thorpe Doug justifies all dangerous behavior on bikes on the grounds that cars are more dangerous. Nope I am merely pointing out that motorists are raving hypocrites when they have the gall to accuse cyclists of dangerous behaviour. Its a bit like saying Hitler killed more people than car drives so that excuses all car car drivers... Well if you really want to get into your silly semantics again, it wasn't Hitler it was his minions who did the killing. Oh yes and it was us Brits who invented concentration camps. Over to you. Note the failure to differentiate between concentration camps and extermination camps. -- John Wright I used to drive a car a lot also. Duhg Bollen. It didn't happen. The whole thing was fabricated in a movie studio by Jewish film directors using realistic dummies to gain international sympathy and thus grab and retain a chunk of Arab territory and accumulate weapons of mass destruction with help from a complicit US. Duhg Bollens view of the Holocaust. Duhg Bollen promised a report on how Vince can reduce his carbon emissions by moving in November 2007. We're still waiting. |
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