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March 4th 21, 02:09 PM
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Traffic cops confirming riding two abreast is legal and safe leads to'road tax' whinging
Usual ignorant rants about a tax that was scrapped in 1937 as the DLVA confirmed.
Road Policing Scotland took to Twitter to explain to motorists that cycling two abreast is both legal and safer for everyone involved. They linked a video (link is external) featuring Chris Boardman which explains how riding single file can often make it harder for drivers to pass. Single file means a longer line of cyclists for a driver to overtake. If you're on this site you probably don't need me to explain that... However, not everyone saw the point of the educational video and instead took the opportunity to give the tired road tax comments another outing https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-23153 
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March 4th 21, 02:56 PM
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Traffic cops confirming riding two abreast is legal and safeleads to 'road tax' whinging
On 04/03/2021 02:09 pm, wrote:
Usual ignorant rants about a tax that was scrapped in 1937 as the DLVA confirmed. Road Policing Scotland took to Twitter to explain to motorists that cycling two abreast is both legal and safer for everyone involved. They linked a video (link is external) featuring Chris Boardman which explains how riding single file can often make it harder for drivers to pass. Single file means a longer line of cyclists for a driver to overtake. If you're on this site you probably don't need me to explain that... However, not everyone saw the point of the educational video and instead took the opportunity to give the tired road tax comments another outing https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-23153 Highway Code. Rule 168. It applies to you. Read it and obey it - especially the bit that says (as a discrete sentence): "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass".
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March 4th 21, 05:27 PM
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Traffic cops confirming riding two abreast is legal and safeleads to 'road tax' whinging
On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 2:09:22 PM UTC, wrote:
Usual ignorant rants about a tax that was scrapped in 1937 as the DLVA confirmed. Sriracha | 1667 posts | 5 hours ago 18 likes I'm not a Twitterer, but I do like this reply to the bozo triggered by cyclists two abreast. The picture is ace: https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/fi...AZc0w.jpeg.jpg g
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March 4th 21, 07:02 PM
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Traffic cops confirming riding two abreast is legal and safeleads to 'road tax' whinging
On 04/03/2021 14:56, JNugent wrote:
On 04/03/2021 02:09 pm, wrote: Usual ignorant rants about a tax that was scrapped in 1937 as the DLVA confirmed. Road Policing Scotland took to Twitter to explain to motorists that cycling two abreast is both legal and safer for everyone involved. They linked a video (link is external) featuring Chris Boardman which explains how riding single file can often make it harder for drivers to pass. Single file means a longer line of cyclists for a driver to overtake. If you're on this site you probably don't need me to explain that... However, not everyone saw the point of the educational video and instead took the opportunity to give the tired road tax comments another outing https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-23153 Highway Code. Rule 168. It applies to you. Read it and obey it - especially the bit that says (as a discrete sentence): "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass". Read before 168 163. Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should ● not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake ● use your mirrors, signal when it is safe to do so, take a quick sideways glance if necessary into the blind spot area and then start to move out ● not assume that you can simply follow a vehicle ahead which is overtaking; there may only be enough room for one vehicle ● move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in ● take extra care at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance ● give way to oncoming vehicles before passing parked vehicles or other obstructions on your side of the road ● only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so ● stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left ● give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211 to 213 and 214 to 215). Remember: Mirrors – Signal – Manoeuvre 167. DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example ● approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road ● where the road narrows ● when approaching a school crossing patrol ● between the kerb and a bus or tram when it is at a stop ● where traffic is queuing at junctions or road works ● when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down ● at a level crossing ● when a road user is indicating right, even if you believe the signal should have been cancelled. Do not take a risk; wait for the signal to be cancelled ● stay behind if you are following a cyclist approaching a roundabout or junction, and you intend to turn left ● when a tram is standing at a kerbside tram stop and there is no clearly marked passing lane for other traffic.
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March 4th 21, 08:47 PM
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Traffic cops confirming riding two abreast is legal and safeleads to 'road tax' whinging
On 04/03/2021 07:02 pm, colwyn wrote:
On 04/03/2021 14:56, JNugent wrote: On 04/03/2021 02:09 pm, wrote: Usual ignorant rants about a tax that was scrapped in 1937 as the DLVA confirmed. Road Policing Scotland took to Twitter to explain to motorists that cycling two abreast is both legal and safer for everyone involved. They linked a video (link is external) featuring Chris Boardman which explains how riding single file can often make it harder for drivers to pass. Single file means a longer line of cyclists for a driver to overtake. If you're on this site you probably don't need me to explain that... However, not everyone saw the point of the educational video and instead took the opportunity to give the tired road tax comments another outing https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-23153 Highway Code. Rule 168. It applies to you. Read it and obey it - especially the bit that says (as a discrete sentence): "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass". Read before 168 163. Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should ● not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake ● use your mirrors, signal when it is safe to do so, take a quick sideways glance if necessary into the blind spot area and then start to move out ● not assume that you can simply follow a vehicle ahead which is overtaking; there may only be enough room for one vehicle ● move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in ● take extra care at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance ● give way to oncoming vehicles before passing parked vehicles or other obstructions on your side of the road ● only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so ● stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left ● give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211 to 213 and 214 to 215). Remember: Mirrors – Signal – Manoeuvre 167. DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example ● approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road ● where the road narrows ● when approaching a school crossing patrol ● between the kerb and a bus or tram when it is at a stop ● where traffic is queuing at junctions or road works ● when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down ● at a level crossing ● when a road user is indicating right, even if you believe the signal should have been cancelled. Do not take a risk; wait for the signal to be cancelled ● stay behind if you are following a cyclist approaching a roundabout or junction, and you intend to turn left ● when a tram is standing at a kerbside tram stop and there is no clearly marked passing lane for other traffic. Which bit of that disapplies Rule 168?
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March 5th 21, 08:15 AM
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Traffic cops confirming riding two abreast is legal and safeleads to 'road tax' whinging
On 04/03/2021 20:47, JNugent wrote:
On 04/03/2021 07:02 pm, colwyn wrote: On 04/03/2021 14:56, JNugent wrote: On 04/03/2021 02:09 pm, wrote: Usual ignorant rants about a tax that was scrapped in 1937 as the DLVA confirmed. Road Policing Scotland took to Twitter to explain to motorists that cycling two abreast is both legal and safer for everyone involved. They linked a video (link is external) featuring Chris Boardman which explains how riding single file can often make it harder for drivers to pass. Single file means a longer line of cyclists for a driver to overtake. If you're on this site you probably don't need me to explain that... However, not everyone saw the point of the educational video and instead took the opportunity to give the tired road tax comments another outing https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-23153 Highway Code. Rule 168. It applies to you. Read it and obey it - especially the bit that says (as a discrete sentence): "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass". Read before 168 163. Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should ● not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake ● use your mirrors, signal when it is safe to do so, take a quick sideways glance if necessary into the blind spot area and then start to move out ● not assume that you can simply follow a vehicle ahead which is overtaking; there may only be enough room for one vehicle ● move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in ● take extra care at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance ● give way to oncoming vehicles before passing parked vehicles or other obstructions on your side of the road ● only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so ● stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left ● give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211 to 213 and 214 to 215). Remember: Mirrors – Signal – Manoeuvre 167. DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example ● approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road ● where the road narrows ● when approaching a school crossing patrol ● between the kerb and a bus or tram when it is at a stop ● where traffic is queuing at junctions or road works ● when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down ● at a level crossing ● when a road user is indicating right, even if you believe the signal should have been cancelled. Do not take a risk; wait for the signal to be cancelled ● stay behind if you are following a cyclist approaching a roundabout or junction, and you intend to turn left ● when a tram is standing at a kerbside tram stop and there is no clearly marked passing lane for other traffic. Which bit of that disapplies Rule 168? Don't attempt unsafe and dangerous manoeuvres ! First line of rule #163 and #167 Overtaking is NOT a given right of way.
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March 5th 21, 09:23 AM
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Traffic cops confirming riding two abreast is legal and safeleads to 'road tax' whinging
On 04/03/2021 14:56, JNugent wrote:
On 04/03/2021 02:09 pm, wrote: Usual ignorant rants about a tax that was scrapped in 1937 as the DLVA confirmed. Road Policing Scotland took to Twitter to explain to motorists that cycling two abreast is both legal and safer for everyone involved. They linked a video (link is external) featuring Chris Boardman which explains how riding single file can often make it harder for drivers to pass. Single file means a longer line of cyclists for a driver to overtake. If you're on this site you probably don't need me to explain that... However, not everyone saw the point of the educational video and instead took the opportunity to give the tired road tax comments another outing https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-23153 Highway Code. Rule 168. It applies to you. Read it and obey it - especially the bit that says (as a discrete sentence): "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass". What has that got to do with riding two abreast?
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March 5th 21, 10:11 AM
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Traffic cops confirming riding two abreast is legal and safeleads to 'road tax' whinging
On 05/03/2021 08:15 am, colwyn wrote:
On 04/03/2021 20:47, JNugent wrote: On 04/03/2021 07:02 pm, colwyn wrote: On 04/03/2021 14:56, JNugent wrote: On 04/03/2021 02:09 pm, wrote: Usual ignorant rants about a tax that was scrapped in 1937 as the DLVA confirmed. Road Policing Scotland took to Twitter to explain to motorists that cycling two abreast is both legal and safer for everyone involved. They linked a video (link is external) featuring Chris Boardman which explains how riding single file can often make it harder for drivers to pass. Single file means a longer line of cyclists for a driver to overtake. If you're on this site you probably don't need me to explain that... However, not everyone saw the point of the educational video and instead took the opportunity to give the tired road tax comments another outing https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-23153 Highway Code. Rule 168. It applies to you. Read it and obey it - especially the bit that says (as a discrete sentence): "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass". Read before 168 163. Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should ● not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake ● use your mirrors, signal when it is safe to do so, take a quick sideways glance if necessary into the blind spot area and then start to move out ● not assume that you can simply follow a vehicle ahead which is overtaking; there may only be enough room for one vehicle ● move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in ● take extra care at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance ● give way to oncoming vehicles before passing parked vehicles or other obstructions on your side of the road ● only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so ● stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left ● give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211 to 213 and 214 to 215). Remember: Mirrors – Signal – Manoeuvre 167. DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example ● approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road ● where the road narrows ● when approaching a school crossing patrol ● between the kerb and a bus or tram when it is at a stop ● where traffic is queuing at junctions or road works ● when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down ● at a level crossing ● when a road user is indicating right, even if you believe the signal should have been cancelled. Do not take a risk; wait for the signal to be cancelled ● stay behind if you are following a cyclist approaching a roundabout or junction, and you intend to turn left ● when a tram is standing at a kerbside tram stop and there is no clearly marked passing lane for other traffic. Which bit of that disapplies Rule 168? Don't attempt unsafe and dangerous manoeuvres ! First line of rule #163 and #167 Overtaking is NOT a given right of way. Which bit of that disapplies Rule 168, which is "Never obstruct a drivers who wish to pass"? Not: "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass unless you feel like it".
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March 5th 21, 10:11 AM
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Traffic cops confirming riding two abreast is legal and safeleads to 'road tax' whinging
On 05/03/2021 09:23 am, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/03/2021 14:56, JNugent wrote: On 04/03/2021 02:09 pm, wrote: Usual ignorant rants about a tax that was scrapped in 1937 as the DLVA confirmed. Road Policing Scotland took to Twitter to explain to motorists that cycling two abreast is both legal and safer for everyone involved. They linked a video (link is external) featuring Chris Boardman which explains how riding single file can often make it harder for drivers to pass. Single file means a longer line of cyclists for a driver to overtake. If you're on this site you probably don't need me to explain that... However, not everyone saw the point of the educational video and instead took the opportunity to give the tired road tax comments another outing https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-23153 Highway Code. Rule 168. It applies to you. Read it and obey it - especially the bit that says (as a discrete sentence): "Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass". What has that got to do with riding two abreast? Obstruction. It can take many forms.
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March 5th 21, 11:28 AM
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Traffic cops confirming riding two abreast is legal and safeleads to 'road tax' whinging
On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 7:02:33 PM UTC, colwyn wrote:
163. Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should ● not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake That just about covers the whole subject in two sentences.
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