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Mayo 2nd in 15th stage - bad style?
"Willowbeauty" wrote in message ...
Mayo would have lost nothing in this competition crossing the line as 3rd. 4 seconds are nothing in the best team classification by now. Good thing Lemond wasn't quite so flippant as you over a few seconds wasn't it? I just learned from RBR that the bonuses doesn't even count for the best team classification. Okay, Mayo may not have known that either. |
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Mayo 2nd in 15th stage - bad style?
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
"Willowbeauty" wrote in message ... "Martin Recker" wrote in message om... "Willowbeauty" wrote in message .. . Euskatel are after the highest Spanish team prize Mayo would have lost nothing in this competition crossing the line as 3rd. 4 seconds are nothing in the best team classification by now. Good thing Lemond wasn't quite so flippant as you over a few seconds wasn't it? Mayo is not in contention for much. The rider ahead of him is his teamate. If he breaks tomorrow for Bayonne (not saying he will) would you accept his motives for a podium finish? If he and Zubeldia continue to slave in tandem and make up the deficit to CSC, would you accept those motives? What might you accept? |
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Mayo 2nd in 15th stage - bad style?
"Clovis Lark" wrote in message ... Kurgan Gringioni wrote: "Willowbeauty" wrote in message ... "Martin Recker" wrote in message om... "Willowbeauty" wrote in message .. . Euskatel are after the highest Spanish team prize Mayo would have lost nothing in this competition crossing the line as 3rd. 4 seconds are nothing in the best team classification by now. Good thing Lemond wasn't quite so flippant as you over a few seconds wasn't it? Mayo is not in contention for much. The rider ahead of him is his teamate. If he breaks tomorrow for Bayonne (not saying he will) would you accept his motives for a podium finish? If he and Zubeldia continue to slave in tandem and make up the deficit to CSC, would you accept those motives? What might you accept? Mayo won't finish on the podium. I'm willing to put money on that. Are you? |
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Mayo 2nd in 15th stage - bad style?
Steve McGinty wrote:
Put it in the perspective of Monday's stage - Mayo didn't know how much time Vino was going to lose - so every second counted, as far as he was concerned. In that case he should have worked with JU to put time into Vino, unless Mayo's "excuse" is that he couldn't help due to JU's pressure. And if he couldn't help, then he ought to be thankful to JU for towing him, and concede the time bonus to JU. Wayne |
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Mayo 2nd in 15th stage - bad style?
Mayo is my currently hated rider for that move. No class !!
-- Irrationally held truths may be more harmful than reasoned errors. "Martin Recker" wrote in message om... "Willowbeauty" wrote in message ... Mayo would have lost nothing in this competition crossing the line as 3rd. 4 seconds are nothing in the best team classification by now. Good thing Lemond wasn't quite so flippant as you over a few seconds wasn't it? I just learned from RBR that the bonuses doesn't even count for the best team classification. Okay, Mayo may not have known that either. |
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Mayo 2nd in 15th stage - bad style?
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
"Clovis Lark" wrote in message ... Kurgan Gringioni wrote: "Willowbeauty" wrote in message ... "Martin Recker" wrote in message om... "Willowbeauty" wrote in message .. . Euskatel are after the highest Spanish team prize Mayo would have lost nothing in this competition crossing the line as 3rd. 4 seconds are nothing in the best team classification by now. Good thing Lemond wasn't quite so flippant as you over a few seconds wasn't it? Mayo is not in contention for much. The rider ahead of him is his teamate. If he breaks tomorrow for Bayonne (not saying he will) would you accept his motives for a podium finish? If he and Zubeldia continue to slave in tandem and make up the deficit to CSC, would you accept those motives? What might you accept? Mayo won't finish on the podium. I'm willing to put money on that. Are you? My hunch is that he won't either. But that is not a blank check for him to stop racing. Much is on the line, E-E has budgetary constraints and is hoping to raise extra cash for extending contracts for their riders from both Euskatel and the local government. However, if the dough ain't sufficient, he, along with several others, will be looking for interest elsewhere. Most teams would gladly grab a combative, energetic rider who doesn't give up. On his team's part, the Fundacion Euskadi is only able to guarantee a single year contract which won't keep riders looking for several years' security. Euskatel is planning to continue their support to 2006, but the current contract ends next season and good exposure/results are needed to convince the beancounters. Right now, they aren't inclined to give more than 3 million euros. The balance is apparently going to come from provincial government grants. I think this presents incentive enough to perform as hard as possible. Facts cribbed from: http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?...ures/euskaltel |
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Mayo 2nd in 15th stage - bad style?
"Clovis Lark" wrote in message ... Mayo won't finish on the podium. I'm willing to put money on that. Are you? My hunch is that he won't either. But that is not a blank check for him to stop racing. Much is on the line, E-E has budgetary constraints and is hoping to raise extra cash for extending contracts for their riders from both Euskatel and the local government. However, if the dough ain't sufficient, he, along with several others, will be looking for interest elsewhere. Most teams would gladly grab a combative, energetic rider who doesn't give up. On his team's part, the Fundacion Euskadi is only able to guarantee a single year contract which won't keep riders looking for several years' security. Euskatel is planning to continue their support to 2006, but the current contract ends next season and good exposure/results are needed to convince the beancounters. Right now, they aren't inclined to give more than 3 million euros. The balance is apparently going to come from provincial government grants. I think this presents incentive enough to perform as hard as possible. If he performed as hard as possible, he should have at least helped Ullrich a little, even 5%, then sprinted. Dude didn't do a thing. He will be paid back. |
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Mayo 2nd in 15th stage - bad style?
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:15:22 GMT, Wayne Pein wrote:
Steve McGinty wrote: Put it in the perspective of Monday's stage - Mayo didn't know how much time Vino was going to lose - so every second counted, as far as he was concerned. In that case he should have worked with JU to put time into Vino, unless Mayo's "excuse" is that he couldn't help due to JU's pressure. And if he couldn't help, then he ought to be thankful to JU for towing him, and concede the time bonus to JU. Wayne Mayo had attacked a number of times and had tried to go with Armstrong. Having failed to stay with Armstrong his best option for gaining time on Vino was to sit on Ullrich when he came up and try to get the remaining bonuses. Regards! Stephen |
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Mayo 2nd in 15th stage - bad style?
"Clovis Lark" wrote in message ... Kurgan Gringioni wrote: "Clovis Lark" wrote in message ... Mayo won't finish on the podium. I'm willing to put money on that. Are you? My hunch is that he won't either. But that is not a blank check for him to stop racing. Much is on the line, E-E has budgetary constraints and is hoping to raise extra cash for extending contracts for their riders from both Euskatel and the local government. However, if the dough ain't sufficient, he, along with several others, will be looking for interest elsewhere. Most teams would gladly grab a combative, energetic rider who doesn't give up. On his team's part, the Fundacion Euskadi is only able to guarantee a single year contract which won't keep riders looking for several years' security. Euskatel is planning to continue their support to 2006, but the current contract ends next season and good exposure/results are needed to convince the beancounters. Right now, they aren't inclined to give more than 3 million euros. The balance is apparently going to come from provincial government grants. I think this presents incentive enough to perform as hard as possible. If he performed as hard as possible, he should have at least helped Ullrich a little, even 5%, then sprinted. You assume, without evidence, that he had a super 10km climb in his legs greater than that of Ullrich. If he was strong enough to sprint by at the end (Ullrich wanted the bonus), he could have done at least one or two pulls. The honorable way to do it would have been to help a little, then quit helping towards the finish. The way he did it will besmirch his reputation among his peers. |
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Mayo 2nd in 15th stage - bad style?
Martin Recker wrote:
"Willowbeauty" wrote in message .. . Euskatel are after the highest Spanish team prize Mayo would have lost nothing in this competition crossing the line as 3rd. 4 seconds are nothing in the best team classification by now. If you don;t want people to sprint for it then don;t give euros for it...Mayo attacked earlier in the race. He tried to attack Jan once Lance had left. Mayo also attacked late enough to allow Jan to respond -- Why hammer if you can spin... -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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