You really couldn't make it up...

On 17/07/13 01:49, JNugent wrote:
On 16/07/2013 22:27, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:32:17 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 16/07/2013 19:54, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:25:36 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving
the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv
footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties
being
dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic
most often ignores one-way working?

It's not the traffic that ignored one-way working, it is the vehicle
operator.

Quite so.

And in/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore
one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a
facility, etc?

In this case:
http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/ki...t_spooked_him/

It appears that the BMW driver was so shocked that a law abiding
cyclist told him that he was going the wrong way down a one way
street, that he collided with the cyclist before ploughing into
several pedestrians, a brick wall and a London bus.

The comments section of the report says it all.

What is it about straightforward questions that confuses so many folk?

In/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore
one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a
facility, etc?

Ambulance?

On 16/07/2013 22:27, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:32:17 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 16/07/2013 19:54, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:25:36 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving
the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv
footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being
dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic
most often ignores one-way working?

It's not the traffic that ignored one-way working, it is the vehicle
operator.

Quite so.

And in/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore
one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a
facility, etc?

In this case:
http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/ki...t_spooked_him/
It appears that the BMW driver was so shocked that a law abiding
cyclist told him that he was going the wrong way down a one way
street, that he collided with the cyclist before ploughing into
several pedestrians, a brick wall and a London bus.

The comments section of the report says it all.


Given where the car ended up he was not travelling the wrong way down
Fife Road, but did turn the wrong way on Clarence Street, but this was
after the cyclist shouted at him.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:58:02 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:54:19 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

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Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic
most often ignores one-way working?

It's not the traffic that ignored one-way working, it is the vehicle
operator. In this case a BMW driver.


Poor old Crispin - still cannot understand a simple question.

Here it is again: "Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of
vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working?"

I don't think that you heard me.

It ain't vehicular traffic which ignores one-way working, it is the
drivers of vehicular traffic.

I suspect their class is most often middle class. But I don't know.
Have you any statistics on the matter?

Come on now - you can do it.

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:50:11 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote:

On 16/07/2013 22:27, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:32:17 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 16/07/2013 19:54, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:25:36 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving
the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv
footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being
dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic
most often ignores one-way working?

It's not the traffic that ignored one-way working, it is the vehicle
operator.

Quite so.

And in/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore
one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a
facility, etc?

In this case:
http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/ki...t_spooked_him/
It appears that the BMW driver was so shocked that a law abiding
cyclist told him that he was going the wrong way down a one way
street, that he collided with the cyclist before ploughing into
several pedestrians, a brick wall and a London bus.

The comments section of the report says it all.


Given where the car ended up he was not travelling the wrong way down
Fife Road, but did turn the wrong way on Clarence Street, but this was
after the cyclist shouted at him.

Why do you suppose the cyclist shouted at him - perhaps because he was
about the drive the wrong way around the gyratory?

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:49:00 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 16/07/2013 22:27, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:32:17 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 16/07/2013 19:54, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:25:36 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving
the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv
footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being
dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic
most often ignores one-way working?

It's not the traffic that ignored one-way working, it is the vehicle
operator.

Quite so.

And in/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore
one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a
facility, etc?

In this case:
http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/ki...t_spooked_him/
It appears that the BMW driver was so shocked that a law abiding
cyclist told him that he was going the wrong way down a one way
street, that he collided with the cyclist before ploughing into
several pedestrians, a brick wall and a London bus.

The comments section of the report says it all.

What is it about straightforward questions that confuses so many folk?

In/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore
one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a
facility, etc?

Motor vehicle.

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving
the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv
footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties
being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic
most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news because of
their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving
the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv
footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties
being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic
most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news because of
their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.

When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people
before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?

This sort of event, if extremely rare with motor vehicles, never
happens with cyclists.

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by
driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no
doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties
being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular
traffic most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news
because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.

When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people
before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?


You are evading the question asked, how unusual.

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:29:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by
driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no
doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties
being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular
traffic most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news
because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.

When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people
before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?


You are evading the question asked, how unusual.

But you had already answered the question, with, what I can only
assume, is something you can support with data.

Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:29:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by
driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no
doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties
being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular
traffic most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news
because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.

When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people
before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?


You are evading the question asked, how unusual.

But you had already answered the question, with, what I can only
assume, is something you can support with data.

Anyway, why should anyone want to equally compare breaking the law in
this way when it is considered a far greater crime to motor, rather
than cycle, the wrong way through a one-way system?

--
Alexis