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  #21  
Old July 17th 13, 09:35 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_3_]
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Pristine Bruise wrote:
Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:29:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had
been involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by
driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut -
no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant
penalties being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular
traffic most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news
because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.

When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people
before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?


You are evading the question asked, how unusual.


But you had already answered the question, with, what I can only
assume, is something you can support with data.


Anyway, why should anyone want to equally compare breaking the law in
this way when it is considered a far greater crime to motor, rather
than cycle, the wrong way through a one-way system?


Can you let me know the statute that says that?


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  #22  
Old July 17th 13, 10:35 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pristine Bruise
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Mrcheerful wrote:

Pristine Bruise wrote:
Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:29:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had
been involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by
driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut -
no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant
penalties being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular
traffic most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news
because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.

When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people
before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?


You are evading the question asked, how unusual.

But you had already answered the question, with, what I can only
assume, is something you can support with data.


Anyway, why should anyone want to equally compare breaking the law in
this way when it is considered a far greater crime to motor, rather
than cycle, the wrong way through a one-way system?


Can you let me know the statute that says that?


Your common sense should be enough for you to know that is true - why
bring up statutes? Would you expect the same penalty (punishment) for
breaking that law by cycling as you would for driving?

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Old July 17th 13, 11:53 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
John Benn
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Default You really couldn't make it up...

"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving
the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv
footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties
being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic
most often ignores one-way working?


A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news because
of
their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.


When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people
before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?

This sort of event, if extremely rare with motor vehicles, never
happens with cyclists.


Cyclists never ignore traffic signs and signals?

  #25  
Old July 17th 13, 11:54 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
John Benn
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"Pristine Bruise" wrote in message
...
Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:29:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by
driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no
doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties
being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular
traffic most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news
because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.

When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people
before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?


You are evading the question asked, how unusual.


But you had already answered the question, with, what I can only
assume, is something you can support with data.


Anyway, why should anyone want to equally compare breaking the law in
this way when it is considered a far greater crime to motor, rather
than cycle, the wrong way through a one-way system?


If you kill someone while on a bicycle, the law will treat you in exactly
the same way as if you were driving a car or lorry.

  #26  
Old July 17th 13, 12:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:02:16 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

snip


In/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore
one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a
facility, etc?


Motor vehicle.



Please Sir : my dad says that that is incorrect: can you try again: or perhaps
provide some evidence if you're sure that you are right. It would be bad form
for an (ex) teacher to be giving out duff gen.



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Old July 17th 13, 12:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bertie Wooster[_2_]
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:53:25 +0100, "John Benn"
wrote:

"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been
involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving
the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv
footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties
being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic
most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news because
of
their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.


When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people
before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?

This sort of event, if extremely rare with motor vehicles, never
happens with cyclists.


Cyclists never ignore traffic signs and signals?


They do, but a far, far lower percentage than motor vehicles.

But that was not my claim.
  #28  
Old July 17th 13, 12:07 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:29:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

snip


You are evading the question asked, how unusual.



Perhaps it is because of teacher training (I must admit I am assuming that he
had some).

If you are asked a question, the answer to which would be embarrassing for you
- dodge the question and answer one which was not asked.

  #29  
Old July 17th 13, 12:08 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_3_]
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Pristine Bruise wrote:
Mrcheerful wrote:

Pristine Bruise wrote:
Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:29:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had
been involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by
driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut -
no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant
penalties being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular
traffic most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the
news because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.

When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three
people before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?


You are evading the question asked, how unusual.

But you had already answered the question, with, what I can only
assume, is something you can support with data.

Anyway, why should anyone want to equally compare breaking the law
in this way when it is considered a far greater crime to motor,
rather than cycle, the wrong way through a one-way system?


Can you let me know the statute that says that?


Your common sense should be enough for you to know that is true - why
bring up statutes? Would you expect the same penalty (punishment) for
breaking that law by cycling as you would for driving?


with the exception of points on the licence, yes.


  #30  
Old July 17th 13, 12:12 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_3_]
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Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:53:25 +0100, "John Benn"
wrote:

"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had
been involved in a traffic accident):

QUOTE:
Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the
initial collision and dangerous driving?
He's clearly guilty of both.
ENDQUOTE

How about High Treason as well?

QUOTE:
And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by
driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut -
no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that.
ENDQUOTE

I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties
being dealt out to offenders.

Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular
traffic most often ignores one-way working?

A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news
because of
their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars.

When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people
before crashing into a brick wall and a bus?

This sort of event, if extremely rare with motor vehicles, never
happens with cyclists.


Cyclists never ignore traffic signs and signals?


They do, but a far, far lower percentage than motor vehicles.

But that was not my claim.


Strange, because I see cyclists ignore traffic signs , signals and sense
every day. It is a real event to see a cyclist that is riding legally for
any distance. So it would seem that something over 99 per cent of cyclists
routinely break traffic regulations.


 




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