Does Lambeth lead the way in London?

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The Lambeth Cycling Strategy sets out how cycling will be taken
forward in the next decade with principles that will be applied to the
Council’s capital infrastructure programme and guide the development
of a programme of cycle improvements. Its core aim is to make cycle
safer and convenient for all groups – so that 1-100 year olds feel
safe enough to cycle.

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http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/moderngov/...13%20NEW. pdf

"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
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The Lambeth Cycling Strategy sets out how cycling will be taken
forward in the next decade with principles that will be applied to the
Council's capital infrastructure programme and guide the development
of a programme of cycle improvements. Its core aim is to make cycle
safer and convenient for all groups - so that 1-100 year olds feel

The best way to do this is to force cyclists to use the facilities provided
for them at considerable cost to the general public. Including cycle paths.
They are much safer off the roads.

"John Benn" wrote in message ...


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
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The Lambeth Cycling Strategy sets out how cycling will be taken
forward in the next decade with principles that will be applied to the
Council's capital infrastructure programme and guide the development
of a programme of cycle improvements. Its core aim is to make cycle
safer and convenient for all groups - so that 1-100 year olds feel

The best way to do this is to force cyclists to use the facilities provided
for them at considerable cost to the general public. Including cycle paths.
They are much safer off the roads.

Yes, agreed, although I feel Lambeth's threshold for young people cycling
may be a little low at 1 year old.
I would suggest the age for cycling in Lambeth's traffic would sensibly be
somewhat higher than that.

"Partac" wrote in message
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"John Benn" wrote in message ...


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
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The Lambeth Cycling Strategy sets out how cycling will be taken
forward in the next decade with principles that will be applied to the
Council's capital infrastructure programme and guide the development
of a programme of cycle improvements. Its core aim is to make cycle
safer and convenient for all groups - so that 1-100 year olds feel

The best way to do this is to force cyclists to use the facilities
provided
for them at considerable cost to the general public. Including cycle
paths.
They are much safer off the roads.

Yes, agreed, although I feel Lambeth's threshold for young people cycling
may be a little low at 1 year old.

Maybe that's to encourage cyclists who have a mental age of 1.... i.e. most
of them.

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"John Benn" wrote:

"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
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The Lambeth Cycling Strategy sets out how cycling will be taken
forward in the next decade with principles that will be applied to the
Council's capital infrastructure programme and guide the development
of a programme of cycle improvements. Its core aim is to make cycle
safer and convenient for all groups - so that 1-100 year olds feel

The best way to do this is to force cyclists to use the facilities provided
for them at considerable cost to the general public. Including cycle paths.
They are much safer off the roads.

Yes, and in other news, a recent upsurge in armed crime has seen calls
for citizens to wear bullet proof vests or be blamed for their own
murder. 'Well, if they don't, it's just their fault, innit?' said John
Benn, when interviewed.

On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:38:23 +0100, Phil W Lee wrote:

"John Benn" considered Tue, 9 Jul 2013
16:34:21 +0100 the perfect time to write:


"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
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The Lambeth Cycling Strategy sets out how cycling will be taken
forward in the next decade with principles that will be applied to the
Council's capital infrastructure programme and guide the development
of a programme of cycle improvements. Its core aim is to make cycle
safer and convenient for all groups - so that 1-100 year olds feel

The best way to do this is to force cyclists to use the facilities provided
for them at considerable cost to the general public. Including cycle paths.
They are much safer off the roads.

Statistically, no, they aren't.
But if there is a single measure that would make cycling safer, it
would be proper enforcement of existing motoring laws.


You must mean cyclists obeying the laws which motorists obey:

eg:
Stopping at red lights; observing one-way streets; signalling clearly etc etc

"Andy Watson" wrote in message
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"John Benn" wrote:

"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
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The Lambeth Cycling Strategy sets out how cycling will be taken
forward in the next decade with principles that will be applied to the
Council's capital infrastructure programme and guide the development
of a programme of cycle improvements. Its core aim is to make cycle
safer and convenient for all groups - so that 1-100 year olds feel

The best way to do this is to force cyclists to use the facilities
provided
for them at considerable cost to the general public. Including cycle
paths.
They are much safer off the roads.

Yes, and in other news, a recent upsurge in armed crime has seen calls
for citizens to wear bullet proof vests or be blamed for their own
murder. 'Well, if they don't, it's just their fault, innit?' said John
Benn, when interviewed.

Ahh, a real lesser-spotted psycholist. There is a zoo that needs you
somewhere.

Phil W Lee writes:

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The Lambeth Cycling Strategy sets out how cycling will be taken
forward in the next decade with principles that will be applied to the
Council's capital infrastructure programme and guide the development
of a programme of cycle improvements. Its core aim is to make cycle
safer and convenient for all groups - so that 1-100 year olds feel

I shouldn't think that many Lambeth residents make it to 100 what with
all the obesity and air/ noise pollution... So, does Lambeth lead the
way in London? Quite possibly, but that is a _very_ low bar to clear.
It tells you more about the rest of London than it does about Lambeth.
The claim in paragraph 2.7 that Lambeth has a track record of promoting
cycling is quite amusing. I've cycled through it many times without
noticing any improvement in cycling conditions compared with other
districts---although it covers such a small area that they would be easy
enough to miss. Also note the get-out clauses inter alia in paragraph
4.5 and the last item of paragraph 7.2 in the [unlikely?] event of there
being a new city mayor during/ before 2016 or a changing of minds in the
meantime.

The best way to do this is to force cyclists to use the facilities
provided for them at considerable cost to the general public.
Including cycle paths. They are much safer off the roads.

According to paragraph 3.2, the `bid' will be free (or at least
laundered through the unringfenced `transport' account) and no doubt
worth every penny the council spends on it. _If_ approved, the actual
`facilities' will be paid for with national debt, so you don't need to
worry about it :-).

Statistically, no, they aren't.
But if there is a single measure that would make cycling safer, it
would be proper enforcement of existing motoring laws.

If the report is to be believed, there won't be much room left for motor
vehicles once they've put in the dense network of quality bike lanes and
`permeability' for walking and cycling, etc. Even then, the residual
motor vehicles will be in segregated lanes---making non-enforcement less
of an issue for non-motorists. Apart from the aforementioned air/ noise
pollution, of course. But if Lambeth were genuinely trying to `go Dutch
(circa 1973)' then they probably would have to make the bike lanes
compulsory, changes to the national law and all. Although whether this
would last as long as the German attempt to do the same is another
matter ;-).

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Mark