Cyclist displaying high standards

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:26:27 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:49:01 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

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I note that Boris Johnson wants to decriminalise bike box encroachment
in London so that TfL can enforce compliance with bike box cameras.


Oh - he wants to make another source of money from motorists.

What a surprise.

Nugent's rant was better.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:24:59 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:00:33 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

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The handlebars were an expensive component of poor quality, not a
cheap component of poor quality.



So did they settle out of court with you?

Yes. An apology, immediate replacement of stronger and better quality
handlebars, and a free full service of my bike was the settlement.

"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:24:59 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:00:33 +0100, Bertie Wooster

wrote:

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The handlebars were an expensive component of poor quality, not a
cheap component of poor quality.



So did they settle out of court with you?

Yes. An apology, immediate replacement of stronger and better quality
handlebars, and a free full service of my bike was the settlement.

Yes, we all believe you, don't we?

Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:24:59 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:00:33 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

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The handlebars were an expensive component of poor quality, not a
cheap component of poor quality.



So did they settle out of court with you?

Yes. An apology, immediate replacement of stronger and better quality
handlebars, and a free full service of my bike was the settlement.

Sounds like a good settlement.

I have just Googled these carbon handlebars that come with a lifetime
warrantee. As you would expect, with them you are guaranteed should
the bar break in your lifetime, they will give you a new one provided
you are the original owner. Apparently, though, companies have worked
out how long a person tends to own something on average and decided
that they can cover the losses within that period. So, a lifetime
warranty for a handlebar may average out to be just a very few years
for them. Thus they can probably afford to be generous when they do
have to pay up on some of these warrantees.

--
Alexis

"Pristine Bruise" wrote in message ...

Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:24:59 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:00:33 +0100, Bertie Wooster

wrote:

snip


The handlebars were an expensive component of poor quality, not a
cheap component of poor quality.



So did they settle out of court with you?

Yes. An apology, immediate replacement of stronger and better quality
handlebars, and a free full service of my bike was the settlement.

Sounds like a good settlement.

I have just Googled these carbon handlebars that come with a lifetime
warrantee. As you would expect, with them you are guaranteed should
the bar break in your lifetime, they will give you a new one provided
you are the original owner. Apparently, though, companies have worked
out how long a person tends to own something on average and decided
that they can cover the losses within that period. So, a lifetime
warranty for a handlebar may average out to be just a very few years
for them. Thus they can probably afford to be generous when they do
have to pay up on some of these warrantees.

You haven't really been following the thread, have you?:

Quote:......Enjoying a bit of bike bling, I bought what I thought were
carbon
handlebars. Infact they were aluminium handlebars encased with a
carbon sleeve. Over the five or so years I had the bike, water had
ingressed between the sleeve and the aluminium causing the metal to
corrode, eventually leading to the catastrophic failure (to the
handlebars) and near catastrophic failure (to my arse) mentioned
above.......... Unquote

So they weren't carbon handlebars at all, they were aluminium covered in
carbon to make them look like the sort you Googled.
Possibly cheap Chinese (or elsewhere) counterfeits, with the expected and
attendant warranty?

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:28:12 +0100, Pristine Bruise
wrote:

The handlebars were an expensive component of poor quality, not a
cheap component of poor quality.

So did they settle out of court with you?

Yes. An apology, immediate replacement of stronger and better quality
handlebars, and a free full service of my bike was the settlement.

Sounds like a good settlement.

I'd expect nothing less from Robin Thorn. I've bought two bikes from
him, a Raven Tour and a Raven Twin, and I'd buy from him again.

I have just Googled these carbon handlebars that come with a lifetime
warrantee. As you would expect, with them you are guaranteed should
the bar break in your lifetime, they will give you a new one provided
you are the original owner. Apparently, though, companies have worked
out how long a person tends to own something on average and decided
that they can cover the losses within that period. So, a lifetime
warranty for a handlebar may average out to be just a very few years
for them. Thus they can probably afford to be generous when they do
have to pay up on some of these warrantees.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:31:48 +0100, "Partac"
wrote:



"Pristine Bruise" wrote in message ...

Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:24:59 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:00:33 +0100, Bertie Wooster

wrote:

snip


The handlebars were an expensive component of poor quality, not a
cheap component of poor quality.



So did they settle out of court with you?

Yes. An apology, immediate replacement of stronger and better quality
handlebars, and a free full service of my bike was the settlement.

Sounds like a good settlement.

I have just Googled these carbon handlebars that come with a lifetime
warrantee. As you would expect, with them you are guaranteed should
the bar break in your lifetime, they will give you a new one provided
you are the original owner. Apparently, though, companies have worked
out how long a person tends to own something on average and decided
that they can cover the losses within that period. So, a lifetime
warranty for a handlebar may average out to be just a very few years
for them. Thus they can probably afford to be generous when they do
have to pay up on some of these warrantees.

You haven't really been following the thread, have you?:

Quote:......Enjoying a bit of bike bling, I bought what I thought were
carbon
handlebars. Infact they were aluminium handlebars encased with a
carbon sleeve. Over the five or so years I had the bike, water had
ingressed between the sleeve and the aluminium causing the metal to
corrode, eventually leading to the catastrophic failure (to the
handlebars) and near catastrophic failure (to my arse) mentioned
above.......... Unquote

So they weren't carbon handlebars at all, they were aluminium covered in
carbon to make them look like the sort you Googled.
Possibly cheap Chinese (or elsewhere) counterfeits, with the expected and
attendant warranty?

No they weren't. They were Thorn, a reputable and usually reliable
British design and brand. I have no idea where they were made, but I
do know that they are not made any more, or if they are, not under the
Thorn brand.

I also think that you have misunderstood the second part of Mr
Bruise's post. He wasn't writing about the handlebars which I bought
and later failed, but carbon bars in general which have a lifetime
guarantee.

My bars were not replaced under any guarantee, but by the goodwill of
the bike shop's and workshop's owner.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:55:08 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

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My bars were not replaced under any guarantee, but by the goodwill of
the bike shop's and workshop's owner.


Was he Vietnamese - or is his nationality not relevant. (On this occasion)

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:47:59 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:55:08 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

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My bars were not replaced under any guarantee, but by the goodwill of
the bike shop's and workshop's owner.


Was he Vietnamese - or is his nationality not relevant. (On this occasion)

Was that another Pavlovian response?

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On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:14:19 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
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JNugent wrote:
On 18/07/2013 10:27, Squashme wrote:

Partac wrote:

As per title:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=159_1374124790

Only posted a few hours and already over 200 comments. What a
pointless world.

The title on the video itself was one of praise for the bus-driver,
and it was an excellent reaction on her part.

Incredibly quick emergency stop.

I hope that the driver and none of the (entirely innocent) bus
passengers were injured in what was obviously a rapid deceleration.

I thought it was sad that no-one actually went and comforted the girl and
made her at least sit still, she would definitely be in shock and possibly
had broken bits.

I recall a time when I was in a bike box at the head of a traffic
queue on the A20 he
http://goo.gl/maps/y9Nsw

I berated a National Express coach driver for illegally encroaching
into the bike box.

The lights went green and we all pulled off. At the moment of pulling
off my bicycle handlebars broke, and there was nothing for me to do
but end up in a heap on the tarmac.


Thanks for providing even more evidence that cycles are not a viable form
of transport

My steering wheel keeps breaking! :-)