Should Cyclists Pack Guns?

On Apr 20, 10:59 am, "Thumper" wrote:

You guys are rude, inconsiderate and a danger to motorists.

That's an interesting thing for a member of the "loud pipes save
lives" group to say.

On 20 Apr 2007 10:41:10 -0700, donquijote1954
wrote:

On Apr 19, 6:02 pm, Dane Buson wrote:
In rec.bicycles.soc Road Glidin' Don wrote:

On Apr 19, 2:22 pm, asshat1954 wrote:
On Apr 19, 1:11 pm, Road Glidin' Don wrote:

Hopefully a door opener gets you some day, so we don't have to put up
with your retarded cross-posts anymore.

I'd consider it an act of terrorism. Bicycles should have the right to
be free from opening doors as well as from invasive cars. If someone
has the right ot bear arms, we should have the right to ride a bike
SAFELY on the streets, ie. WE NEED BIKE LANES.

You've got a newsgroup for bicycles which you don't stay in. No
reason to suppose, if you had bike lanes, you'd stay in them either.

I've never seen him post to the bicycle group except to troll via
crosspost. He's a miserable hypocritical mouth breathing cretin, and
I'm not sure he's ever seet foot to pedal on a bicycle.

You've got a lot to learn about responsible use and sharing before you
start preaching to others, retard.

I've got a call from the Mentally Handicapped Anti-Defamation League on
line one for you. :-)

Are you a member of the NRA, or you are a partaker of that mentality
that bikers are fair game? Do you realize that the law of the jungle
that prevails on our roads should be replaced with rules of the roads,
and that all those sharing the road --bikes, motorcycles and cars--
should agree to it? Can't we all get along?


Shut up, Rotney :-)


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"John Kane" wrote in message
oups.com...

Certainly would have been. On the other hand do you really want a
bunch of 19 year old students, whooping it up in the local univ bars
and carrying all sorts of heavy weaponry when the males get into a
strutting contest? Hell, you'd probably lose more people on a normal
Saturday night.

We're talking about LEGALLY posessed firearms. In order to buy a handgun
you have to be at least 21. Also being in possesion of a firearm while
intoxicated is against the law where I live and probably is everywhere else
as well.

On 20 Apr 2007 10:51:26 -0700, donquijote1954
wrote:

On Apr 19, 8:51 pm, DougC wrote:
donquijote1954 wrote:

Still Bush defends the right to bear arms

EVEN as President George Bush told the nation he was praying for the
victims, and that the killings in a place of learning would affect
"every American classroom and community", a White House official said
Mr Bush continued to believe in the "right to bear arms".

Naaaa, guns are fun. Everybody should have one.

Regular people should be allowed to carry firearms if they want
to--*nothing* ruins a criminal's day faster than an armed victim.

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Here's a fun question (totally off-topic for this newsgroup)--narcotics
are already illegal in the USA and criminals don't have any problem
getting them; what makes you think that declaring guns illegal will get
rid of guns?

Anti-gun activists are (a few) liars and (the rest) fools.
Anyone telling you that they're going to *take* *away* some of your
rights to *protect* you is a liar--and if you believe it, you're a fool.

Two of the classic high-crime areas in the US are NYC and Washington
DC--and both of those places have handgun bans in effect.....

Come to think of it, narcotics is illegal in NYC and DC too, and guess
what?


Fine, let's legalize (or regulate) narcotics. But how your armed
citizens would have prevented this particular incident, an armed
professor or armed students?

Ummm.... they would have shot back ? Just a wild guess .....

This is fine in Switzerland where people are trained in the militias
and they take a rifle (not a handgun) home.

A full-auto one, I might add :-) And they DO have handguns
also.

So, you would have no problem with the National Guard here
taking their M-16's home, right ?

http://www.guncite.com/tpgswiss.html

Purchase of handguns is licensed on a "must issue" basis at the
cantonal (state) level, with "firearms purchase certificates" issued
to all adult residents without criminal records or history of mental
illness.

There are no restrictions on the carrying of long guns, and only
fifteen of the twenty-six cantons require carry permits for handguns
(which usually require that "necessity" for carrying the handgun be
demonstrated).

http://www.guncite.com/swiss_gun_law.html

http://www.theblessingsofliberty.com...article11.html

"More per capita firepower exists in Switzerland than in any other
place in the world, yet it is one of the safest places to be."

"While many shoot for sport, all males aged 20 to 42 are required by
militia system regulation to keep rifles and/or pistols at home."






But America can't even
make fine cheese! (or chocolate)


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On Apr 19, 8:56 pm, (Tom Keats) wrote:

Last Saturday night I was riding my bicycle around (unarmed),
to destinations where I became engaged in more creative
and sociable forms of debauchery.

You mean you enjoy sociable behavior, which is why you ride a bike,
but selfish people in cars (sometimes) make your day miserable. Have
you tried wearing horse blinders?

I wasn't in anybody's way -- drivers could easily pass me --
but just because I was there on a bicycle, I wouldn't be
surprised if I was cussed-out by some drivers for "being in
the way."

You must remember when riding a bike of how much Christ suffered at
the cross.

The thought of shooting anybody didn't enter my mind,
as per usual. I don't wanna hurt anybody. That's why
I ride a bike instead of driving a car.

Guns dont'
work that way.

It's an old, inherited, single-action revolver, with
the hammer stupidly sitting on a loaded chamber.

Squirt-gun "wars" on bikes can be kinda fun. Especially
on hot summer days. Actually, on hot summer days I'm not
above requesting people washing their cars on the curbside
to give me a squirt from their garden hoses as I ride by,
and they often gladly oblige. It's quite refreshing.
Especially after a bunch of urban hill climbing, like
escaping from New Westminster BC.

I see it like a quite an innocent activity, but my concern is that the
guy in the car sees you draw, and...

On Apr 19, 9:31 pm, "DI" wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote in message

ups.com...

"should cyclists pack guns"

This one does when the situation to need one might exist, and I do it
legally. But I'm not crazy and obsessed like Donquijote and would never
think about opening fire on a big bad evil SUV.

Well, they may not be evil but they can kill you easily and pollute
like they are alone in this world. You called that Christian behavior?

Keith Schiffner wrote the unintelligible jibber jabber:


Why for telling the truth? Don't ask what happened to the last Mass...what ever
those morons call themselves that tried one of their little trick when I when by
at the legal limit. Insurance is a good thing to have a vehicle why don't you
have it on that push bike?


Because it is not required by law.

Wayne

They are driving the monkey to the edge and there's no way to know
when he can explode...

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...hoots20Gun.gif

But the smart monkey knows better.

The smart monkey shows his cleverness...

The monkey knows that the lion is more powerful than him, and knows he
better use his own weapons, so he decides to be funny, that being his
natural gift. The story goes like this: The Hungry Lion roars:
"Monkey, I'm made to eat meat, so you better come down right now." And
the monkey replies very cool: "HUNGRY? YOU CAN EAT MY BANANA!"

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On Apr 19, 9:54 pm, John Kane wrote:
On Apr 19, 12:34 pm, wrote:





On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:18:19 -0400, Just A User

wrote:
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:51:02 -0400, Just A User
wrote:

Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack
job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the
constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K.
where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like
those at the campus on Monday.

Well, actually they do, but not in the quantity that the U.S. has, and
they seem to be somewhat less successful, even if the intent was
there. There have been incidents in Germany and Scotland and several
in Canada.

Starting this thread - often initiated by those who like to tell
everyone what they will do to this driver or another - is pretty much
stupid. Doing it today is what makes it tasteless to boot.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
I agree it's pretty tasteless, as I pointed out, until all guns are
banned and destroyed, these types of events will happen, but until that
time comes, control is the key.

Ken

Yeh, right. Let's only let the Government have them.

Where did you get that one, Mein Kampf ?

Don't you know any history? The Nazi introduced gun control about 5-6
years after attaining power. They were not particularally worried
about a few burgers with guns.

They know that the sheep won't use it against the wolf. They may use
it against the Black Sheep first.

On Apr 19, 10:05 pm, John Kane wrote:

Excellent ! He supports the Constitution and fundamental
rights now matter HOW much the left-wing nutters would like to ignore
those things in their never ending drive to engineer a society more to
their own liking !

Of course, you do realise that most
people (other than USA citizens) view your Constitution as an
amusing
anachronism?

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

I didn't know it was amusing.

A more updated version of it though would start with something like...


"We the Cyclists of the United States, ir order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common transportation, promote Traffic Laws and get rid of SUVs, etc,
etc..."