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Old August 26th 04, 06:42 PM
Bill
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I have used the Michelin maps of France for cycling
there, and I was wondering if any maps of that style
exist for parts of the US. Maps that show approximate
traffic volume (heavy, moderate, light), whether road is
paved or not, and steepness of hills, and at a useful
scale for biking (1:200,000). Anything like that?

Bill


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Old August 27th 04, 03:30 AM
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A newbie question.

Do this kind of maps indicate if there is car traffic? I would rather
not share roads with cars. If the maps show roads physically seperated
from car lanes, I would like to know.

"Bill" wrote in message . ..
I have used the Michelin maps of France for cycling
there, and I was wondering if any maps of that style
exist for parts of the US. Maps that show approximate
traffic volume (heavy, moderate, light), whether road is
paved or not, and steepness of hills, and at a useful
scale for biking (1:200,000). Anything like that?

Bill

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Old August 27th 04, 11:41 AM
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The Michelin maps do not show which roads have bike
lanes, nor do they show which roads have shoulders.

Bill

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A newbie question.

Do this kind of maps indicate if there is car traffic? I would rather
not share roads with cars. If the maps show roads physically seperated
from car lanes, I would like to know.

"Bill" wrote in message

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I have used the Michelin maps of France for cycling
there, and I was wondering if any maps of that style
exist for parts of the US. Maps that show approximate
traffic volume (heavy, moderate, light), whether road is
paved or not, and steepness of hills, and at a useful
scale for biking (1:200,000). Anything like that?

Bill



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Old August 27th 04, 04:24 PM
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"Bill" wrote in message . ..
I have used the Michelin maps of France for cycling
there, and I was wondering if any maps of that style
exist for parts of the US. Maps that show approximate
traffic volume (heavy, moderate, light), whether road is
paved or not, and steepness of hills, and at a useful
scale for biking (1:200,000). Anything like that?

Bill


Try adventure cycling accociation. Adventurecycling.org

They have maps similar to the Michelin maps you describe of their bike
routes. Nice if you want to do their route. Not nice if your
destination isn't.

Having driven around France with Michelin maps I wasn't aware they
indicated traffic volume. How is that shown on the map?

In the us divided highways are shown with wider lines. The smaller the
road the narrower the line will be. A smaller route doesn't always
mean less traffic. County routes and state routes (usually displayed
differently, look at the map key for how they are marked) are
typically what you want to look for. However in some places interstate
highways permit cyclists to ride on the shoulder. Usually because it
is the only route through an area and it is not a heavy volume area.

Hope this helps,
Andy
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Old August 27th 04, 06:46 PM
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High volume roads are shown in red, moderate volume roads
in yellow, and low volume roads in white.

Bill


Having driven around France with Michelin maps I wasn't aware they
indicated traffic volume. How is that shown on the map?



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Old August 29th 04, 11:37 PM
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I have used the Michelin maps of France for cycling
there, and I was wondering if any maps of that style
exist for parts of the US. Maps that show approximate
traffic volume (heavy, moderate, light), whether road is
paved or not, and steepness of hills, and at a useful
scale for biking (1:200,000). Anything like that?


I like the detail found on the Michelin maps, but trying to read them with
48-year-old eyes... that's another thing entirely. I find they cram too
much into too small an area for my taste. I did find a way around that on
my most-recent trip to France though. I had a small PDA (Dell Axim X30)
that's got a pretty decent screen and is very light, so I took digital
photos of the maps and put them onto the PDA. With the ability to blow
enlarge them, they became amazingly more readable.

But no, there are no widely-available maps like that in the US. You may
find locally-produced maps with that sort of information though; Krebs, for
example, produces such maps for cyclists and covers many areas of Northern
California.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


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I have used the Michelin maps of France for cycling
there, and I was wondering if any maps of that style
exist for parts of the US. Maps that show approximate
traffic volume (heavy, moderate, light), whether road is
paved or not, and steepness of hills, and at a useful
scale for biking (1:200,000). Anything like that?

Bill




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Old August 29th 04, 11:37 PM
Mike Jacoubowsky
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I have used the Michelin maps of France for cycling
there, and I was wondering if any maps of that style
exist for parts of the US. Maps that show approximate
traffic volume (heavy, moderate, light), whether road is
paved or not, and steepness of hills, and at a useful
scale for biking (1:200,000). Anything like that?


I like the detail found on the Michelin maps, but trying to read them with
48-year-old eyes... that's another thing entirely. I find they cram too
much into too small an area for my taste. I did find a way around that on
my most-recent trip to France though. I had a small PDA (Dell Axim X30)
that's got a pretty decent screen and is very light, so I took digital
photos of the maps and put them onto the PDA. With the ability to blow
enlarge them, they became amazingly more readable.

But no, there are no widely-available maps like that in the US. You may
find locally-produced maps with that sort of information though; Krebs, for
example, produces such maps for cyclists and covers many areas of Northern
California.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


"Bill" wrote in message
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I have used the Michelin maps of France for cycling
there, and I was wondering if any maps of that style
exist for parts of the US. Maps that show approximate
traffic volume (heavy, moderate, light), whether road is
paved or not, and steepness of hills, and at a useful
scale for biking (1:200,000). Anything like that?

Bill




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Old August 30th 04, 01:33 AM
Mike Latondresse
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in
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I like the detail found on the Michelin maps, but trying to read
them with 48-year-old eyes... that's another thing entirely. I
find they cram too much into too small an area for my taste.


I found that the Michelin maps of Italy had nowhere near the detail of
the French ones, so perhaps make your next trip to Italy and save your
eyes.
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Old August 30th 04, 01:33 AM
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in
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I like the detail found on the Michelin maps, but trying to read
them with 48-year-old eyes... that's another thing entirely. I
find they cram too much into too small an area for my taste.


I found that the Michelin maps of Italy had nowhere near the detail of
the French ones, so perhaps make your next trip to Italy and save your
eyes.
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Old August 31st 04, 08:05 PM
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
I have used the Michelin maps of France for cycling
there, and I was wondering if any maps of that style
exist for parts of the US. Maps that show approximate
traffic volume (heavy, moderate, light), whether road is
paved or not, and steepness of hills, and at a useful
scale for biking (1:200,000). Anything like that?



I like the detail found on the Michelin maps, but trying to read them with
48-year-old eyes... that's another thing entirely. I find they cram too
much into too small an area for my taste. I did find a way around that on
my most-recent trip to France though. I had a small PDA (Dell Axim X30)
that's got a pretty decent screen and is very light, so I took digital
photos of the maps and put them onto the PDA. With the ability to blow
enlarge them, they became amazingly more readable.

But no, there are no widely-available maps like that in the US. You may
find locally-produced maps with that sort of information though; Krebs, for
example, produces such maps for cyclists and covers many areas of Northern
California.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


"Bill" wrote in message
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I have used the Michelin maps of France for cycling
there, and I was wondering if any maps of that style
exist for parts of the US. Maps that show approximate
traffic volume (heavy, moderate, light), whether road is
paved or not, and steepness of hills, and at a useful
scale for biking (1:200,000). Anything like that?

Bill






This level of detail is what makes Michelin maps such good maps ! I
almost never got lost with a 1:200'000 Michelin, although it covers an
area wide enough to cycle several days. But for your old eyes (mines
will follow soon...), they now make enlarged versions at scale
1:130'000. No more details, but everything is just bigger.

Jacques
 




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