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Old February 15th 12, 08:19 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.transport,uk.rec.cycling
Steve Firth
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Cyclists, we are told by some, may ride like idiots because they don't
kill people, or the people they kill are "drunks" or indeed any pathetic
excuse that will serve at the time rather than admit that killer
cyclists are killers.

Killed by a cyclist, buried away in the news, and the Killer Cyclist
walks away free with minor injury in an incident that he caused -
reckless overtaking of a bus resulted in the death of a decent man.

Fernando Izquierdo, run down by a dumb-arsed lycra-lout and killed.

video here, from 12:12...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ned_Episode_2/

Report here, and note the way that the report by the CTC puts the usual
spin on it, claiming the cyclist collided with the bicycle, not the
truth that a reckless cyclist ran into the innocent pedestrian:

http://www.stop-smidsy.org.uk/case-s...-cyclist-21411
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Old February 15th 12, 09:27 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.transport,uk.rec.cycling
Richard McKenzie
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On Feb 15, 8:19*am, (Steve Firth) wrote:
Cyclists, we are told by some, may ride like idiots because they don't
kill people, or the people they kill are "drunks" or indeed any pathetic
excuse that will serve at the time rather than admit that killer
cyclists are killers.

Killed by a cyclist, buried away in the news, and the Killer Cyclist
walks away free with minor injury in an incident that he caused -
reckless overtaking of a bus resulted in the death of a decent man.

Fernando Izquierdo, run down by a dumb-arsed lycra-lout and killed.

video here, from 12:12...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...xplained_Episo...

Report here, and note the way that the report by the CTC puts the usual
spin on it, claiming the cyclist collided with the bicycle, not the
truth that a reckless cyclist ran into the innocent pedestrian:

http://www.stop-smidsy.org.uk/case-s...erdo-killed-co...


At least with motorists they must pass a test before they can get a
licence, yet any idiot can buy a bike and ride it like an idiot
without due care and attention.
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Old February 15th 12, 09:53 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.transport,uk.rec.cycling
Bertie Wooster[_2_]
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Default Another Killer Cyclist walks free

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:19:07 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Cyclists, we are told by some, may ride like idiots because they don't
kill people, or the people they kill are "drunks" or indeed any pathetic
excuse that will serve at the time rather than admit that killer
cyclists are killers.

Killed by a cyclist, buried away in the news, and the Killer Cyclist
walks away free with minor injury in an incident that he caused -
reckless overtaking of a bus resulted in the death of a decent man.

Fernando Izquierdo, run down by a dumb-arsed lycra-lout and killed.

video here, from 12:12...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ned_Episode_2/

Report here, and note the way that the report by the CTC puts the usual
spin on it, claiming the cyclist collided with the bicycle, not the
truth that a reckless cyclist ran into the innocent pedestrian:

http://www.stop-smidsy.org.uk/case-s...-cyclist-21411


Nice troll, Steve. I love the language you use:
"dumb-arsed lycra-lout";
"Killer Cyclist";
"reckless cyclist".

However, video evidence tells a different story. Four onboard camera
show precise details of the cyclist, and the late Mr Izquierdo's final
movements.

The cyclist passed the stationary bus with good clearance and would
have been visible to Mr Izquierdo as he approached the kerb. According
to the police expert, the cyclist reacted in less than a second, but
Mr Izquierdo who probably had looked, had not seen him.
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Old February 15th 12, 10:06 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.transport,uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_3_]
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Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:19:07 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Cyclists, we are told by some, may ride like idiots because they
don't kill people, or the people they kill are "drunks" or indeed
any pathetic excuse that will serve at the time rather than admit
that killer cyclists are killers.

Killed by a cyclist, buried away in the news, and the Killer Cyclist
walks away free with minor injury in an incident that he caused -
reckless overtaking of a bus resulted in the death of a decent man.

Fernando Izquierdo, run down by a dumb-arsed lycra-lout and killed.

video here, from 12:12...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ned_Episode_2/

Report here, and note the way that the report by the CTC puts the
usual spin on it, claiming the cyclist collided with the bicycle,
not the truth that a reckless cyclist ran into the innocent
pedestrian:

http://www.stop-smidsy.org.uk/case-s...-cyclist-21411


Nice troll, Steve. I love the language you use:
"dumb-arsed lycra-lout";
"Killer Cyclist";
"reckless cyclist".

However, video evidence tells a different story. Four onboard camera
show precise details of the cyclist, and the late Mr Izquierdo's final
movements.

The cyclist passed the stationary bus with good clearance and would
have been visible to Mr Izquierdo as he approached the kerb. According
to the police expert, the cyclist reacted in less than a second, but
Mr Izquierdo who probably had looked, had not seen him.


so the cyclist was riding without due care and attention, also known as
'careless cycling' since he was travelling too fast to be able to stop in
the distance he could see to be clear. (I am assuming that the deceased did
not fall from the sky)


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Old February 15th 12, 10:41 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.transport,uk.rec.cycling
johannes[_39_]
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Bertie Wooster wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:19:07 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Cyclists, we are told by some, may ride like idiots because they don't
kill people, or the people they kill are "drunks" or indeed any pathetic
excuse that will serve at the time rather than admit that killer
cyclists are killers.

Killed by a cyclist, buried away in the news, and the Killer Cyclist
walks away free with minor injury in an incident that he caused -
reckless overtaking of a bus resulted in the death of a decent man.

Fernando Izquierdo, run down by a dumb-arsed lycra-lout and killed.

video here, from 12:12...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ned_Episode_2/

Report here, and note the way that the report by the CTC puts the usual
spin on it, claiming the cyclist collided with the bicycle, not the
truth that a reckless cyclist ran into the innocent pedestrian:

http://www.stop-smidsy.org.uk/case-s...-cyclist-21411


Nice troll, Steve. I love the language you use:
"dumb-arsed lycra-lout";
"Killer Cyclist";
"reckless cyclist".

However, video evidence tells a different story. Four onboard camera
show precise details of the cyclist, and the late Mr Izquierdo's final
movements.

The cyclist passed the stationary bus with good clearance and would
have been visible to Mr Izquierdo as he approached the kerb. According
to the police expert, the cyclist reacted in less than a second, but
Mr Izquierdo who probably had looked, had not seen him.


But the cyclist in lycra was belting it past the bus. He may not have
exceeded the speed limit on the street, but was going too fast for the
conditions.
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Old February 15th 12, 10:53 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_4_]
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Default Another Killer Cyclist walks free

On Feb 15, 10:41*am, johannes
wrote:

But the cyclist in lycra was belting it past the bus. He may not have
exceeded the speed limit on the street, but was going too fast for the
conditions.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Speed limits do not apply to cyclists, I'm afraid.

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Old February 15th 12, 11:05 AM posted to uk.legal,uk.transport,uk.rec.cycling
Bertie Wooster[_2_]
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:06:22 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:19:07 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Cyclists, we are told by some, may ride like idiots because they
don't kill people, or the people they kill are "drunks" or indeed
any pathetic excuse that will serve at the time rather than admit
that killer cyclists are killers.

Killed by a cyclist, buried away in the news, and the Killer Cyclist
walks away free with minor injury in an incident that he caused -
reckless overtaking of a bus resulted in the death of a decent man.

Fernando Izquierdo, run down by a dumb-arsed lycra-lout and killed.

video here, from 12:12...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ned_Episode_2/

Report here, and note the way that the report by the CTC puts the
usual spin on it, claiming the cyclist collided with the bicycle,
not the truth that a reckless cyclist ran into the innocent
pedestrian:

http://www.stop-smidsy.org.uk/case-s...-cyclist-21411


Nice troll, Steve. I love the language you use:
"dumb-arsed lycra-lout";
"Killer Cyclist";
"reckless cyclist".

However, video evidence tells a different story. Four onboard camera
show precise details of the cyclist, and the late Mr Izquierdo's final
movements.

The cyclist passed the stationary bus with good clearance and would
have been visible to Mr Izquierdo as he approached the kerb. According
to the police expert, the cyclist reacted in less than a second, but
Mr Izquierdo who probably had looked, had not seen him.


so the cyclist was riding without due care and attention, also known as
'careless cycling' since he was travelling too fast to be able to stop in
the distance he could see to be clear. (I am assuming that the deceased did
not fall from the sky)


There is nothing in the video to suggest that the cyclist could not
stop in the distance he could see to be clear. Video evidence suggests
that the hapless Mr Izquierdo stepped in front of the cyclist, making
the distance infront of the cyclist unclear.

The cyclist's error was not to anticipate Mr Izquierdo's actions.
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Old February 15th 12, 11:12 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mr. Benn[_9_]
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"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...
On Feb 15, 10:41 am, johannes
wrote:

But the cyclist in lycra was belting it past the bus. He may not have
exceeded the speed limit on the street, but was going too fast for the
conditions.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Speed limits do not apply to cyclists, I'm afraid.


"He may not have exceeded the speed limit on the street, but was going too
fast for the conditions."

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Old February 15th 12, 11:23 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_3_]
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Mr. Benn wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...
On Feb 15, 10:41 am, johannes
wrote:

But the cyclist in lycra was belting it past the bus. He may not
have exceeded the speed limit on the street, but was going too fast
for the conditions.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Speed limits do not apply to cyclists, I'm afraid.


"He may not have exceeded the speed limit on the street, but was
going too fast for the conditions."


so 'careless cycling' or 'wanton and furious' charges would have been
appropriate.


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Old February 15th 12, 11:34 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_4_]
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On Feb 15, 11:05*am, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:06:22 -0000, "Mrcheerful"





wrote:
Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:19:07 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:


Cyclists, we are told by some, may ride like idiots because they
don't kill people, or the people they kill are "drunks" or indeed
any pathetic excuse that will serve at the time rather than admit
that killer cyclists are killers.


Killed by a cyclist, buried away in the news, and the Killer Cyclist
walks away free with minor injury in an incident that he caused -
reckless overtaking of a bus resulted in the death of a decent man.


Fernando Izquierdo, run down by a dumb-arsed lycra-lout and killed.


video here, from 12:12...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...xplained_Episo....


Report here, and note the way that the report by the CTC puts the
usual spin on it, claiming the cyclist collided with the bicycle,
not the truth that a reckless cyclist ran into the innocent
pedestrian:


http://www.stop-smidsy.org.uk/case-s...erdo-killed-co....


Nice troll, Steve. I love the language you use:
"dumb-arsed lycra-lout";
"Killer Cyclist";
"reckless cyclist".


However, video evidence tells a different story. Four onboard camera
show precise details of the cyclist, and the late Mr Izquierdo's final
movements.


The cyclist passed the stationary bus with good clearance and would
have been visible to Mr Izquierdo as he approached the kerb. According
to the police expert, the cyclist reacted in less than a second, but
Mr Izquierdo who probably had looked, had not seen him.


so the cyclist was riding without due care and attention, also known as
'careless cycling' since he was travelling too fast to be able to stop in
the distance he could see to be clear. *(I am assuming that the deceased did
not fall from the sky)


There is nothing in the video to suggest that the cyclist could not
stop in the distance he could see to be clear. Video evidence suggests
that the hapless Mr Izquierdo stepped in front of the cyclist, making
the distance infront of the cyclist unclear.

The cyclist's error was not to anticipate Mr Izquierdo's actions.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


He would have to be a mindreader to do that.
Or psychic.

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