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How not to overtake a cyclist and horse rider
The full video was posted in the Pass wide and slow Facebook group (link is external), who say they are a "group to TRY educating drivers on how and why to pass horses." This driver got in between the support cyclist and horse rider before having a look at overtaking, but thankfully waits when a car coming in the opposite direction appears around the bend. In the end the horse rider signals they are turning right and the driver stays where they are.
In the video, a man in the vehicle following can be heard saying to ring the windows and doors company whose van it appears to be. Under the video, Laura Jenkins replied: "I was actually more concerned for the cyclist. The driver passed them too close and totally cut them up and pulled in front of them." Bob Jewell also pointed out "He overtook the cyclist at the central reservation, means he did not give her enough safe room. As well as being too close to the horse." https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-22871 |
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How not to overtake a cyclist and horse rider
On 22/02/2021 11:55, wrote:
The full video was posted in the Pass wide and slow Facebook group (link is external), who say they are a "group to TRY educating drivers on how and why to pass horses." This driver got in between the support cyclist and horse rider before having a look at overtaking, but thankfully waits when a car coming in the opposite direction appears around the bend. In the end the horse rider signals they are turning right and the driver stays where they are. In the video, a man in the vehicle following can be heard saying to ring the windows and doors company whose van it appears to be. Under the video, Laura Jenkins replied: "I was actually more concerned for the cyclist. The driver passed them too close and totally cut them up and pulled in front of them." Bob Jewell also pointed out "He overtook the cyclist at the central reservation, means he did not give her enough safe room. As well as being too close to the horse." https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-22871 Don't forget, drivers when wishing to overtake have precedence and are at liberty to ignore any other highway code rule! 2.Overtaking Rule 162. Before overtaking you should make sure ● the road is sufficiently clear ahead ● road users are not beginning to overtake you ● there is a suitable gap in front of the road user you plan to overtake. Rule 163. Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should ● not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake ● use your mirrors, signal when it is safe to do so, take a quick sideways glance if necessary into the blind spot area and then start to move out ● not assume that you can simply follow a vehicle ahead which is overtaking; there may only be enough room for one vehicle ● move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in ● take extra care at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance ● give way to oncoming vehicles before passing parked vehicles or other obstructions on your side of the road ● only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so ● stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left ● give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211 to 213 and 214 to 215). Remember: Mirrors – Signal – Manoeuvre |
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How not to overtake a cyclist and horse rider
On 22/02/2021 11:55, wrote:
The full video was posted in the Pass wide and slow Facebook group (link is external), https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-22871 Sorry, what is the problem? At the start of the video the van was ahead of the cyclist with its wheels over the white line before it reached the island. |
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How not to overtake a cyclist and horse rider
On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 1:46:43 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote:
On 22/02/2021 11:55, wrote: The full video was posted in the Pass wide and slow Facebook group (link is external), https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-22871 Sorry, what is the problem? At the start of the video the van was ahead of the cyclist with its wheels over the white line before it reached the island. 130 Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right. If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary. |
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How not to overtake a cyclist and horse rider
On 22/02/2021 12:36 pm, colwyn wrote:
On 22/02/2021 11:55, wrote: The full video was posted in the Pass wide and slow Facebook group (link is external), who say they are a "group to TRY educating drivers on how and why to pass horses." This driver got in between the support cyclist and horse rider before having a look at overtaking, but thankfully waits when a car coming in the opposite direction appears around the bend. In the end the horse rider signals they are turning right and the driver stays where they are. In the video, a man in the vehicle following can be heard saying to ring the windows and doors company whose van it appears to be. Under the video, Laura Jenkins replied: "I was actually more concerned for the cyclist. The driver passed them too close and totally cut them up and pulled in front of them." Bob Jewell also pointed out "He overtook the cyclist at the central reservation, means he did not give her enough safe room. As well as being too close to the horse." https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-22871 Don't forget, drivers when wishing to overtake have precedence and are at liberty to ignore any other highway code rule! 2.Overtaking Rule 162. Before overtaking you should make sure ● the road is sufficiently clear ahead ● road users are not beginning to overtake you ● there is a suitable gap in front of the road user you plan to overtake. Rule 163. Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should ● not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake ● use your mirrors, signal when it is safe to do so, take a quick sideways glance if necessary into the blind spot area and then start to move out ● not assume that you can simply follow a vehicle ahead which is overtaking; there may only be enough room for one vehicle ● move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in ● take extra care at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance ● give way to oncoming vehicles before passing parked vehicles or other obstructions on your side of the road ● only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so ● stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left ● give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211 to 213 and 214 to 215). Remember: Mirrors – Signal – Manoeuvre Don't forget though: horses, now matter how well-trained and apparently docile, are dumb animals. One rightly expects less from them than one has a right to expect from human cyclists and so should exercise more caution around horses. I hope I'm not wrong about cyclists being more intelligent and less unpredictable than horses. And I don't think I am wrong about that. |
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How not to overtake a cyclist and horse rider
On 22/02/2021 14:01, wrote:
On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 1:46:43 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote: On 22/02/2021 11:55, wrote: The full video was posted in the Pass wide and slow Facebook group (link is external), https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-22871 Sorry, what is the problem? At the start of the video the van was ahead of the cyclist with its wheels over the white line before it reached the island. 130 Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right. If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary. Guidance, not rule. I still don't understand the problem. |
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How not to overtake a cyclist and horse rider
On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 5:16:20 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote:
On 22/02/2021 14:01, wrote: On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 1:46:43 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote: On 22/02/2021 11:55, wrote: The full video was posted in the Pass wide and slow Facebook group (link is external), https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-22871 Sorry, what is the problem? At the start of the video the van was ahead of the cyclist with its wheels over the white line before it reached the island. 130 Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right. If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary. Guidance, not rule. I still don't understand the problem. An eye witness, who was actually there said: Laura Jenkins replied: "I was actually more concerned for the cyclist. The driver passed them too close and totally cut them up and pulled in front of them." Bob Jewell also pointed out "He overtook the cyclist at the central reservation, means he did not give her enough safe room. As well as being too close to the horse." |
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How not to overtake a cyclist and horse rider
On 22/02/2021 17:18, wrote:
On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 5:16:20 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote: On 22/02/2021 14:01, wrote: On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 1:46:43 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote: On 22/02/2021 11:55, wrote: The full video was posted in the Pass wide and slow Facebook group (link is external), https://road.cc/content/news/cycling...log-item-22871 Sorry, what is the problem? At the start of the video the van was ahead of the cyclist with its wheels over the white line before it reached the island. 130 Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right. If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary. Guidance, not rule. I still don't understand the problem. An eye witness, who was actually there said: Laura Jenkins replied: "I was actually more concerned for the cyclist. The driver passed them too close and totally cut them up and pulled in front of them." Bob Jewell also pointed out "He overtook the cyclist at the central reservation, means he did not give her enough safe room. As well as being too close to the horse." A video clip that can be examined in slow time is a more reliable witness. If you have a camera, you must have replayed things and noticed things you missed at the time. |
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How not to overtake a cyclist and horse rider
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 10:31:43 AM UTC, TMS320 wrote:
A video clip that can be examined in slow time is a more reliable witness. If you have a camera, you must have replayed things and noticed things you missed at the time. A few newspaper photographers and their editors were reported to the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO) for using lenses that showed cyclists being "bunched up" when they were in fact well socially distanced. QUOTE: The body upheld a complaint about the use of a photo that gave a distorted impression of the distance between cyclists, concluding it was clear they were actually at least two metres apart. https://road.cc/content/news/mirror-...rs-code-280689 |
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How not to overtake a cyclist and horse rider
On 23/02/2021 11:31, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 10:31:43 AM UTC, TMS320 wrote: A video clip that can be examined in slow time is a more reliable witness. If you have a camera, you must have replayed things and noticed things you missed at the time. A few newspaper photographers and their editors were reported to the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO) for using lenses that showed cyclists being "bunched up" when they were in fact well socially distanced. The same as the views of beaches last summer. It's easy to work that sort of thing out. Nothing like that here. The person on the bike doesn't even behave as though under distress. |
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