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London pollution warning.
On Mar 26, 9:16*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote: On Mar 25, 1:01 pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Doug wrote: For several days now there have been moderate pollution warnings but today, Friday, this has turned to 'High' and people are advised to stay indoors. So cyclists beware and we can thank the many motorists on our roads for contributing to that harmful pollution. the air quality monitoring thingy shows all of London as green, so all ok actually:http://www.londonair.org.uk/london/asp/default.asp Are you on a different planet to me? The zones coloured red show a high level of pollution for the 25th. I usehttp://www.airtext.info/which give daily text reports when pollution rises to 'moderate' (most of the time) to 'high' yesterday. Doug. yes, most people are on a different planet to you !! *However, that site was showing all green when I posted. *It shows all red today, and no index for yesterday, perhaps it is not very good, airtext shows all green today, one of them is very wrong. So that is your excuse for continuing to contribute to harmful air pollution. Doug. |
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On Mar 27, 3:45*pm, Matt B wrote:
On 26/03/2011 18:09, Tony Raven wrote: *wrote: Drivers can be exposed to even higher levels of health-damaging pollutants than those experienced by cyclists and pedestrians. so cyclists do not need to whinge about it as they have less of it to breathe than car drivers suffer. That's a bit like saying that passive smokers have no need to complain because they breathe less smoke than smokers. IIRC, there was a 40-year study carried out in America that followed the lives of 100,000, or more, couples - where one smoked and one didn't, comparing them with couples where neither smoked, and that it showed that the non-smokers living with smokers showed an insignificant increased risk of developing a serious smoke-related illness over non-smokers who lived with non-smokers for the same period. Was this conducted by the tobacco industry? Surely though the gases escaping from nearby fuel burning vehicles must have more passive effect than nearby ciggies. Doug |
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Peter Keller wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:48:17 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/03/2011 23:24, Tony Raven wrote: Peter wrote: I also am not in favour of restricting people's freedoms to live life and be happy, providing those people do not interfere with other people's similar rights. "If I'm in a restaurant and I'm eating and somebody says, 'Hey, mind if I smoke,' I always ask, "No, mind if I fart?" - Steve Martin We could of course have had 'choice'. But that wasn't the point of the legislation. That is his choice, though by such an action he seems to show that he does mind if that person smokes. So why not be honest and say so? Rather than a retaliatory measure of farting ... HINT: Steve Martin is a comedian and it was said in a comedy sketch. -- Tony |
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On 28 Mar 2011 07:47:02 GMT, Tony Raven wrote:
Peter Keller wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:48:17 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/03/2011 23:24, Tony Raven wrote: Peter wrote: I also am not in favour of restricting people's freedoms to live life and be happy, providing those people do not interfere with other people's similar rights. "If I'm in a restaurant and I'm eating and somebody says, 'Hey, mind if I smoke,' I always ask, "No, mind if I fart?" - Steve Martin We could of course have had 'choice'. But that wasn't the point of the legislation. That is his choice, though by such an action he seems to show that he does mind if that person smokes. So why not be honest and say so? Rather than a retaliatory measure of farting ... HINT: Steve Martin is a comedian and it was said in a comedy sketch. Relevance : nil HINT : Tony Ravin is a ****. -- "Then back to my club on Pall Mall " Tony Raven - pretentious tosser |
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On 28/03/2011 08:39, Doug wrote:
On Mar 27, 3:45 pm, Matt wrote: On 26/03/2011 18:09, Tony Raven wrote: wrote: Drivers can be exposed to even higher levels of health-damaging pollutants than those experienced by cyclists and pedestrians. so cyclists do not need to whinge about it as they have less of it to breathe than car drivers suffer. That's a bit like saying that passive smokers have no need to complain because they breathe less smoke than smokers. IIRC, there was a 40-year study carried out in America that followed the lives of 100,000, or more, couples - where one smoked and one didn't, comparing them with couples where neither smoked, and that it showed that the non-smokers living with smokers showed an insignificant increased risk of developing a serious smoke-related illness over non-smokers who lived with non-smokers for the same period. Was this conducted by the tobacco industry? Would that matter, or make a difference? Surely though the gases escaping from nearby fuel burning vehicles must have more passive effect than nearby ciggies. And yet society has decided that, despite that consequential potential health hazard, not only will they tolerate motor vehicle use (as some would tobacco use), but that they will actively demand and rely upon it. London, for instance, would quickly cease to function if the most polluting vehicles (buses, taxis and goods vehicles) were barred from the streets. -- Matt B |
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On 28/03/2011 08:21, Peter Keller wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:48:17 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/03/2011 23:24, Tony Raven wrote: Peter wrote: I also am not in favour of restricting people's freedoms to live life and be happy, providing those people do not interfere with other people's similar rights. "If I'm in a restaurant and I'm eating and somebody says, 'Hey, mind if I smoke,' I always ask, "No, mind if I fart?" - Steve Martin We could of course have had 'choice'. But that wasn't the point of the legislation. That is his choice, though by such an action he seems to show that he does mind if that person smokes. So why not be honest and say so? Rather than a retaliatory measure of farting ... I think there may a bit of the old Chinese Whispers at work there, as well as a possible urban myth. The first time I ever heard that story it was told in the first person by Jasper Carrott at a live gig in Warrington, c. 1978. The way he told it (and this predates both the international fame of Steve Martin and the advent of "Saturday Night Live") was that when asked if it was alright to smoke, he replied: "Do you mind if I fart?", prefaced by no explicit or implied consent to the smoke pollution.The implication was that if the other person was offended by the return question and its directness of language, it ws supposed to make him stop and think. |
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On 28/03/2011 08:39, Doug wrote:
On Mar 27, 3:45 pm, Matt wrote: On 26/03/2011 18:09, Tony Raven wrote: wrote: Drivers can be exposed to even higher levels of health-damaging pollutants than those experienced by cyclists and pedestrians. so cyclists do not need to whinge about it as they have less of it to breathe than car drivers suffer. That's a bit like saying that passive smokers have no need to complain because they breathe less smoke than smokers. IIRC, there was a 40-year study carried out in America that followed the lives of 100,000, or more, couples - where one smoked and one didn't, comparing them with couples where neither smoked, and that it showed that the non-smokers living with smokers showed an insignificant increased risk of developing a serious smoke-related illness over non-smokers who lived with non-smokers for the same period. Was this conducted by the tobacco industry? Surely though the gases escaping from nearby fuel burning vehicles must have more passive effect than nearby ciggies. Especially from old Landrovers with knackered engines (worn out enough that they might as well be left to rot in the North African desert). |
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On Mar 28, 8:34*am, Doug wrote:
On Mar 26, 9:16*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Doug wrote: On Mar 25, 1:01 pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Doug wrote: For several days now there have been moderate pollution warnings but today, Friday, this has turned to 'High' and people are advised to stay indoors. So cyclists beware and we can thank the many motorists on our roads for contributing to that harmful pollution. the air quality monitoring thingy shows all of London as green, so all ok actually:http://www.londonair.org.uk/london/asp/default.asp Are you on a different planet to me? The zones coloured red show a high level of pollution for the 25th. I usehttp://www.airtext.info/whichgive daily text reports when pollution rises to 'moderate' (most of the time) to 'high' yesterday. Doug. yes, most people are on a different planet to you !! *However, that site was showing all green when I posted. *It shows all red today, and no index for yesterday, perhaps it is not very good, airtext shows all green today, one of them is very wrong. So that is your excuse for continuing to contribute to harmful air pollution. Doug. What's your excuse for posting lies on usenet? |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:35:17 +0100, Judith wrote:
On 28 Mar 2011 07:47:02 GMT, Tony Raven wrote: Peter Keller wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:48:17 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/03/2011 23:24, Tony Raven wrote: Peter wrote: I also am not in favour of restricting people's freedoms to live life and be happy, providing those people do not interfere with other people's similar rights. "If I'm in a restaurant and I'm eating and somebody says, 'Hey, mind if I smoke,' I always ask, "No, mind if I fart?" - Steve Martin We could of course have had 'choice'. But that wasn't the point of the legislation. That is his choice, though by such an action he seems to show that he does mind if that person smokes. So why not be honest and say so? Rather than a retaliatory measure of farting ... HINT: Steve Martin is a comedian and it was said in a comedy sketch. Relevance : nil HINT : Tony Ravin is a ****. Oh what an honour to be ****ted by the Judith. -- snip -- 67.4% of statistics are made up. |
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