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Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?
"the driver cut in as he overtook me.
"I shouted out a warning and knocked on the roof of the car, but the driver continued to cut in and struck the bike, causing me to fall to the pavement." If you have time enough to shout and bang on the car, then why on Earth are you not keeping your hands on the handlebars and braking? He sounds like a Simon, an accident waiting to happen http://www.getwokingham.co.uk/news/s...t_poor_driving |
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Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?
On Nov 16, 8:31*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
"the driver cut in as he overtook me. "I shouted out a warning and knocked on the roof of the car, but the driver continued to cut in and struck the bike, causing me to fall to the *pavement." If you have time enough to shout and bang on the car, then why on Earth are you not keeping your hands on the handlebars and braking? He sounds like a Simon, an accident waiting to happen http://www.getwokingham.co.uk/news/s...ury_at_poor_dr... So you have no comment on the hit and run motorist. |
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Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?
Squashme wrote:
On Nov 16, 8:31 am, "Mrcheerful" wrote: "the driver cut in as he overtook me. "I shouted out a warning and knocked on the roof of the car, but the driver continued to cut in and struck the bike, causing me to fall to the pavement." If you have time enough to shout and bang on the car, then why on Earth are you not keeping your hands on the handlebars and braking? He sounds like a Simon, an accident waiting to happen http://www.getwokingham.co.uk/news/s...ury_at_poor_dr... So you have no comment on the hit and run motorist. The alledged etc. The injury to the cyclist was caused by his own stupidity in not braking to avoid something and compounding the problem by having fixed his feet to the pedals, which precluded putting his foot down easily. The ability to hold yourself upright when stopped is a fairly important one when riding a bicycle. |
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Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?
On Nov 16, 8:52*am, Squashme wrote:
On Nov 16, 8:31*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote: "the driver cut in as he overtook me. "I shouted out a warning and knocked on the roof of the car, but the driver continued to cut in and struck the bike, causing me to fall to the *pavement." If you have time enough to shout and bang on the car, then why on Earth are you not keeping your hands on the handlebars and braking? He sounds like a Simon, an accident waiting to happen http://www.getwokingham.co.uk/news/s...ury_at_poor_dr... So you have no comment on the hit and run motorist. Last time I had an accident I made 5000 quid out of the driver's insurance :-) -- Simon Mason |
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Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?
On 16/11/2011 09:46, Mrcheerful wrote:
Squashme wrote: On Nov 16, 8:31 am, wrote: "the driver cut in as he overtook me. "I shouted out a warning and knocked on the roof of the car, but the driver continued to cut in and struck the bike, causing me to fall to the pavement." If you have time enough to shout and bang on the car, then why on Earth are you not keeping your hands on the handlebars and braking? He sounds like a Simon, an accident waiting to happen http://www.getwokingham.co.uk/news/s...ury_at_poor_dr... So you have no comment on the hit and run motorist. The alledged etc. The injury to the cyclist was caused by his own stupidity in not braking to avoid something and compounding the problem by having fixed his feet to the pedals, which precluded putting his foot down easily. The ability to hold yourself upright when stopped is a fairly important one when riding a bicycle. If you moving at a fair pace and an overtaking driver is sideswiping, you need to move over to the left and brake at the same time. You need that space on the left. That’s why you need to be a good metre from the kerb. In this case the cyclist seemed to think that by bashing the roof of the car it would alert the driver to the fact he was passing too close. It does not work. All it does is aggravate the driver. I suspect that the cyclist had little choice in what he could have done. It sounds as if he was already too close to the kerb. If he was further out, the driver may not have been able to get by, but if the driver had tried to get by, there would have been some plan B space to the left for avoidance and braking. -- Simon For personal replies, please use my reply-to address. |
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Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?
On Nov 16, 9:46*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
The alledged etc. The injury to the cyclist was caused by his own stupidity in not braking to avoid something and compounding the problem by having fixed his feet to the pedals, which precluded putting his foot down easily. *The ability to hold yourself upright when stopped is a fairly important one when riding a bicycle. Oh, you make it sound so easy. You clearly have minimal experience of cycling, let alone how such circumstances develop.Stop pontificating and go away. |
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Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?
On Nov 17, 12:10 am, dr6092 wrote:
On Nov 16, 9:46 am, "Mrcheerful" wrote: The alledged etc. The injury to the cyclist was caused by his own stupidity in not braking to avoid something and compounding the problem by having fixed his feet to the pedals, which precluded putting his foot down easily. The ability to hold yourself upright when stopped is a fairly important one when riding a bicycle. Oh, you make it sound so easy. You clearly have minimal experience of cycling, let alone how such circumstances develop.Stop pontificating and go away. Not only does Cheerless never cycle himself, he never even sees any cyclist at all these days in the hovel he calls home. Can't understand why he gets worked up over something that does not concern him at all. -- Simon Mason http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ |
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Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?
dr6092 wrote:
On Nov 16, 9:46 am, "Mrcheerful" wrote: The alledged etc. The injury to the cyclist was caused by his own stupidity in not braking to avoid something and compounding the problem by having fixed his feet to the pedals, which precluded putting his foot down easily. The ability to hold yourself upright when stopped is a fairly important one when riding a bicycle. Oh, you make it sound so easy. You clearly have minimal experience of cycling, let alone how such circumstances develop.Stop pontificating and go away. A car cannot move sideways, therefore there was a large element of moving forward involved, if the cyclist had braked, rather than carry out a stupid sequence of ineffectual actions, then there would have been no 'near miss'. His injury would not have occured if he had been able to put his foot down in a timely manner. I agree that my personality and lifestyle are not dictated by my choice of transport and that therefore I am not a psycholist and I am rather glad of it. Saying 'go away' does not actually work in the real world, you need to face up to things and deal with them. |
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Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?
On Nov 16, 8:31*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
"the driver cut in as he overtook me. "I shouted out a warning and knocked on the roof of the car, but the driver continued to cut in and struck the bike, causing me to fall to the *pavement." If you have time enough to shout and bang on the car, then why on Earth are you not keeping your hands on the handlebars and braking? He sounds like a Simon, an accident waiting to happen http://www.getwokingham.co.uk/news/s...ury_at_poor_dr... You obviously have little experience of cycling. When a cyclist is deliberately cut-up by a motorist it is without warning and with little if any time to respond. Obviously the cyclist above naturally assumed that banging on the roof of the car would have produced a suitable response, such as slowing down. Instead the motorist just continued to cut him up even more and regardless thus then requiring the emergency braking. Do you understand? -- . UK Radical Campaigns. http://www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. |
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Why don't cyclists learn to use their brakes?
On 17/11/2011 08:12, Mrcheerful wrote:
dr6092 wrote: On Nov 16, 9:46 am, wrote: The alledged etc. The injury to the cyclist was caused by his own stupidity in not braking to avoid something and compounding the problem by having fixed his feet to the pedals, which precluded putting his foot down easily. The ability to hold yourself upright when stopped is a fairly important one when riding a bicycle. Oh, you make it sound so easy. You clearly have minimal experience of cycling, let alone how such circumstances develop.Stop pontificating and go away. A car cannot move sideways, therefore there was a large element of moving forward involved, if the cyclist had braked, rather than carry out a stupid sequence of ineffectual actions, then there would have been no 'near miss'. His injury would not have occured if he had been able to put his foot down in a timely manner. I agree that my personality and lifestyle are not dictated by my choice of transport and that therefore I am not a psycholist and I am rather glad of it. Saying 'go away' does not actually work in the real world, you need to face up to things and deal with them. At relative speeds, cars *do* move sideways. And the faster the speed, the quicker both cyclists and cars move sideways in relation to each other and other traffic. That’s why (or at least one of the reasons why), the faster the speed, the more lateral distance is needed for safety. That’s why, stationary traffic can be passed within inches. -- Simon For personal replies, please use my reply-to address. |
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