Latest DfT Casuallty Stats

Pedestrian casualties down : 3%
Car user casualties down 4%
Motor cycle casualties up 7%


But the overall winner is pedal cycle casualties UP at 10%


KSI figures:

Car user KSI down by 4%
Pedestrians KSI up by 8%
Motor-cycle KSI up by 8%


But once again - the overall winner is Pedal Cycle KSIs: UP by a massive 13%

Does this mean cycling is becoming much more dangerous?

But once again - the overall winner is Pedal Cycle KSIs: *UP by a massive 13%

Does this mean cycling is becoming much more dangerous?

No it's a new younger generation fresh from Labour's hothouses, armed
with made up left wing degrees and heads full of greenwash.

They believe driving cars is the new smoking and that cycling round
London, with a death wish, will save the planet.

When enough of them have killed themselves perhaps we would be better
off advising the next lot to take up smoking

On 18/08/2012 15:14, allantracy wrote:
But once again - the overall winner is Pedal Cycle KSIs: UP by a massive 13%

Does this mean cycling is becoming much more dangerous?

No it's a new younger generation fresh from Labour's hothouses, armed
with made up left wing degrees and heads full of greenwash.

They believe driving cars is the new smoking and that cycling round
London, with a death wish, will save the planet.

When enough of them have killed themselves perhaps we would be better
off advising the next lot to take up smoking


LOL

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 18/08/2012 14:06, Judith wrote:


Pedestrian casualties down : 3%
Car user casualties down 4%
Motor cycle casualties up 7%


But the overall winner is pedal cycle casualties UP at 10%


KSI figures:

Car user KSI down by 4%
Pedestrians KSI up by 8%
Motor-cycle KSI up by 8%


But once again - the overall winner is Pedal Cycle KSIs: UP by a massive 13%

Does this mean cycling is becoming much more dangerous?

From the latest DfT report, published 16 August 2012, which I assume
you are referring to:

'The quarterly figures are based on estimates. It should be noted that
no single quarter's figures should be taken in isolation, especially if
they appear to show a change in trend, as there are seasonal
fluctuations particularly in the smaller categories of road user.'

Colin Bignell

On Aug 18, 3:14*pm, allantracy wrote:
But once again - the overall winner is Pedal Cycle KSIs: *UP by a massive 13%

Does this mean cycling is becoming much more dangerous?

No it's a new younger generation fresh from Labour's hothouses, armed
with made up left wing degrees and heads full of greenwash.

They believe driving cars is the new smoking and that cycling round
London, with a death wish, will save the planet.

When enough of them have killed themselves perhaps we would be better
off advising the next lot to take up smoking

Yes, that'll be a good idea.

"Lung cancer has an enormous impact on national mortality and
currently accounts for 6% of all deaths in the UK. There are over
twice as many deaths from lung cancer as the next ranked cancer, bowel
cancer, which accounts for around 16,000 deaths per year.
In 2010, there were 34,859 deaths from lung cancer in the UK."

On Aug 18, 4:55*pm, Nightjar
wrote:
On 18/08/2012 14:06, Judith wrote:











Pedestrian casualties down : 3%
Car user casualties down 4%
Motor cycle casualties up 7%

But the overall winner is pedal cycle casualties UP at *10%

KSI figures:

Car user KSI down by 4%
Pedestrians KSI up by 8%
Motor-cycle KSI up by 8%

But once again - the overall winner is Pedal Cycle KSIs: *UP by a massive 13%

Does this mean cycling is becoming much more dangerous?

*From the latest DfT report, published 16 August 2012, which I assume
you are referring to:

'The quarterly figures are based on estimates. It should be noted that
no single quarter's figures should be taken in isolation, especially if
they appear to show a change in trend, as there are seasonal
fluctuations particularly in the smaller categories of road user.'

Colin Bignell

It is strange how motorists exult over these figures. The KSIs are up
for cyclists, pedestrians and motorcyclists, but down for motorists.
Are motorists getting more dangerous? It certainly appears so. You
might think that they might keep a little quiet.
Motorists probably think that the hospitals can keep on saving their
victims, and so they don't need to be careful. They may have forgotten
that we now have a Tory government "looking after" the NHS.
Another problem may be the result of all the (anti-Darwinian)
protection that motorists have to save them from the consequences of
their own idiocy. They don't need to be careful because they won't
suffer personally.

"Lung cancer has an enormous impact on national mortality and
currently accounts for 6% of all deaths in the UK. There are over
twice as many deaths from lung cancer as the next ranked cancer, bowel
cancer, which accounts for around 16,000 deaths per year.
In 2010, there were 34,859 deaths from lung cancer in the UK."

So do traffic fumes, only worse, and nowhere are they worse than stuck
behind rush hour traffic on your bike.

Anyone that cycles through London, in the rush hour every day, and
doesn't realise the health risk is a retard, those traffic fumes must
be worth twenty a day.

Of course, if you're going to end up under a bus the fumes hardly
matter.

On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 07:14:32 -0700 (PDT), allantracy
wrote:

But once again - the overall winner is Pedal Cycle KSIs: *UP by a massive 13%

Does this mean cycling is becoming much more dangerous?

No it's a new younger generation fresh from Labour's hothouses, armed
with made up left wing degrees and heads full of greenwash.

They believe driving cars is the new smoking and that cycling round
London, with a death wish, will save the planet.

When enough of them have killed themselves perhaps we would be better
off advising the next lot to take up smoking



I hope they don't smoke the same **** that you're obviously on.

On 18/08/2012 17:35, Squashme wrote:
On Aug 18, 4:55 pm, Nightjar
wrote:
On 18/08/2012 14:06, Judith wrote:











Pedestrian casualties down : 3%
Car user casualties down 4%
Motor cycle casualties up 7%

But the overall winner is pedal cycle casualties UP at 10%

KSI figures:

Car user KSI down by 4%
Pedestrians KSI up by 8%
Motor-cycle KSI up by 8%

But once again - the overall winner is Pedal Cycle KSIs: UP by a massive 13%

Does this mean cycling is becoming much more dangerous?

From the latest DfT report, published 16 August 2012, which I assume
you are referring to:

'The quarterly figures are based on estimates. It should be noted that
no single quarter's figures should be taken in isolation, especially if
they appear to show a change in trend, as there are seasonal
fluctuations particularly in the smaller categories of road user.'

Colin Bignell

It is strange how motorists exult over these figures. The KSIs are up
for cyclists, pedestrians and motorcyclists, but down for motorists.
....

One of the points made in the report is the fact that there are flaws in
the figures. The primary one being that they are based upon accidents
reported to the Police. While it is thought that few, if any, fatal
accidents are not reported to the Police, comparison with hospital
figures suggest that accidents involving serious injury are most likely
under reported while those involving minor injuries are significantly
under reported. The figures for 2011 are based upon 203,950 casualties
reported to the police but estimates put the actual number of casualties
from road accidents in that period at somewhere between 660,000 and 800,000.

Therefore, a change in killed, such as the 4% drop between 2010 and 2011
in cyclists killed, or the 18% drop in 2011, as compared to the average
for the period 2005-2009, is almost certainly accurate. However, rises
in categories other than killed may simply be the result of better
reporting of accidents. So, drawing any conclusions based upon a single
quarter's, or even a single year's figures, except, perhaps for those
for fatalities (and even those may be affected by weather), is an
exercise in futility. The proper use for these figures is to look at
long term trends.

Colin Bignell

On 18/08/2012 14:06, Judith wrote:


Pedestrian casualties down : 3%
Car user casualties down 4%
Motor cycle casualties up 7%


But the overall winner is pedal cycle casualties UP at 10%


KSI figures:

Car user KSI down by 4%
Pedestrians KSI up by 8%
Motor-cycle KSI up by 8%


But once again - the overall winner is Pedal Cycle KSIs: UP by a massive 13%

Does this mean cycling is becoming much more dangerous?


Means car driving standards are getting worse.