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Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.
Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards
the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways stations and along pavements. I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the pier. Doug. |
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Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.
Doug wrote:
Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways stations and along pavements. I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the pier. Doug. You were not denied access, your bicycle was, this may well be partly because of the IRA Brighton bombing attempt in 1994 which used bicycle borne bombs. Bicycles are also a major safety problem as a trip hazard in the event of an emergency evacuation due to fire or other disaster, and piers have often caught fire. Rather like the same way you would not be allowed to take a bicycle into a cinema I applaud the staff that turned you away in order to safeguard others. |
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Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.
On 16 Aug, 09:26, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote: Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to say manual and *motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways stations and along pavements. I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the pier. Doug. You were not denied access, your bicycle was, this may well be partly because of the IRA Brighton bombing attempt in 1994 which used bicycle borne bombs. Bicycles are also a major safety problem as a trip hazard in the event of an emergency evacuation due to fire or other disaster, and piers have often caught fire. *Rather like the same way you would not be allowed to take a bicycle into a cinema I applaud the staff that turned you away in order to safeguard others. In exactly the same way wheelchairs can prevent a problem but they are allowed on the pier. Hence the discrimination against disabled cyclists. Doug... |
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Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.
Doug wrote:
On 16 Aug, 09:26, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Doug wrote: Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways stations and along pavements. I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the pier. Doug. You were not denied access, your bicycle was, this may well be partly because of the IRA Brighton bombing attempt in 1994 which used bicycle borne bombs. Bicycles are also a major safety problem as a trip hazard in the event of an emergency evacuation due to fire or other disaster, and piers have often caught fire. Rather like the same way you would not be allowed to take a bicycle into a cinema I applaud the staff that turned you away in order to safeguard others. In exactly the same way wheelchairs can prevent a problem but they are allowed on the pier. Hence the discrimination against disabled cyclists. What problem - other than the obvious lack of mobility of their users - do wheelchairs prevent? |
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Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.
JNugent wrote:
Doug wrote: On 16 Aug, 09:26, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Doug wrote: Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways stations and along pavements. I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the pier. Doug. You were not denied access, your bicycle was, this may well be partly because of the IRA Brighton bombing attempt in 1994 which used bicycle borne bombs. Bicycles are also a major safety problem as a trip hazard in the event of an emergency evacuation due to fire or other disaster, and piers have often caught fire. Rather like the same way you would not be allowed to take a bicycle into a cinema I applaud the staff that turned you away in order to safeguard others. In exactly the same way wheelchairs can prevent a problem but they are allowed on the pier. Hence the discrimination against disabled cyclists. What problem - other than the obvious lack of mobility of their users - do wheelchairs prevent? I think he intended to write 'present' rather than prevent. Disabled cyclists (which must be quite a small number of people nationwide) could always bring sticks to use in areas where bicycles are not a good idea or banned. Brighton pier is privately owned, so really they can ban any item they like, especially if it represents a massive safety hazard (like a bicycle) |
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Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.
Mrcheerful wrote:
JNugent wrote: Doug wrote: On 16 Aug, 09:26, "Mrcheerful" wrote: [ ... ] I applaud the staff that turned you away in order to safeguard others. In exactly the same way wheelchairs can prevent a problem but they are allowed on the pier. Hence the discrimination against disabled cyclists. What problem - other than the obvious lack of mobility of their users - do wheelchairs prevent? I think he intended to write 'present' rather than prevent. OK... Disabled cyclists (which must be quite a small number of people nationwide) could always bring sticks to use in areas where bicycles are not a good idea or banned. Brighton pier is privately owned, so really they can ban any item they like, especially if it represents a massive safety hazard (like a bicycle) Quite. Mind you - they *could* provide a bike parking place at the entrance and rent out wheelchairs to "disabled cyclists" desperate to use the pier. |
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Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.
Phil W Lee wrote:
"Mrcheerful" considered Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:58:25 +0100 the perfect time to write: JNugent wrote: Doug wrote: On 16 Aug, 09:26, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Doug wrote: Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways stations and along pavements. I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the pier. Doug. You were not denied access, your bicycle was, this may well be partly because of the IRA Brighton bombing attempt in 1994 which used bicycle borne bombs. Bicycles are also a major safety problem as a trip hazard in the event of an emergency evacuation due to fire or other disaster, and piers have often caught fire. Rather like the same way you would not be allowed to take a bicycle into a cinema I applaud the staff that turned you away in order to safeguard others. In exactly the same way wheelchairs can prevent a problem but they are allowed on the pier. Hence the discrimination against disabled cyclists. What problem - other than the obvious lack of mobility of their users - do wheelchairs prevent? I think he intended to write 'present' rather than prevent. Disabled cyclists (which must be quite a small number of people nationwide) could always bring sticks to use in areas where bicycles are not a good idea or banned. Brighton pier is privately owned, so really they can ban any item they like, especially if it represents a massive safety hazard (like a bicycle) Even private premises are subject to the requirements of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970 which include facilitating access for invalid carriages. When used by a disabled person, a bicycle meets all the legal requirements for being a class one invalid carriage, so it would seem the operators were in breach of the Act in denying access. If the presence of an invalid carriage (of any sort) poses a risk, it is only because the operators have been negligent in their duties under The Act. a standard bicycle is not an invalid carriage. quote : Invalid carriage: A mechanically propelled vehicle (mpv) designed & constructed -not merely adapted! - for the use of a person suffering from some sort of physical defect or disability & used SOLELY by such a person. |
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Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.
Phil W Lee wrote:
"Mrcheerful" considered Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:58:25 +0100 the perfect time to write: JNugent wrote: Doug wrote: On 16 Aug, 09:26, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Doug wrote: Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to say manual and motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways stations and along pavements. I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the pier. Doug. You were not denied access, your bicycle was, this may well be partly because of the IRA Brighton bombing attempt in 1994 which used bicycle borne bombs. Bicycles are also a major safety problem as a trip hazard in the event of an emergency evacuation due to fire or other disaster, and piers have often caught fire. Rather like the same way you would not be allowed to take a bicycle into a cinema I applaud the staff that turned you away in order to safeguard others. In exactly the same way wheelchairs can prevent a problem but they are allowed on the pier. Hence the discrimination against disabled cyclists. What problem - other than the obvious lack of mobility of their users - do wheelchairs prevent? I think he intended to write 'present' rather than prevent. Disabled cyclists (which must be quite a small number of people nationwide) could always bring sticks to use in areas where bicycles are not a good idea or banned. Brighton pier is privately owned, so really they can ban any item they like, especially if it represents a massive safety hazard (like a bicycle) Even private premises are subject to the requirements of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970 which include facilitating access for invalid carriages. When used by a disabled person, a bicycle meets all the legal requirements for being a class one invalid carriage, so it would seem the operators were in breach of the Act in denying access. Very bullish. Why don't you write to the Brighton Argus and complain? |
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Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.
On Aug 18, 7:30*pm, Phil W Lee wrote:
"Mrcheerful" considered Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:58:25 +0100 the perfect time to write: JNugent wrote: Doug wrote: On 16 Aug, 09:26, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Doug wrote: Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to say manual and *motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways stations and along pavements. I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the pier. Doug. You were not denied access, your bicycle was, this may well be partly because of the IRA Brighton bombing attempt in 1994 which used bicycle borne bombs. Bicycles are also a major safety problem as a trip hazard in the event of an emergency evacuation due to fire or other disaster, and piers have often caught fire. *Rather like the same way you would not be allowed to take a bicycle into a cinema I applaud the staff that turned you away in order to safeguard others. In exactly the same way wheelchairs can prevent a problem but they are allowed on the pier. Hence the discrimination against disabled cyclists. What problem - other than the obvious lack of mobility of their users - do wheelchairs prevent? I think he intended to write 'present' rather than prevent. Disabled cyclists (which must be quite a small number of people nationwide) could always bring sticks to use in areas where bicycles are not a good idea or banned. Brighton pier is privately owned, so really they can ban any item they like, especially if it represents a massive safety hazard (like a bicycle) Even private premises are subject to the requirements of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970 which include facilitating access for invalid carriages. *When used by a disabled person, a bicycle meets all the legal requirements for being a class one invalid carriage, so it would seem the operators were in breach of the Act in denying access. If the presence of an invalid carriage (of any sort) poses a risk, it is only because the operators have been negligent in their duties under The Act. My house is private premises, are you sugusting that it is subject to the Disabled Persons Act? Or is it just more hot air from a poster who has yet to post anything correct? |
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Disabled cyclist denied access to Brighton Pier.
On Aug 16, 7:29*am, Doug wrote:
Imagine my surprise when walking my diminutive folding bike towards the entrance to the pier I was denied access. Most people are unaware that disabled cyclists are widely discriminated against, compared to say manual and *motorised wheelchair users, but at least disabled cyclists are allowed to wheel their bikes in such places as railways stations and along pavements. I suffer from a condition that makes walking difficult and painful but much less so with cycling. Also, walking the bike has similar benefits to using a walking frame. Still, I did have the consolation of not parting with my money to the traders on the pier. Doug. Bicycles are obviously considered a danger & an inconvience on the peir, so they are banned. If cycles were allowed on the pier cyclist would be riding them not pushing them. If cyclists behaved in a better manner then perhaps such bans would not be in place. They have brought it on themselves, you only have to see the amount of pavement cycling that happens in Brighton to know the reason. |
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