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On Monday, November 24, 2014 1:42:59 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote:
"Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01:14 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "John D. Slocomb" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:06:45 -0000, "Ian Field" wrote: "Phil W Lee" wrote in message . .. "Ian Field" considered Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:05:04 -0000 the perfect time to write: Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles. My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the frame and whatever I'm chaining it to. Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from a pair of old damaged wheels? Thanks. Why not just drop the front wheel out when you lock it up, and thread it on the locking up chain where it will fit, next to the back wheel? I've seen plenty of bikes locked up that way, without any apparent problems. Too lazy - also involves unhooking the front brake cable so the blocks clear the tyre. I get grease on my hands often enough fixing things that go wrong. Get another locking cable/chain and lock the frame and wheels together and then the whole package to the lamp post. Cable locks are cheap. Or a length of chain and another padlock. Or spray paint the bike with various colors. I had a mate that did that figuring that no one would steal anything that looked "that bad", and nobody did but whether that validates his theory I'm not sure :-) The bike was scrounged on Freecycle a few years ago, I have spent money on it - but generally as little as I can get away with. From time to time I get comments while locking it outside the supermarket; "the chains worth more than the bike isn't it?". As yet, I have other spare wheels - so I can put off using the QR ones untill there's no other choice. A regular wheelnut is a loose fit on the QR axle - a QR cone wont fit the regular axle. Since a regular cone will go on the QR axle, I can spin one down the thread and see whether it fits with the bearing. If the fit 8is "loose" you're very likely to have trouble keeping the cones adjusted properly. Do try to pay attention!!!!! The fact that a regular cone can be run down the thread of a QR axle, allows me to check its fit to the bearing. The whole point of the exercise is to fit a regular axle that's right for the cones I'm checking out. You have a habit of getting pretty nasty to some who are trying to help you.. If a cone or nut "spins" down a thread then it's likely a loose fit. If the fit's loose adjustments don't stay. You can have a nut thread onto something where there's a bit of movement of the nut on the threads. That's called a Class B fit and it's something that you'd want to avoid. Good luck. I'm not trying to help any further. Cheers |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:42:58 -0000, "Ian Field"
wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01:14 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "John D. Slocomb" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:06:45 -0000, "Ian Field" wrote: "Phil W Lee" wrote in message . .. "Ian Field" considered Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:05:04 -0000 the perfect time to write: Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles. My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the frame and whatever I'm chaining it to. Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from a pair of old damaged wheels? Thanks. Why not just drop the front wheel out when you lock it up, and thread it on the locking up chain where it will fit, next to the back wheel? I've seen plenty of bikes locked up that way, without any apparent problems. Too lazy - also involves unhooking the front brake cable so the blocks clear the tyre. I get grease on my hands often enough fixing things that go wrong. Get another locking cable/chain and lock the frame and wheels together and then the whole package to the lamp post. Cable locks are cheap. Or a length of chain and another padlock. Or spray paint the bike with various colors. I had a mate that did that figuring that no one would steal anything that looked "that bad", and nobody did but whether that validates his theory I'm not sure :-) The bike was scrounged on Freecycle a few years ago, I have spent money on it - but generally as little as I can get away with. From time to time I get comments while locking it outside the supermarket; "the chains worth more than the bike isn't it?". As yet, I have other spare wheels - so I can put off using the QR ones untill there's no other choice. A regular wheelnut is a loose fit on the QR axle - a QR cone wont fit the regular axle. Since a regular cone will go on the QR axle, I can spin one down the thread and see whether it fits with the bearing. If the fit 8is "loose" you're very likely to have trouble keeping the cones adjusted properly. Do try to pay attention!!!!! The fact that a regular cone can be run down the thread of a QR axle, allows me to check its fit to the bearing. The whole point of the exercise is to fit a regular axle that's right for the cones I'm checking out. In reality, a cone fitting the bearings is a matter of ball size and size of the race. If, for example, both wheels have 1/8" balls and ten balls per side, than the cones are interchangeable as far as the bearings are concerned. -- cheers, John D.Slocomb |
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"Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Monday, November 24, 2014 1:42:59 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01:14 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "John D. Slocomb" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:06:45 -0000, "Ian Field" wrote: "Phil W Lee" wrote in message . .. "Ian Field" considered Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:05:04 -0000 the perfect time to write: Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles. My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the frame and whatever I'm chaining it to. Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from a pair of old damaged wheels? Thanks. Why not just drop the front wheel out when you lock it up, and thread it on the locking up chain where it will fit, next to the back wheel? I've seen plenty of bikes locked up that way, without any apparent problems. Too lazy - also involves unhooking the front brake cable so the blocks clear the tyre. I get grease on my hands often enough fixing things that go wrong. Get another locking cable/chain and lock the frame and wheels together and then the whole package to the lamp post. Cable locks are cheap. Or a length of chain and another padlock. Or spray paint the bike with various colors. I had a mate that did that figuring that no one would steal anything that looked "that bad", and nobody did but whether that validates his theory I'm not sure :-) The bike was scrounged on Freecycle a few years ago, I have spent money on it - but generally as little as I can get away with. From time to time I get comments while locking it outside the supermarket; "the chains worth more than the bike isn't it?". As yet, I have other spare wheels - so I can put off using the QR ones untill there's no other choice. A regular wheelnut is a loose fit on the QR axle - a QR cone wont fit the regular axle. Since a regular cone will go on the QR axle, I can spin one down the thread and see whether it fits with the bearing. If the fit 8is "loose" you're very likely to have trouble keeping the cones adjusted properly. Do try to pay attention!!!!! The fact that a regular cone can be run down the thread of a QR axle, allows me to check its fit to the bearing. The whole point of the exercise is to fit a regular axle that's right for the cones I'm checking out. You have a habit of getting pretty nasty to some who are trying to help you. If a cone or nut "spins" down a thread then it's likely a loose fit. If the fit's loose adjustments don't stay. You can have a nut thread onto something where there's a bit of movement of the nut on the threads. That's called a Class B fit and it's something that you'd want to avoid. I'm a lot more polite to people who give helpful information that isn't just plain wrong. As I've explained twice now; the fact that the regular axle cone can spin down the QR axle, allows me to test that cone for fit to the bearing. The whole object of the exercise is to fit the axle that correctly fits *THAT* cone. If you can't be bothered reading and understanding what I said - please also not be bothered replying. |
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"John D. Slocomb" wrote in message news On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:42:58 -0000, "Ian Field" wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01:14 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "John D. Slocomb" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:06:45 -0000, "Ian Field" wrote: "Phil W Lee" wrote in message . .. "Ian Field" considered Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:05:04 -0000 the perfect time to write: Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles. My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the frame and whatever I'm chaining it to. Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from a pair of old damaged wheels? Thanks. Why not just drop the front wheel out when you lock it up, and thread it on the locking up chain where it will fit, next to the back wheel? I've seen plenty of bikes locked up that way, without any apparent problems. Too lazy - also involves unhooking the front brake cable so the blocks clear the tyre. I get grease on my hands often enough fixing things that go wrong. Get another locking cable/chain and lock the frame and wheels together and then the whole package to the lamp post. Cable locks are cheap. Or a length of chain and another padlock. Or spray paint the bike with various colors. I had a mate that did that figuring that no one would steal anything that looked "that bad", and nobody did but whether that validates his theory I'm not sure :-) The bike was scrounged on Freecycle a few years ago, I have spent money on it - but generally as little as I can get away with. From time to time I get comments while locking it outside the supermarket; "the chains worth more than the bike isn't it?". As yet, I have other spare wheels - so I can put off using the QR ones untill there's no other choice. A regular wheelnut is a loose fit on the QR axle - a QR cone wont fit the regular axle. Since a regular cone will go on the QR axle, I can spin one down the thread and see whether it fits with the bearing. If the fit 8is "loose" you're very likely to have trouble keeping the cones adjusted properly. Do try to pay attention!!!!! The fact that a regular cone can be run down the thread of a QR axle, allows me to check its fit to the bearing. The whole point of the exercise is to fit a regular axle that's right for the cones I'm checking out. In reality, a cone fitting the bearings is a matter of ball size and size of the race. If, for example, both wheels have 1/8" balls and ten balls per side, than the cones are interchangeable as far as the bearings are concerned. The QR hub has the right number of same size ball bearings, the loose fit allowed me to spin the regular cone down the QR axle - the cone seems to fit the hub OK. At one point, I got the 2 cones mixed up - the only way I could tell them apart; is the QR cone won't go on the regular axle. Its all put back together with a regular spindle, the only "to do" is find a locknut which I lost while pinching the axle from a scrap wheel. No doubt doing the same trick on the back wheel will be a whole new adventure! |
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On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:48:24 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote:
"Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Monday, November 24, 2014 1:42:59 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01:14 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "John D. Slocomb" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:06:45 -0000, "Ian Field" wrote: "Phil W Lee" wrote in message . .. "Ian Field" considered Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:05:04 -0000 the perfect time to write: Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.. My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the frame and whatever I'm chaining it to. Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from a pair of old damaged wheels? Thanks. Why not just drop the front wheel out when you lock it up, and thread it on the locking up chain where it will fit, next to the back wheel? I've seen plenty of bikes locked up that way, without any apparent problems. Too lazy - also involves unhooking the front brake cable so the blocks clear the tyre. I get grease on my hands often enough fixing things that go wrong.. Get another locking cable/chain and lock the frame and wheels together and then the whole package to the lamp post. Cable locks are cheap. Or a length of chain and another padlock. Or spray paint the bike with various colors. I had a mate that did that figuring that no one would steal anything that looked "that bad", and nobody did but whether that validates his theory I'm not sure :-) The bike was scrounged on Freecycle a few years ago, I have spent money on it - but generally as little as I can get away with. From time to time I get comments while locking it outside the supermarket; "the chains worth more than the bike isn't it?". As yet, I have other spare wheels - so I can put off using the QR ones untill there's no other choice. A regular wheelnut is a loose fit on the QR axle - a QR cone wont fit the regular axle. Since a regular cone will go on the QR axle, I can spin one down the thread and see whether it fits with the bearing. If the fit 8is "loose" you're very likely to have trouble keeping the cones adjusted properly. Do try to pay attention!!!!! The fact that a regular cone can be run down the thread of a QR axle, allows me to check its fit to the bearing. The whole point of the exercise is to fit a regular axle that's right for the cones I'm checking out. You have a habit of getting pretty nasty to some who are trying to help you. If a cone or nut "spins" down a thread then it's likely a loose fit. If the fit's loose adjustments don't stay. You can have a nut thread onto something where there's a bit of movement of the nut on the threads. That's called a Class B fit and it's something that you'd want to avoid.. I'm a lot more polite to people who give helpful information that isn't just plain wrong. As I've explained twice now; the fact that the regular axle cone can spin down the QR axle, allows me to test that cone for fit to the bearing. The whole object of the exercise is to fit the axle that correctly fits *THAT* cone. If you can't be bothered reading and understanding what I said - please also not be bothered replying. Let's try one last time. If the part "SPINS" on and has any play then it's a Class B fit and you'll have trouble keeping things adjusted properly. You said "SPIN" and I've seen a lot of instances where a nut was spu onto a threaded part but where there was slight play in the nut because it wasn't a Class A fit. All I was trying to do was warn you about that potential problem so that after a number of kms/miles of riding you wouldn't have bearine wear or adjustment issues. Ditto for the cone surface. Even Andrew Muzi mentioned that some cones are not compatible. Cheers |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:52:02 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote: On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:48:24 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Monday, November 24, 2014 1:42:59 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01:14 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "John D. Slocomb" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:06:45 -0000, "Ian Field" wrote: "Phil W Lee" wrote in message . .. "Ian Field" considered Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:05:04 -0000 the perfect time to write: Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles. My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the frame and whatever I'm chaining it to. Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from a pair of old damaged wheels? Thanks. Why not just drop the front wheel out when you lock it up, and thread it on the locking up chain where it will fit, next to the back wheel? I've seen plenty of bikes locked up that way, without any apparent problems. Too lazy - also involves unhooking the front brake cable so the blocks clear the tyre. I get grease on my hands often enough fixing things that go wrong. Get another locking cable/chain and lock the frame and wheels together and then the whole package to the lamp post. Cable locks are cheap. Or a length of chain and another padlock. Or spray paint the bike with various colors. I had a mate that did that figuring that no one would steal anything that looked "that bad", and nobody did but whether that validates his theory I'm not sure :-) The bike was scrounged on Freecycle a few years ago, I have spent money on it - but generally as little as I can get away with. From time to time I get comments while locking it outside the supermarket; "the chains worth more than the bike isn't it?". As yet, I have other spare wheels - so I can put off using the QR ones untill there's no other choice. A regular wheelnut is a loose fit on the QR axle - a QR cone wont fit the regular axle. Since a regular cone will go on the QR axle, I can spin one down the thread and see whether it fits with the bearing. If the fit 8is "loose" you're very likely to have trouble keeping the cones adjusted properly. Do try to pay attention!!!!! The fact that a regular cone can be run down the thread of a QR axle, allows me to check its fit to the bearing. The whole point of the exercise is to fit a regular axle that's right for the cones I'm checking out. You have a habit of getting pretty nasty to some who are trying to help you. If a cone or nut "spins" down a thread then it's likely a loose fit. If the fit's loose adjustments don't stay. You can have a nut thread onto something where there's a bit of movement of the nut on the threads. That's called a Class B fit and it's something that you'd want to avoid. I'm a lot more polite to people who give helpful information that isn't just plain wrong. As I've explained twice now; the fact that the regular axle cone can spin down the QR axle, allows me to test that cone for fit to the bearing. The whole object of the exercise is to fit the axle that correctly fits *THAT* cone. If you can't be bothered reading and understanding what I said - please also not be bothered replying. Let's try one last time. If the part "SPINS" on and has any play then it's a Class B fit and you'll have trouble keeping things adjusted properly. You said "SPIN" and I've seen a lot of instances where a nut was spu onto a threaded part but where there was slight play in the nut because it wasn't a Class A fit. All I was trying to do was warn you about that potential problem so that after a number of kms/miles of riding you wouldn't have bearine wear or adjustment issues. Ditto for the cone surface. Even Andrew Muzi mentioned that some cones are not compatible. Cheers Are you sure about that fit? For the U.S. "Unified" series I was almost sure that the fits are 1A, 2A and 3A for external threads and 1B, 2B and 3B for internal threads. These are all for non-interference threads. -- cheers, John B.Slocomb |
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from here the ball cone geometry you suggest isnlt possible geometries between OEM cone shape and race shape are exact using a different cone shape immediately forces the ball run, which is grossly larger in real terms than the cone/race shape ID, out of functional orbits. ??? |
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"Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:48:24 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Monday, November 24, 2014 1:42:59 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01:14 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "John D. Slocomb" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:06:45 -0000, "Ian Field" wrote: "Phil W Lee" wrote in message . .. "Ian Field" considered Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:05:04 -0000 the perfect time to write: Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles. My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the frame and whatever I'm chaining it to. Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from a pair of old damaged wheels? Thanks. Why not just drop the front wheel out when you lock it up, and thread it on the locking up chain where it will fit, next to the back wheel? I've seen plenty of bikes locked up that way, without any apparent problems. Too lazy - also involves unhooking the front brake cable so the blocks clear the tyre. I get grease on my hands often enough fixing things that go wrong. Get another locking cable/chain and lock the frame and wheels together and then the whole package to the lamp post. Cable locks are cheap. Or a length of chain and another padlock. Or spray paint the bike with various colors. I had a mate that did that figuring that no one would steal anything that looked "that bad", and nobody did but whether that validates his theory I'm not sure :-) The bike was scrounged on Freecycle a few years ago, I have spent money on it - but generally as little as I can get away with. From time to time I get comments while locking it outside the supermarket; "the chains worth more than the bike isn't it?". As yet, I have other spare wheels - so I can put off using the QR ones untill there's no other choice. A regular wheelnut is a loose fit on the QR axle - a QR cone wont fit the regular axle. Since a regular cone will go on the QR axle, I can spin one down the thread and see whether it fits with the bearing. If the fit 8is "loose" you're very likely to have trouble keeping the cones adjusted properly. Do try to pay attention!!!!! The fact that a regular cone can be run down the thread of a QR axle, allows me to check its fit to the bearing. The whole point of the exercise is to fit a regular axle that's right for the cones I'm checking out. You have a habit of getting pretty nasty to some who are trying to help you. If a cone or nut "spins" down a thread then it's likely a loose fit. If the fit's loose adjustments don't stay. You can have a nut thread onto something where there's a bit of movement of the nut on the threads. That's called a Class B fit and it's something that you'd want to avoid. I'm a lot more polite to people who give helpful information that isn't just plain wrong. As I've explained twice now; the fact that the regular axle cone can spin down the QR axle, allows me to test that cone for fit to the bearing. The whole object of the exercise is to fit the axle that correctly fits *THAT* cone. If you can't be bothered reading and understanding what I said - please also not be bothered replying. Let's try one last time. If the part "SPINS" on and has any play then it's a Class B fit and you'll have trouble keeping things adjusted properly. Lets try explaining this slowly, like I'm talking to a totally brain dead ****wit; The QR axle that I want to get rid of is a loose fit inside the regular axle cone. Its not a working fit, but allows me to run the cone down the thread to see how it matches with the bearing. The bearing has the right number of the right size balls, and the temporary fit of the cone showed it fit the bearing just right. So I took out and discarded the loose fit QR axle and fitted the regular axle that the cones belongs on. I suppose I should give you credit for memorising a few impressive technical terms - but you really do come across as pretty clueless!!! |
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On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:29:19 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote:
"Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:48:24 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Monday, November 24, 2014 1:42:59 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01:14 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "John D. Slocomb" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:06:45 -0000, "Ian Field" wrote: "Phil W Lee" wrote in message . .. "Ian Field" considered Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:05:04 -0000 the perfect time to write: Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles. My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the frame and whatever I'm chaining it to. Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from a pair of old damaged wheels? Thanks. Why not just drop the front wheel out when you lock it up, and thread it on the locking up chain where it will fit, next to the back wheel? I've seen plenty of bikes locked up that way, without any apparent problems. Too lazy - also involves unhooking the front brake cable so the blocks clear the tyre. I get grease on my hands often enough fixing things that go wrong. Get another locking cable/chain and lock the frame and wheels together and then the whole package to the lamp post. Cable locks are cheap. Or a length of chain and another padlock. Or spray paint the bike with various colors. I had a mate that did that figuring that no one would steal anything that looked "that bad", and nobody did but whether that validates his theory I'm not sure :-) The bike was scrounged on Freecycle a few years ago, I have spent money on it - but generally as little as I can get away with. From time to time I get comments while locking it outside the supermarket; "the chains worth more than the bike isn't it?". As yet, I have other spare wheels - so I can put off using the QR ones untill there's no other choice. A regular wheelnut is a loose fit on the QR axle - a QR cone wont fit the regular axle. Since a regular cone will go on the QR axle, I can spin one down the thread and see whether it fits with the bearing. If the fit 8is "loose" you're very likely to have trouble keeping the cones adjusted properly. Do try to pay attention!!!!! The fact that a regular cone can be run down the thread of a QR axle, allows me to check its fit to the bearing. The whole point of the exercise is to fit a regular axle that's right for the cones I'm checking out. You have a habit of getting pretty nasty to some who are trying to help you. If a cone or nut "spins" down a thread then it's likely a loose fit. If the fit's loose adjustments don't stay. You can have a nut thread onto something where there's a bit of movement of the nut on the threads. That's called a Class B fit and it's something that you'd want to avoid. I'm a lot more polite to people who give helpful information that isn't just plain wrong. As I've explained twice now; the fact that the regular axle cone can spin down the QR axle, allows me to test that cone for fit to the bearing. The whole object of the exercise is to fit the axle that correctly fits *THAT* cone. If you can't be bothered reading and understanding what I said - please also not be bothered replying. Let's try one last time. If the part "SPINS" on and has any play then it's a Class B fit and you'll have trouble keeping things adjusted properly. Lets try explaining this slowly, like I'm talking to a totally brain dead ****wit; The QR axle that I want to get rid of is a loose fit inside the regular axle cone. Its not a working fit, but allows me to run the cone down the thread to see how it matches with the bearing. The bearing has the right number of the right size balls, and the temporary fit of the cone showed it fit the bearing just right. So I took out and discarded the loose fit QR axle and fitted the regular axle that the cones belongs on. I suppose I should give you credit for memorising a few impressive technical terms - but you really do come across as pretty clueless!!! You're absolutely right Ian. You come here asking for help then insult those who try to point out possible problems you could have. Doesn't matter to you if the person has over 40 years experience fixing bicycles. I'll NEVER be offering further help to you. Cheers |
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QD wheel spindles.
"Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:29:19 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:48:24 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Monday, November 24, 2014 1:42:59 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message ... On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:01:14 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote: "John D. Slocomb" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:06:45 -0000, "Ian Field" wrote: "Phil W Lee" wrote in message . .. "Ian Field" considered Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:05:04 -0000 the perfect time to write: Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles. My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the frame and whatever I'm chaining it to. Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from a pair of old damaged wheels? Thanks. Why not just drop the front wheel out when you lock it up, and thread it on the locking up chain where it will fit, next to the back wheel? I've seen plenty of bikes locked up that way, without any apparent problems. Too lazy - also involves unhooking the front brake cable so the blocks clear the tyre. I get grease on my hands often enough fixing things that go wrong. Get another locking cable/chain and lock the frame and wheels together and then the whole package to the lamp post. Cable locks are cheap. Or a length of chain and another padlock. Or spray paint the bike with various colors. I had a mate that did that figuring that no one would steal anything that looked "that bad", and nobody did but whether that validates his theory I'm not sure :-) The bike was scrounged on Freecycle a few years ago, I have spent money on it - but generally as little as I can get away with. From time to time I get comments while locking it outside the supermarket; "the chains worth more than the bike isn't it?". As yet, I have other spare wheels - so I can put off using the QR ones untill there's no other choice. A regular wheelnut is a loose fit on the QR axle - a QR cone wont fit the regular axle. Since a regular cone will go on the QR axle, I can spin one down the thread and see whether it fits with the bearing. If the fit 8is "loose" you're very likely to have trouble keeping the cones adjusted properly. Do try to pay attention!!!!! The fact that a regular cone can be run down the thread of a QR axle, allows me to check its fit to the bearing. The whole point of the exercise is to fit a regular axle that's right for the cones I'm checking out. You have a habit of getting pretty nasty to some who are trying to help you. If a cone or nut "spins" down a thread then it's likely a loose fit. If the fit's loose adjustments don't stay. You can have a nut thread onto something where there's a bit of movement of the nut on the threads. That's called a Class B fit and it's something that you'd want to avoid. I'm a lot more polite to people who give helpful information that isn't just plain wrong. As I've explained twice now; the fact that the regular axle cone can spin down the QR axle, allows me to test that cone for fit to the bearing. The whole object of the exercise is to fit the axle that correctly fits *THAT* cone. If you can't be bothered reading and understanding what I said - please also not be bothered replying. Let's try one last time. If the part "SPINS" on and has any play then it's a Class B fit and you'll have trouble keeping things adjusted properly. Lets try explaining this slowly, like I'm talking to a totally brain dead ****wit; The QR axle that I want to get rid of is a loose fit inside the regular axle cone. Its not a working fit, but allows me to run the cone down the thread to see how it matches with the bearing. The bearing has the right number of the right size balls, and the temporary fit of the cone showed it fit the bearing just right. So I took out and discarded the loose fit QR axle and fitted the regular axle that the cones belongs on. I suppose I should give you credit for memorising a few impressive technical terms - but you really do come across as pretty clueless!!! You're absolutely right Ian. You come here asking for help then insult those who try to point out possible problems you could have. Doesn't matter to you if the person has over 40 years experience fixing bicycles. Being lectured by someone who cant be arsed reading what I said, who comes back with completely irrelevant and frequently just plain wrong answers does tend to put my back up a bit! |
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