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A few miles into my evening ride on my cable-shift Emonda -- with my wife pushing me on her ebike, I shifted to go up the next hill and snap -- immediate downshift into 34/11. Great. In the middle of a 9% grade, that turned at the top to another climb, but a short one. I tacked a bit, got home and then jumped on the Di2 disc Synapse and started over. Heavier with fenders, etc., but still a nice bike. The discs, BTW, don't drag at all. Thank Buddha for that reliable Di2.
The good thing about the latest Ultegra levers is that there is a trap door under the lever body, and you can remove one screw, take out the door and grab the broken cable and end. No more fishing it out of the lever. This is the second time in 20 years on STI that I've broken a cable. Before that I broke a friction bar-end cable in the middle of a tour. I had a spare. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 7/4/21 2:09 pm, jbeattie wrote:
A few miles into my evening ride on my cable-shift Emonda -- with my wife pushing me on her ebike, I shifted to go up the next hill and snap -- immediate downshift into 34/11. Great. In the middle of a 9% grade, that turned at the top to another climb, but a short one. I tacked a bit, got home and then jumped on the Di2 disc Synapse and started over. Heavier with fenders, etc., but still a nice bike. The discs, BTW, don't drag at all. Thank Buddha for that reliable Di2. The good thing about the latest Ultegra levers is that there is a trap door under the lever body, and you can remove one screw, take out the door and grab the broken cable and end. No more fishing it out of the lever. This is the second time in 20 years on STI that I've broken a cable. Before that I broke a friction bar-end cable in the middle of a tour. I had a spare. I guess when you've been riding the Di2 setup for the same time & distance you'll be able to make a more reasonable comparison. I'm still waiting to break a cable after more than 30 years of using cable actuated gears and brakes. -- JS |
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On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 9:18:58 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
On 7/4/21 2:09 pm, jbeattie wrote: A few miles into my evening ride on my cable-shift Emonda -- with my wife pushing me on her ebike, I shifted to go up the next hill and snap -- immediate downshift into 34/11. Great. In the middle of a 9% grade, that turned at the top to another climb, but a short one. I tacked a bit, got home and then jumped on the Di2 disc Synapse and started over. Heavier with fenders, etc., but still a nice bike. The discs, BTW, don't drag at all. Thank Buddha for that reliable Di2. The good thing about the latest Ultegra levers is that there is a trap door under the lever body, and you can remove one screw, take out the door and grab the broken cable and end. No more fishing it out of the lever. This is the second time in 20 years on STI that I've broken a cable. Before that I broke a friction bar-end cable in the middle of a tour. I had a spare. I guess when you've been riding the Di2 setup for the same time & distance you'll be able to make a more reasonable comparison. I'm still waiting to break a cable after more than 30 years of using cable actuated gears and brakes. I have had the same experience as you. Plus with all of those damn gears you have to spend all of your time shifting and wearing every part out. I almost returned to my 9 speed Campy but couldn't find the shifters after all these years. I cabled my Eddy Merckx last night and installed the chain and respaced the front derailleur to fit the Compact crank. Got a date with the tax man at 9 and then will return and wrap the handlebar tape. I weighed it before the cables, pedals and chain and it was about 17.6 lbs. My Colnago is 19 lbs. so I shouldn't be overweight. |
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On 4/6/2021 9:18 PM, James wrote:
snip I'm still waiting to break a cable after more than 30 years of using cable actuated gears and brakes. In college I was riding down a hill in the winter and both of my brake cables snapped. But that was more than 30 years ago. |
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On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 7:56:35 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 4/6/2021 9:18 PM, James wrote: snip I'm still waiting to break a cable after more than 30 years of using cable actuated gears and brakes. In college I was riding down a hill in the winter and both of my brake cables snapped. But that was more than 30 years ago. One can easily imagine what you were riding and it had nothing to do with stainless steel cables. |
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On 4/7/2021 12:18 AM, James wrote:
On 7/4/21 2:09 pm, jbeattie wrote: A few miles into my evening ride on my cable-shift Emonda -- with my wife pushing me on her ebike, I shifted to go up the next hill and snap -- immediate downshift into 34/11.Â* Great.Â* In the middle of a 9% grade, that turned at the top to another climb, but a short one. I tacked a bit, got home and then jumped on the Di2 disc Synapse and started over.Â* Heavier with fenders, etc., but still a nice bike. The discs, BTW, don't drag at all. Thank Buddha for that reliable Di2. The good thing about the latest Ultegra levers is that there is a trap door under the lever body, and you can remove one screw, take out the door and grab the broken cable and end.Â* No more fishing it out of the lever. I hadn't heard about that. It sounds like a nice improvement. This is the second time in 20 years on STI that I've broken a cable. Before that I broke a friction bar-end cable in the middle of a tour.Â* I had a spare. I'm still waiting to break a cable after more than 30 years of using cable actuated gears and brakes. Do you replace them regularly? Could that be why? My maintenance regime tends toward "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." That's probably what's caused me to break shift cables. And my Cannondale touring bike requires an unusually long cable because I run the cable from the bar end control under the handlebar tape. I've learned to carry a spare. But I've also learned to notice the first strands of the shift cable breaking at the bar end control. They stick out and poke my finger, a nice early warning system. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 8/4/21 1:19 am, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/7/2021 12:18 AM, James wrote: On 7/4/21 2:09 pm, jbeattie wrote: A few miles into my evening ride on my cable-shift Emonda -- with my wife pushing me on her ebike, I shifted to go up the next hill and snap -- immediate downshift into 34/11.Â* Great.Â* In the middle of a 9% grade, that turned at the top to another climb, but a short one. I tacked a bit, got home and then jumped on the Di2 disc Synapse and started over.Â* Heavier with fenders, etc., but still a nice bike. The discs, BTW, don't drag at all. Thank Buddha for that reliable Di2. The good thing about the latest Ultegra levers is that there is a trap door under the lever body, and you can remove one screw, take out the door and grab the broken cable and end.Â* No more fishing it out of the lever. I hadn't heard about that. It sounds like a nice improvement. This is the second time in 20 years on STI that I've broken a cable. Before that I broke a friction bar-end cable in the middle of a tour.Â* I had a spare. I'm still waiting to break a cable after more than 30 years of using cable actuated gears and brakes. Do you replace them regularly? Could that be why? What is regularly? I usually wait until the outer plastic is cracked and rust is showing, then wait until the next time I replace handlebar tape and replace cables and tape at the same time. Probably every 2-3 years or more? The tape gets replaced more often because I usually end up wearing a hole in it somewhere. But I've also learned to notice the first strands of the shift cable breaking at the bar end control. They stick out and poke my finger, a nice early warning system. Once I had gear change problems and it turned out to be a couple of broken strands in the Campagnolo Ergo lever body. I didn't need to unscrew a secret trapdoor to extract the cable. I think Campagnolo levers are much easier to work on. You can disassemble, clean and reassemble them fairly easily. -- JS |
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On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 7:10:23 PM UTC-7, James wrote:
On 8/4/21 1:19 am, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 4/7/2021 12:18 AM, James wrote: On 7/4/21 2:09 pm, jbeattie wrote: A few miles into my evening ride on my cable-shift Emonda -- with my wife pushing me on her ebike, I shifted to go up the next hill and snap -- immediate downshift into 34/11. Great. In the middle of a 9% grade, that turned at the top to another climb, but a short one. I tacked a bit, got home and then jumped on the Di2 disc Synapse and started over. Heavier with fenders, etc., but still a nice bike. The discs, BTW, don't drag at all. Thank Buddha for that reliable Di2. The good thing about the latest Ultegra levers is that there is a trap door under the lever body, and you can remove one screw, take out the door and grab the broken cable and end. No more fishing it out of the lever. I hadn't heard about that. It sounds like a nice improvement. This is the second time in 20 years on STI that I've broken a cable. Before that I broke a friction bar-end cable in the middle of a tour. I had a spare. I'm still waiting to break a cable after more than 30 years of using cable actuated gears and brakes. Do you replace them regularly? Could that be why? What is regularly? I usually wait until the outer plastic is cracked and rust is showing, then wait until the next time I replace handlebar tape and replace cables and tape at the same time. Probably every 2-3 years or more? The tape gets replaced more often because I usually end up wearing a hole in it somewhere. But I've also learned to notice the first strands of the shift cable breaking at the bar end control. They stick out and poke my finger, a nice early warning system. Once I had gear change problems and it turned out to be a couple of broken strands in the Campagnolo Ergo lever body. I didn't need to unscrew a secret trapdoor to extract the cable. I think Campagnolo levers are much easier to work on. You can disassemble, clean and reassemble them fairly easily. I'm told the most recent Campy levers are not rebuildable -- or they are rebuildable, but the parts are not available. One or the other. My son had a left STI lever go dead on a ride, and it was not fixable -- or I couldn't fix it. That's the only STI lever I've had go belly up in almost 30 years.. Every other issue I've resolved with a WD40 flush and lubrication. The new trap door feature gives you good access to the innards for cleaning and lubricating. It's not the same as being rebuildable, but it is an improvement. -- Jay Beattie. |
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James wrote:
On 7/4/21 2:09 pm, jbeattie wrote: A few miles into my evening ride on my cable-shift Emonda -- with my wife pushing me on her ebike, I shifted to go up the next hill and snap -- immediate downshift into 34/11. Great. In the middle of a 9% grade, that turned at the top to another climb, but a short one. I tacked a bit, got home and then jumped on the Di2 disc Synapse and started over. Heavier with fenders, etc., but still a nice bike. The discs, BTW, don't drag at all. Thank Buddha for that reliable Di2. The good thing about the latest Ultegra levers is that there is a trap door under the lever body, and you can remove one screw, take out the door and grab the broken cable and end. No more fishing it out of the lever. This is the second time in 20 years on STI that I've broken a cable. Before that I broke a friction bar-end cable in the middle of a tour. I had a spare. I guess when you've been riding the Di2 setup for the same time & distance you'll be able to make a more reasonable comparison. I'm still waiting to break a cable after more than 30 years of using cable actuated gears and brakes. I tend to have to replace as the cable gets sticky, and after a while can’t be cleaned/lubed into life. Don’t think I’ve ever snapped a cable. Mind you until this year had never snapped a hanger... Roger Merriman |
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On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 5:32:07 AM UTC-7, Roger Merriman wrote:
James wrote: On 7/4/21 2:09 pm, jbeattie wrote: A few miles into my evening ride on my cable-shift Emonda -- with my wife pushing me on her ebike, I shifted to go up the next hill and snap -- immediate downshift into 34/11. Great. In the middle of a 9% grade, that turned at the top to another climb, but a short one. I tacked a bit, got home and then jumped on the Di2 disc Synapse and started over. Heavier with fenders, etc., but still a nice bike. The discs, BTW, don't drag at all. Thank Buddha for that reliable Di2. The good thing about the latest Ultegra levers is that there is a trap door under the lever body, and you can remove one screw, take out the door and grab the broken cable and end. No more fishing it out of the lever. This is the second time in 20 years on STI that I've broken a cable. Before that I broke a friction bar-end cable in the middle of a tour. I had a spare. I guess when you've been riding the Di2 setup for the same time & distance you'll be able to make a more reasonable comparison. I'm still waiting to break a cable after more than 30 years of using cable actuated gears and brakes. I tend to have to replace as the cable gets sticky, and after a while can’t be cleaned/lubed into life. Don’t think I’ve ever snapped a cable. Mind you until this year had never snapped a hanger... Now that they are making replaceable hangers the aluminum material is of the wrong alloy and is very brittle. I don't think that this is to allow break away in case of a crash or to make people buy more of them but simply that alloy is just cheaper than hell. It appears to be almost pure aluminum. |
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