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Old March 21st 09, 05:57 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Can anyone name another event in the Olympics - besides road cycling -
where in a team competition the medal is only given to the team members
who place in the top 3, but where the other teammates get NOTHING, but
claim they have a motive to help their teammates win a medal?

For example, in all the track relays, everyone on the relay team gets a
medal if the team finishes in the top 3, not just the guy who runs the
final length and "wins" or the guy who runs the fastest split.

In team gymnastics, everyone wins medal if the team finishes in the
medals. In soccer, the person who kicks the winning goal is not the
only person who gets a gold medal....even the player who never scored or
sat on the bench gets the same medal.

Why is cycling so ****ed up in that only the rider who gets in the top 3
is awarded a medal? And why do teammates sacrifice themselves for
their teammates when doing so has no gain to them either financially or
through a medal.

Thanks,

Magilla

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Old March 21st 09, 06:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Susan Walker
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MagillaGorilla wrote:
Can anyone name another event in the Olympics - besides road cycling -
where in a team competition the medal is only given to the team members
who place in the top 3, but where the other teammates get NOTHING, but
claim they have a motive to help their teammates win a medal?


Distance running.
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Old March 21st 09, 07:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Mar 21, 1:57*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Can anyone name another event in the Olympics - besides road cycling -
where in a team competition the medal is only given to the team members
who place in the top 3, but where the other teammates get NOTHING, but
claim they have a motive to help their teammates win a medal?

For example, in all the track relays, everyone on the relay team gets a
medal if the team finishes in the top 3, not just the guy who runs the
final length and "wins" or the guy who runs the fastest split.

In team gymnastics, everyone wins medal if the team finishes in the
medals. *In soccer, the person who kicks the winning goal is not the
only person who gets a gold medal....even the player who never scored or
sat on the bench gets the same medal.

Why is cycling so ****ed up in that only the rider who gets in the top 3
is awarded a medal? * And why do teammates sacrifice themselves for
their teammates when doing so has no gain to them either financially or
through a medal.

Thanks,

Magilla


the olympics are completely ****ed up: it is a place where developers
get to let loose their grandious schemes on a deluded public, sweeping
up corrupt politicians and officals with kickbacks, inciting media
hype to drive as many revenue streams as possible. In the end, the
public has to foot the bill for a little used ghastly eyesore.
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Old March 21st 09, 07:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
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Can anyone name another event in the Olympics - besides road cycling -
where in a team competition the medal is only given to the team members
who place in the top 3, but where the other teammates get NOTHING, but
claim they have a motive to help their teammates win a medal?


Yeah, this echoes what we discussed last year, but maybe Kristin A. reads
RBR cause not too long after that thread, Kristin did an interview
somewhere, wish I can find the link, but for first time, I can't remember
any women talking about this. She said basically in many more words that
each member of the team should each receive a gold medal, not just the
winner. That would be the road race of course, TT is truly a test of the
individual human spirit. It was a good article, wish I could find it, still
online somewhere out there. Apparently someone is listening. You know they
used to have the TTT in the Olympics for the women.



For example, in all the track relays, everyone on the relay team gets a
medal if the team finishes in the top 3, not just the guy who runs the
final length and "wins" or the guy who runs the fastest split.

In team gymnastics, everyone wins medal if the team finishes in the
medals. In soccer, the person who kicks the winning goal is not the
only person who gets a gold medal....even the player who never scored or
sat on the bench gets the same medal.

Why is cycling so ****ed up in that only the rider who gets in the top 3
is awarded a medal? And why do teammates sacrifice themselves for
their teammates when doing so has no gain to them either financially or
through a medal.

Thanks,

Magilla


Cycling has this unique problem, and I haven't heard a good solution yet,
except to award all the team mates medals equally. Even during the regular
season, there is a huge amount of road kill, and few winners. Consider
again, for instance Anke Wichmann who spent two decades racing, and as a
domo made some money finally getting on Colombia, but not a super domo. You
could literally spend 20 years racing without anything to show for your
efforts while someone else steals your lunch, takes the glory, prizes, and
part of your place in history as their own. In cycling, you need to read
very carefully between the lines, and the writers need to get it right in
the history books.

GBMT


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Old March 21st 09, 09:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Susan Walker wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Can anyone name another event in the Olympics - besides road cycling -
where in a team competition the medal is only given to the team members
who place in the top 3, but where the other teammates get NOTHING, but
claim they have a motive to help their teammates win a medal?


Distance running.


There is no team strategy in distance running like there is in cycling. So
I reject your answer. In distance running, you merely have a bunch of guys
or women wearing the same clothing. They do NOT run as a team and they are
not given a team strategy to help one person win over another as is the case
in cycling.


Thanks,

Magilla

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Old March 21st 09, 09:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:

"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
...
Can anyone name another event in the Olympics - besides road cycling -
where in a team competition the medal is only given to the team members
who place in the top 3, but where the other teammates get NOTHING, but
claim they have a motive to help their teammates win a medal?


Yeah, this echoes what we discussed last year, but maybe Kristin A. reads
RBR cause not too long after that thread, Kristin did an interview
somewhere, wish I can find the link, but for first time, I can't remember
any women talking about this. She said basically in many more words that
each member of the team should each receive a gold medal, not just the
winner. That would be the road race of course, TT is truly a test of the
individual human spirit. It was a good article, wish I could find it, still
online somewhere out there. Apparently someone is listening. You know they
used to have the TTT in the Olympics for the women.

GBMT


She only said that because she thinks it is in her best interest to talk
nonsense like that. If she really believed it, she would share her
endorsement money with her U.S. "teammates" for that chocolate milk ad she
did.

But then again, since she lies about drinking chocolate milk as a recovery
drink, I guess she is capable of lying about anything:

http://www.cycleto.com/index.php?vie...ntent&Itemid=4



Thanks,


Magilla



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Old March 21st 09, 10:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Susan Walker
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MagillaGorilla wrote:
Susan Walker wrote:
MagillaGorilla wrote:
Can anyone name another event in the Olympics - besides road cycling -
where in a team competition the medal is only given to the team members
who place in the top 3, but where the other teammates get NOTHING, but
claim they have a motive to help their teammates win a medal?

Distance running.


There is no team strategy in distance running like there is in cycling.


Sure, it's very weak compared to cycling.

So
I reject your answer. In distance running, you merely have a bunch of guys
or women wearing the same clothing. They do NOT run as a team and they are
not given a team strategy to help one person win over another as is the case
in cycling.


Interview with Paul Tergat from 2005:
http://www.aipsmedia.com/index.php?p...s&cod=956&tp=n
Oh wait, "Athletes these days run individually."
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Old March 21st 09, 10:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Susan Walker
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Default Cycling and the Olympics: A Marketing Fraud

Susan Walker wrote:
Interview with Paul Tergat from 2005:


Sorry, 06 or even 07.
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Old March 21st 09, 10:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Mar 21, 2:49*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Susan Walker wrote:
MagillaGorilla wrote:
Can anyone name another event in the Olympics - besides road cycling -
where in a team competition the medal is only given to the team members
who place in the top 3, but where the other teammates get NOTHING, but
claim they have a motive to help their teammates win a medal?


Distance running.


There is no team strategy in distance running like there is in cycling. *So
I reject your answer. *


Of course there's similar team strategy, everyone who knows anything
about distance running knows that. You know you're wrong, too, but
you're just ****ed it only took one post to point that out.
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Old March 22nd 09, 01:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla[_2_]
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Default Cycling and the Olympics: A Marketing Fraud

Susan Walker wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Susan Walker wrote:
MagillaGorilla wrote:
Can anyone name another event in the Olympics - besides road cycling -
where in a team competition the medal is only given to the team members
who place in the top 3, but where the other teammates get NOTHING, but
claim they have a motive to help their teammates win a medal?
Distance running.


There is no team strategy in distance running like there is in cycling.


Sure, it's very weak compared to cycling.

So
I reject your answer. In distance running, you merely have a bunch of guys
or women wearing the same clothing. They do NOT run as a team and they are
not given a team strategy to help one person win over another as is the case
in cycling.


Interview with Paul Tergat from 2005:
http://www.aipsmedia.com/index.php?p...s&cod=956&tp=n
Oh wait, "Athletes these days run individually."


Stop being an idiot.

Thanks,


Magilla

 




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