how long does a broken collarbone take ?

Susan Walker wrote:
Just heard on Dutch TV, from his "close" friend sports commentator Mart
Smeets, that Armstrong rode the upcoming Tour TT *five* times in the
week before MSR and that he tried to keep it quiet.

raamman wrote:
shows you can't trust your "friends"

Ask Rasmussen.

MagillaGorilla wrote:
If Lance ever wears a ****ing pacifier in his mouth on the podium or when
crossing the finish line - or a "binky" as faggots call it - I will never
post in here again.

Kunich will be sending a livestrong pacifier to Armstrong when he reads
this.

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
Apparently there is an "aggressive surgery" option that can cut downtime
pretty substantially.

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cyclin...ory?id=4010909

It's believable. When I broke the bone at the base of my thumb, I was told
8 weeks in a cast. I explained that doesn't work for me, and I'd read that
there were surgical options that could substantially reduce that. So they
bring in the hand surgeon specialist, put a titanium screw in and voila,
2.5 weeks later and I'm fully functional again.

I was riding the trainer the week after mine (collar bone) after I had a
plate put in. The only downside is you've got to be careful to not get any
sweat into the operation site so its probably a good idea to miss a week
after the plate is put in and another after its taken out. In my case I
didn't have much choice when it came to surgery as there was a loose
(lose US spelling ?) bone fragment.

On Mar 23, 1:48*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
wrote:
re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?

Most people who suffer a 3rd degree clavicle fracture end up dying due to
MRSA infection once the bacteria migrates into the marrow.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just trying to be melodramatic about the impending
comeback so Nike can turn it it into a billion dollar Cinderella story of
improbable odds.




Dumbass -


Bitch about it all you want, but you would if you could.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

On Mar 24, 4:25*am, Donald Munro wrote:
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
Apparently there is an "aggressive surgery" option that can cut downtime
pretty substantially.

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cyclin...ory?id=4010909

It's believable. When I broke the bone at the base of my thumb, I was told
8 weeks in a cast. I explained that doesn't work for me, and I'd read that
there were surgical options that could substantially reduce that. So they
bring in the hand surgeon specialist, put a titanium screw in and voila,
2.5 weeks later and I'm fully functional again.

I was riding the trainer the week after mine (collar bone) after I had a
plate put in. The only downside is you've got to be careful to not get any
sweat into the operation site so its probably a good idea to miss a week
after the plate is put in and another after its taken out. In my case I
didn't have much choice when it came to surgery as there was a loose
(lose US spelling ?) bone fragment.

the trainer would go so far as to help him from gaining weight during
the time off (something that he had yet to lose leading up to the
tdf ); but remember it does not simulate race conditions, one thing LA
and co. were keen to point out during his comeback and perhaps good
reason for his full race calendar leading up to the tdf. He needs time
on the bike- his position has been changed and he needs as much time
merging biomechanical performance with it's limitations. He has about
2 months left to be competitive for the tdf, and half that time will
be spent at reduced intensity. He will have a hard time staying with
the pack the first races when he does come back. The worst thing will
be psychologically he will always find himself stuggling to keep up-
and so he has to consider his legacy, how does he want it to be
written ?

raamman wrote:
the trainer would go so far as to help him from gaining weight during the
time off (something that he had yet to lose leading up to the tdf ); but
remember it does not simulate race conditions, one thing LA and co. were
keen to point out during his comeback and perhaps good reason for his full
race calendar leading up to the tdf. He needs time on the bike- his
position has been changed and he needs as much time merging biomechanical
performance with it's limitations. He has about 2 months left to be
competitive for the tdf, and half that time will be spent at reduced
intensity. He will have a hard time staying with the pack the first races
when he does come back. The worst thing will be psychologically he will
always find himself stuggling to keep up- and so he has to consider his
legacy, how does he want it to be written ?

If you have the mental capacity to push yourself you can train as hard
if not harder on a trainer, particularly if you do intervals with a
power meter.

"K. Gringioni" wrote:

On Mar 23, 1:48*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
wrote:
re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?

Most people who suffer a 3rd degree clavicle fracture end up dying due to
MRSA infection once the bacteria migrates into the marrow.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just trying to be melodramatic about the impending
comeback so Nike can turn it it into a billion dollar Cinderella story of
improbable odds.

Dumbass -

Bitch about it all you want, but you would if you could.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

I don't think so.



Magilla

wrote:

On Mar 23, 8:03*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
wrote:
re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?

Your question is wrong. * Here's why. * Lance wanted to win the Giro.
With this broken collarbone, he probably cannot win the Giro. * So now
he's ****ed off.

And now I gotta sit here and listen to all you Lance lovers talk stupid
as if Lance can win a race like the Giro after coming off a 4-week
vacation. *He cannot. *Or at least he doesn't want to.

Lance doesn't like racing when he's not 100% prepared. *That's why he
skipped the Athens Olympics. *That's why he skips worlds every year.

Thanks,

Magilla

He couldn't win the giro regardless. His aim clearly was the big
mouth. Now he will try to win leadville then do the hour. but
otherwise I believe the dream is over.

Lance could win the Giro at 95%. His Tour ride has not been significantly
affected. You sound like one of those people who every year from 1999 to
2005 kept saying how Lance wasn't going to win the Tour because of this or
that.

Stop acting like an idiot.


Thanks,

Magilla

On Mar 24, 12:04*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 8:03*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
wrote:
re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?

Your question is wrong. * Here's why. * Lance wanted to win the Giro.
With this broken collarbone, he probably cannot win the Giro. * So now
he's ****ed off.

And now I gotta sit here and listen to all you Lance lovers talk stupid
as if Lance can win a race like the Giro after coming off a 4-week
vacation. *He cannot. *Or at least he doesn't want to.

Lance doesn't like racing when he's not 100% prepared. *That's why he
skipped the Athens Olympics. *That's why he skips worlds every year..

Thanks,

Magilla

He couldn't win the giro regardless. His aim clearly was the big
mouth. Now he will try to win leadville then do the hour. but
otherwise I believe the dream is over.

Lance could win the Giro at 95%. * His Tour ride has not been significantly
affected. * You sound like one of those people who every year from 1999 to
2005 kept saying how Lance wasn't going to win the Tour because of this or
that.

Stop acting like an idiot.

Thanks,

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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lance could win the giro at 95%...of what ? the current pro peleton
not starting perhaps ? his riding style in the mountains had a lot of
out-of-the-saddle jumps...how is he going to get out of the saddle
with a busted collarbone ? sorry fella, you may yack big, but you
ain't got the brains to back it up.

On Mar 23, 11:47*am, Carl Sundquist wrote:
Susan Walker wrote:
wrote:
re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?

Six weeks.

Sooner if it's plated.

Impossible. ;-)

Andy Coggan