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Old October 11th 08, 11:08 PM posted to alt.machines.cnc,misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,alt.impeach.bush,rec.bicycles.racing
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On Oct 11, 1:45*pm, Boater wrote:
Cliff wrote:
* "The Candidates as Trains"
*http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...tiontrains.jpg


That's just...hilarious.

Delightfully, I believe Palin's problems in Alaska are just beginning.


Maybe, but if not for the democrats blocking any investigation into
Freddie and Fannie until after the election, you'd see most of
Nobama's financial advisors being forced to resign in shame AND Nobama
himself dropping out of the race due to the humilation of being caught
with his hands in the cookie jar. Wait, no... that won't happen.
He's drunk the koolaid himself, and actually believes he's the
messiah.

What he is, is a thinly-veiled socialist who believes in telling the
same lie over and over until its accepted as true.

Fred
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Old October 11th 08, 11:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:08:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Oct 11, 1:45*pm, Boater wrote:
Cliff wrote:
* "The Candidates as Trains"
*
http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...tiontrains.jpg

That's just...hilarious.

Delightfully, I believe Palin's problems in Alaska are just beginning.


Maybe, but if not for the democrats blocking any investigation into
Freddie and Fannie until after the election, you'd see most of
Nobama's financial advisors being forced to resign in shame AND Nobama
himself dropping out of the race due to the humilation of being caught
with his hands in the cookie jar.


Who are Obama's Fannie/Freddie-connected financial advisors?

What "cookie jar"?

Where do you get this stuff?

BTW, are you aware that the head of the McCain campaign's company was
being piad by FreddieMac $15,000 per MONTH through August of this
year? And that in July (and possibly at other times) Mr. McCain denied
that any of his staff worked for that company (meaning McCain was
either being tricked by the head of his campaign, or lying. If it was
the former, I'd think he would have fired him...)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us...mccain.html?em

John McCain - straight talker you betcha.
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Old October 11th 08, 11:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Oct 11, 4:18*pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:08:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Oct 11, 1:45*pm, Boater wrote:
Cliff wrote:
* "The Candidates as Trains"
*http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...tiontrains.jpg


That's just...hilarious.


Delightfully, I believe Palin's problems in Alaska are just beginning.


Maybe, but if not for the democrats blocking any investigation into
Freddie and Fannie until after the election, you'd see most of
Nobama's financial advisors being forced to resign in shame AND Nobama
himself dropping out of the race due to the humilation of being caught
with his hands in the cookie jar. *


Who are Obama's Fannie/Freddie-connected financial advisors?

What "cookie jar"?

Where do you get this stuff?

BTW, are you aware that the head of the McCain campaign's company was
being piad by FreddieMac $15,000 per MONTH through August of this
year? And that in July (and possibly at other times) Mr. McCain denied
that any of his staff worked for that company (meaning McCain was
either being tricked by the head of his campaign, or lying. *If it was
the former, I'd think he would have fired him...)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us...mccain.html?em

John McCain - straight talker you betcha.


uhhh, Raines, Jim Johnson, etc...


"The top three U.S. senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political
bucks were Democrats and No. 2 is Sen. Barack Obama. Now remember,
he's only been in the Senate four years, but he still managed to grab
the No. 2 spot ahead of John Kerry — decades in the Senate — and Chris
Dodd, who is chairman of the Senate Banking Committee."


You can lay the blame for the current credit mess squarely on the
shoulders of democrats who pressured the lending industry to give
loans to the poor and who refused to create the approriate regulations
to prevent the meltdown we're seeing. I'm sure you don't see it that
way, but you've got blinders on. Besides, its all Bush's fault,
right?
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Old October 12th 08, 12:02 AM posted to alt.machines.cnc,misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,alt.impeach.bush,rec.bicycles.racing
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On Oct 11, 3:08*pm, wrote:
On Oct 11, 1:45*pm, Boater wrote:

Cliff wrote:
* "The Candidates as Trains"
*http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...tiontrains.jpg


That's just...hilarious.


Delightfully, I believe Palin's problems in Alaska are just beginning.


Maybe, but if not for the democrats blocking any investigation into
Freddie and Fannie until after the election, you'd see most of
Nobama's financial advisors being forced to resign in shame AND Nobama
himself dropping out of the race due to the humilation of being caught
with his hands in the cookie jar. *Wait, no... that won't happen.
He's drunk the koolaid himself, and actually believes he's the
messiah.

What he is, is a thinly-veiled socialist who believes in telling the
same lie over and over until its accepted as true.

Fred


Fred, you're way off base. If your party didn't screw the pooch so
badly, you'd never have to worry about non-socialists like obama. Your
party is wrong.
  #5  
Old October 12th 08, 12:07 AM posted to alt.machines.cnc,misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,alt.impeach.bush,rec.bicycles.racing
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On Oct 11, 5:02*pm, tenjets wrote:
On Oct 11, 3:08*pm, wrote:



On Oct 11, 1:45*pm, Boater wrote:


Cliff wrote:
* "The Candidates as Trains"
*http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...tiontrains.jpg


That's just...hilarious.


Delightfully, I believe Palin's problems in Alaska are just beginning..


Maybe, but if not for the democrats blocking any investigation into
Freddie and Fannie until after the election, you'd see most of
Nobama's financial advisors being forced to resign in shame AND Nobama
himself dropping out of the race due to the humilation of being caught
with his hands in the cookie jar. *Wait, no... that won't happen.
He's drunk the koolaid himself, and actually believes he's the
messiah.


What he is, is a thinly-veiled socialist who believes in telling the
same lie over and over until its accepted as true.


Fred


Fred, you're way off base. If your party didn't screw the pooch so
badly, you'd never have to worry about non-socialists like obama. Your
party is wrong.


don't feed the animals....................
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Old October 12th 08, 12:10 AM posted to alt.machines.cnc,misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,alt.impeach.bush,rec.bicycles.racing
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On Oct 11, 4:08*pm, wrote:
On Oct 11, 1:45*pm, Boater wrote:

Cliff wrote:
* "The Candidates as Trains"
*http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...tiontrains.jpg


That's just...hilarious.


Delightfully, I believe Palin's problems in Alaska are just beginning.


Maybe, but if not for the democrats blocking any investigation into
Freddie and Fannie until after the election, you'd see most of
Nobama's financial advisors being forced to resign in shame AND Nobama
himself dropping out of the race due to the humilation of being caught
with his hands in the cookie jar. *Wait, no... that won't happen.
He's drunk the koolaid himself, and actually believes he's the
messiah.

What he is, is a thinly-veiled socialist who believes in telling the
same lie over and over until its accepted as true.

Fred


And McCain was a poor Naval Officer and aviator who said he 'found
religion' after Hanoi but was a self described 'wild man' after he
returned. He set new records for womanizing and drinking..in spite of
his wife, who was hurt in a car crash and could barley walk. John was
living the high life in DC. Just the guy we want running things.
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Old October 12th 08, 01:02 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On 10/11/08 3:18 PM, in article ,
"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote:

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:08:34 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Oct 11, 1:45*pm, Boater wrote:
Cliff wrote:
* "The Candidates as Trains"
*
http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...tiontrains.jpg

That's just...hilarious.

Delightfully, I believe Palin's problems in Alaska are just beginning.


Maybe, but if not for the democrats blocking any investigation into
Freddie and Fannie until after the election, you'd see most of
Nobama's financial advisors being forced to resign in shame AND Nobama
himself dropping out of the race due to the humilation of being caught
with his hands in the cookie jar.


Who are Obama's Fannie/Freddie-connected financial advisors?

What "cookie jar"?

Where do you get this stuff?

BTW, are you aware that the head of the McCain campaign's company was
being piad by FreddieMac $15,000 per MONTH through August of this
year? And that in July (and possibly at other times) Mr. McCain denied
that any of his staff worked for that company (meaning McCain was
either being tricked by the head of his campaign, or lying. If it was
the former, I'd think he would have fired him...)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us...mccain.html?em

John McCain - straight talker you betcha.



Blind JT,

THIS was signed by McCain:

http://humanevents.com/images/letter_050506c.gif
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28973


McCain Letter Demanded 2006 Action on Fannie and Freddie
by Human Events
10/10/2008


Sen. John McCain's 2006 demand for regulatory action on Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac could have prevented current financial crisis, as HUMAN EVENTS
learned from the letter shown in full text below.

McCain's letter -- signed by nineteen other senators -- said that it was
"...vitally important that Congress take the necessary steps to ensure that
[Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac]...operate in a safe and sound
manner.[and]..More importantly, Congress must ensure that the American
taxpayer is protected in the event that either...should fail."

Sen. Obama did not sign the letter, nor did any other Democrat.



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Old October 12th 08, 01:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Bill C
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On Oct 11, 7:10*pm, "P.Chisholm" wrote:
On Oct 11, 4:08*pm, wrote:





On Oct 11, 1:45*pm, Boater wrote:


Cliff wrote:
* "The Candidates as Trains"
*http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...tiontrains.jpg


That's just...hilarious.


Delightfully, I believe Palin's problems in Alaska are just beginning..


Maybe, but if not for the democrats blocking any investigation into
Freddie and Fannie until after the election, you'd see most of
Nobama's financial advisors being forced to resign in shame AND Nobama
himself dropping out of the race due to the humilation of being caught
with his hands in the cookie jar. *Wait, no... that won't happen.
He's drunk the koolaid himself, and actually believes he's the
messiah.


What he is, is a thinly-veiled socialist who believes in telling the
same lie over and over until its accepted as true.


Fred


And McCain was a poor Naval Officer and aviator who said he 'found
religion' after Hanoi but was a self described 'wild man' after he
returned. He set new records for womanizing and drinking..in spite of
his wife, who was hurt in a car crash and could barley walk. John was
living the high life in DC. Just the guy we want running things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Sounds like Ted Kennedy, but McCain never abandoned anyone to die, and
didn't bother reporting it until he sobered up.

http://townhall.com/columnists/Micha...ama_thugocracy

http://tinyurl.com/3hjgf3
Frank's fingerprints are all over the financial fiasco
By Jeff Jacoby
Globe Columnist / September 28, 2008

Bill C
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Old October 12th 08, 01:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:53:55 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Oct 11, 4:18*pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:08:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Oct 11, 1:45*pm, Boater wrote:
Cliff wrote:
* "The Candidates as Trains"
*
http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...tiontrains.jpg

That's just...hilarious.


Delightfully, I believe Palin's problems in Alaska are just beginning.


Maybe, but if not for the democrats blocking any investigation into
Freddie and Fannie until after the election, you'd see most of
Nobama's financial advisors being forced to resign in shame AND Nobama
himself dropping out of the race due to the humilation of being caught
with his hands in the cookie jar. *


Who are Obama's Fannie/Freddie-connected financial advisors?

What "cookie jar"?

Where do you get this stuff?

BTW, are you aware that the head of the McCain campaign's company was
being piad by FreddieMac $15,000 per MONTH through August of this
year? And that in July (and possibly at other times) Mr. McCain denied
that any of his staff worked for that company (meaning McCain was
either being tricked by the head of his campaign, or lying. *If it was
the former, I'd think he would have fired him...)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us...mccain.html?em

John McCain - straight talker you betcha.


uhhh, Raines, Jim Johnson, etc...


Frank Raines had one or two phone calls with Obama staffers and now
he's one of Obama's financial advisors, despite both him and the Obama
campaign saying he's not? Nonsense. Jim Johnson was but resigned from
the Obama campaign before Freddie/Fannie imploded. He may be
culpable, but he to say he would be forced to resign is nonsensical
since he already has you dope.

"The top three U.S. senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political
bucks were Democrats and No. 2 is Sen. Barack Obama. Now remember,
he's only been in the Senate four years, but he still managed to grab
the No. 2 spot ahead of John Kerry — decades in the Senate — and Chris
Dodd, who is chairman of the Senate Banking Committee."


Where is this from? Butting quotes around some blog quote doesn't
make it right.

PS - I believe Obama got more contributions than McCain from Fannie
and Freddie employees, but that's like saying that if factory workers
are contributing to a campaging the candidate is going to favor the
company. Not necessarily. We have to look where decisionmakers in
the company are channeling money. Such as to the McCain campaign
head....

You can lay the blame for the current credit mess squarely on the
shoulders of democrats who pressured the lending industry to give
loans to the poor and who refused to create the approriate regulations
to prevent the meltdown we're seeing. I'm sure you don't see it that
way, but you've got blinders on. Besides, its all Bush's fault,
right?


Mainly if you include Plus Phil Gramm and the Republican leadership of
Congress. Probably Greenspan too, A tiny bit maybe Rubin (he's
actually an Obama advisor).


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Old October 12th 08, 01:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:02:49 -0700, ST wrote:



THIS was signed by McCain:

http://humanevents.com/images/letter_050506c.gif
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28973


McCain Letter Demanded 2006 Action on Fannie and Freddie
by Human Events
10/10/2008


Sen. John McCain's 2006 demand for regulatory action on Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac could have prevented current financial crisis, as HUMAN EVENTS
learned from the letter shown in full text below.

McCain's letter -- signed by nineteen other senators -- said that it was
"...vitally important that Congress take the necessary steps to ensure that
[Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac]...operate in a safe and sound
manner.[and]..More importantly, Congress must ensure that the American
taxpayer is protected in the event that either...should fail."



That letter is about accounting troubles -- surely important but not
about the underlying solvency of the organizations. The focus is on
stopping waste, not avoiding an implosion.
 




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