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Old August 17th 05, 06:44 AM
Bill Sornson
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wrote:
Mark Hickey wrote:


These days it should be pretty obvious that you don't actually have
to be in the office to get anything done


Politics is about face-to-face.

Crawford ain't D.C.

So, take those two, and figure out that yes, indeed, Crawford is a
vacation. Maybe not compared to *your* vacation, but a politician's
vacation.


3 days shorter than Congress', BTW.


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Old August 17th 05, 12:51 PM
Shaun aRe
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"Raptor" wrote in message
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Bill Sornson wrote:
To me, it DOES add some credence to the piece that the author is

actually an
experienced rider, and not just some fairly fit reporter who got an

invite
to tag along or something. When this guy says that W rides at a pretty
strong pace, it likely means just that.

Cool.


And if it's to be believed, 20 mph on a mtb is pretty damn fast. I
wonder how long Shrub was able to *maintain* 20 mph.


Until the cocaine ran out - duh.





Shaun aRe


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Old August 17th 05, 02:11 PM
Mark Hickey
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" wrote:

Mark Hickey wrote:

These days it should be pretty obvious that you don't actually have to
be in the office to get anything done


Politics is about face-to-face.


In a perfect world, yes. But this is a big world, and the vast
majority of people Bush or any other president meets with are NOT in
the same room. Those meetings aren't affected by Bush being in
Crawford.

Crawford ain't D.C.


Neither is Camp David.

So, take those two, and figure out that yes, indeed, Crawford is a
vacation. Maybe not compared to *your* vacation, but a politician's
vacation.

Get real.


Like any of us could handle the "vacation workload" a president
manages... ever notice how presidents (all of 'em) age at 2-3x the
rate the rest of us do? Must be all those "vacations", huh?

Mark Hickey
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Old August 17th 05, 06:34 PM
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cc wrote:
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I would be very happy if he just took the whole rest of his term
off, and keep the hell away from a microphone!


Yeah, or five minutes to talk to a distressed mother of a soldier who
died in the unjust invasion of Iraq, who is camped outside of his
ranch.


You mean the mother he already met with over a year ago, and who praised
him afterwards? The one who USED to have a photo of the President
kisssing her on the cheek on her website? The one who now tells a
completely different account of all that, while posing for pics with
impeachment and chickenhawk signs all around her, and yet claims she just
wants to meet with him? The one who said:


snip

Yes, that's the one, Bill. Thanks for that article; I hadn't seen that.
Regardless, it doesn't change the very important questions that she has to
ask, and the right she has to ask them. I don't much care for the spin put
on her case, but bushie needs to answer to somebody. Here is another bit
that might help a bit:

The president -- who is spending a nearly five-week-long working vacation at
his Texas ranch -- said in a speech Wednesday that the sacrifices of U.S.
troops were "made in a noble cause." (Full story)

Sheehan said she found little comfort in his comments.

"I want to ask the president, why did he kill my son?" Sheehan told
reporters. "He said my son died in a noble cause, and I want to ask him what
that noble cause is."

Sheehan said hers was one of a group of about 15 families who each met
separately with the president one day last June.

"He wouldn't look at the pictures of Casey. He didn't even know Casey's
name," she told CNN Sunday. "Every time we tried to talk about Casey and how
much we missed him, he would change the subject."

Sheehan said she was so distraught at the time that she failed to ask the
questions she now wants answered.

"I want him to honor my son by bringing the troops home immediately,"
Sheehan told reporters Saturday. "I don't want him to use my son's name or
my name to justify any more killing."


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Old August 17th 05, 07:14 PM
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Mark Hickey wrote:
" wrote:

Mark Hickey wrote:

These days it should be pretty obvious that you don't actually have to
be in the office to get anything done


Politics is about face-to-face.


In a perfect world, yes.


:roll eyes:

Yeah, all those treaties signed over the years - "just fax that to me."

E.P.

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Old August 17th 05, 07:24 PM
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gree-c quoted someone else:
"I want him to honor my son by bringing the troops home immediately,"
Sheehan told reporters Saturday.



That quote could only make one wonder if her son would feel honor in
his name being used to desert a mission he sacrificed his life for
before it was completed.

JD

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Old August 17th 05, 07:30 PM
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cc wrote:
"Bill Sornson" wrote in
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cc wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message


I would be very happy if he just took the whole rest of his term
off, and keep the hell away from a microphone!


Yeah, or five minutes to talk to a distressed mother of a soldier
who died in the unjust invasion of Iraq, who is camped outside of
his ranch.


You mean the mother he already met with over a year ago, and who
praised him afterwards? The one who USED to have a photo of the
President kisssing her on the cheek on her website? The one who now
tells a completely different account of all that, while posing for
pics with impeachment and chickenhawk signs all around her, and yet
claims she just wants to meet with him? The one who said:


snip

Yes, that's the one, Bill. Thanks for that article; I hadn't seen
that. Regardless, it doesn't change the very important questions that
she has to ask, and the right she has to ask them. I don't much care
for the spin put on her case, but bushie needs to answer to somebody.
Here is another bit that might help a bit:

The president -- who is spending a nearly five-week-long working
vacation at his Texas ranch -- said in a speech Wednesday that the
sacrifices of U.S. troops were "made in a noble cause." (Full story)

Sheehan said she found little comfort in his comments.

"I want to ask the president, why did he kill my son?" Sheehan told
reporters. "He said my son died in a noble cause, and I want to ask
him what that noble cause is."


Well, um, 'c'... President Bush didn't kill her son (who volunteered to be
there, of course). An insurgent killed her son while he tried to help his
buddies caught in a firefight (story I heard anyway). He was a true hero,
and deserves better.

The noble cause is millions (MILLIONS) of people freed from oppression and
tyranny. Guess that's too corny for you. On a "practical" level,
transforming Iraq (and Afghanistan) will, if successful, lessen and perhaps
even defeat the forces that create and foster terrorism in generations to
come.

Sheehan said hers was one of a group of about 15 families who each met
separately with the president one day last June.

"He wouldn't look at the pictures of Casey. He didn't even know
Casey's name," she told CNN Sunday. "Every time we tried to talk
about Casey and how much we missed him, he would change the subject."


That's not what she said then or right after.

Sheehan said she was so distraught at the time that she failed to ask
the questions she now wants answered.


So then she went home and put up pics with the prez on her website? Hmm.

"I want him to honor my son by bringing the troops home immediately,"
Sheehan told reporters Saturday. "I don't want him to use my son's
name or my name to justify any more killing."


Like the slaughter that would immediately follow an abrupt pull-out? Then
her son's death WOULD have been in vain (although still "for a noble
cause").

No one's giving air time to the parents of lost soldiers who DO support the
president, even though they far outnumber the ones who feel like Ms.
Sheehan. Gotta wonder why that is...


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Old August 17th 05, 08:40 PM
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"JD" wrote in message
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gree-c quoted someone else:
"I want him to honor my son by bringing the troops home immediately,"
Sheehan told reporters Saturday.



That quote could only make one wonder if her son would feel honor in
his name being used to desert a mission he sacrificed his life for
before it was completed.


The sacrifice of life does not make it a just mission. Many have died for
terrible causes. I'm sure some of the families of the SS felt that way too.


 




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