New Tactical Cycling Maneuver

https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/a-seat...s-head-during/

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Andrew Muzi
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On 24/09/2020 15.59, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/a-seat...s-head-during/

Why are the cops riding bikes at night with no lights? Is that not
illegal?

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-7, Tosspot wrote:
On 24/09/2020 15.59, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/a-seat...s-head-during/

Why are the cops riding bikes at night with no lights? Is that not
illegal?
Why are you unaware that police are not subject to traffic regulations? Are you supposing that the police are going to pursue someone while staying within the speed limit?

On 9/24/2020 12:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-7, Tosspot wrote:
On 24/09/2020 15.59, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/a-seat...s-head-during/

Why are the cops riding bikes at night with no lights? Is that not
illegal?
Why are you unaware that police are not subject to traffic regulations? Are you supposing that the police are going to pursue someone while staying within the speed limit?

I can see good reasons police are allowed to exceed the speed limit in a
pursuit situation. That doesn't justify cops violating any law they like
any time they like.

I've witnessed cops in patrol cars violating red lights apparently at
will - no speeding involved, no warning lights, no indication it was any
official business.

I'm pretty sympathetic to cops, but they shouldn't be using their
position to break the law for their own convenience.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 9:25:39 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/24/2020 12:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-7, Tosspot wrote:
On 24/09/2020 15.59, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/a-seat...s-head-during/

Why are the cops riding bikes at night with no lights? Is that not
illegal?
Why are you unaware that police are not subject to traffic regulations? Are you supposing that the police are going to pursue someone while staying within the speed limit?
I can see good reasons police are allowed to exceed the speed limit in a
pursuit situation. That doesn't justify cops violating any law they like
any time they like.

I've witnessed cops in patrol cars violating red lights apparently at
will - no speeding involved, no warning lights, no indication it was any
official business.

I'm pretty sympathetic to cops, but they shouldn't be using their
position to break the law for their own convenience.

This is why when you were young enough not to have bones broken someone should have slapped the holy **** out of you. Exactly how did you know that a cop wasn't responding to something? The pure unadulterated mental problems you have are open for public viewing every time you post. Cops not being subject to traffic laws is NOT cops doing anything they like without rules.

On 9/25/2020 4:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 9:25:39 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/24/2020 12:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-7, Tosspot wrote:
On 24/09/2020 15.59, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/a-seat...s-head-during/

Why are the cops riding bikes at night with no lights? Is that not
illegal?
Why are you unaware that police are not subject to traffic regulations? Are you supposing that the police are going to pursue someone while staying within the speed limit?
I can see good reasons police are allowed to exceed the speed limit in a
pursuit situation. That doesn't justify cops violating any law they like
any time they like.

I've witnessed cops in patrol cars violating red lights apparently at
will - no speeding involved, no warning lights, no indication it was any
official business.

I'm pretty sympathetic to cops, but they shouldn't be using their
position to break the law for their own convenience.

This is why when you were young enough not to have bones broken someone should have slapped the holy **** out of you.

Gosh, Tom, you're trying to sound so manly and fearsome! But I wonder if
anyone here is impressed? I'm certainly not.

Exactly how did you know that a cop wasn't responding to something?

The two incidents I remember most clearly were at the same traffic
light, one that I'll admit tries my patience. It's badly timed,
unnecessarily long and with almost never any cross traffic.

In both cases, the cop came to a stop, then proceeded - one pretty
quickly, the other after maybe ten or fifteen seconds. In both cases,
there was absolutely no hurry. They motored on at a relaxed pace, and of
course their patrol cars were not lit up nor running sirens.

Cops not being subject to traffic laws is NOT cops doing anything they like without rules.

I can see why you failed to graduate high school.

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- Frank Krygowski

On 9/24/2020 11:00 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-7, Tosspot wrote:
On 24/09/2020 15.59, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/a-seat...s-head-during/

Why are the cops riding bikes at night with no lights? Is that not
illegal?
Why are you unaware that police are not subject to traffic regulations? Are you supposing that the police are going to pursue someone while staying within the speed limit?


Technically they can run stop signs/stop lights and blow
speed limits, go wrong-way and so on only when the red
lights are rolling.

(or blue lights or whatever in your area)

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 9:54:58 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/24/2020 11:00 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-7, Tosspot wrote:
On 24/09/2020 15.59, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/a-seat...s-head-during/

Why are the cops riding bikes at night with no lights? Is that not
illegal?
Why are you unaware that police are not subject to traffic regulations? Are you supposing that the police are going to pursue someone while staying within the speed limit?


Technically they can run stop signs/stop lights and blow
speed limits, go wrong-way and so on only when the red
lights are rolling.

(or blue lights or whatever in your area)

In the olde days, you had to have a solid red front facing light and a siren to be going "Code 3." Some cop in a suburb of SJ gave me a ticket for lighting it up, going through an empty intersection with no siren in the middle of the night. What a DF. Why make a bunch of noise for nothing. We were cancelled four blocks down the road, switched off the lights and got pulled over. I think the guy was convinced we were just running lights to beat him to the all-night doughnut shop. When we gave him the call number and convinced him that we had been dispatched and cancelled (this suburb was not on the combined county dispatch system), he still gave us a ticket because he didn't like the way the ambulances were behaving in his town. In SJ, you got a pass unless you ran someone over. For SMS, this was Campbell in the '70s. Barney Fife-ville.

In SJ at 3AM, we treated red traffic lights like stop signs, and so did the cops. It was totally illegal, but ignored.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 9:54:58 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/24/2020 11:00 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-7, Tosspot wrote:
On 24/09/2020 15.59, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/a-seat...s-head-during/

Why are the cops riding bikes at night with no lights? Is that not
illegal?
Why are you unaware that police are not subject to traffic regulations? Are you supposing that the police are going to pursue someone while staying within the speed limit?

Technically they can run stop signs/stop lights and blow
speed limits, go wrong-way and so on only when the red
lights are rolling.

(or blue lights or whatever in your area)

If you actually search using Google to see what the laws actually are you cannot find it. This is because the police are immune to traffic laws. Not just running lights and stop signs but any other traffic law. This is nothing but another leftist tool to try and convince people that the police are subject to the same laws as everyone else and that it is cheating that they are doing to chase criminals.

On 9/24/2020 12:56 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 9:54:58 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/24/2020 11:00 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-7, Tosspot wrote:
On 24/09/2020 15.59, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/a-seat...s-head-during/

Why are the cops riding bikes at night with no lights? Is that not
illegal?
Why are you unaware that police are not subject to traffic regulations? Are you supposing that the police are going to pursue someone while staying within the speed limit?

Technically they can run stop signs/stop lights and blow
speed limits, go wrong-way and so on only when the red
lights are rolling.

(or blue lights or whatever in your area)

If you actually search using Google to see what the laws actually are you cannot find it. This is because the police are immune to traffic laws. Not just running lights and stop signs but any other traffic law. This is nothing but another leftist tool to try and convince people that the police are subject to the same laws as everyone else and that it is cheating that they are doing to chase criminals.


au contraire.

Typical statutes for who may have such equipment:
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...es/347/II/25/1

and what one might legally do while equipment is activated
and under what conditions:

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tutes/346/i/03

I didn't look at California specifically but the general
principles are from the UVC of the 1920s.

I'm sure local exceptions exist, but these laws are
relatively uniform across States and of long standing.
Recent amendments for oscillating hi-low motorcycle
headlamps, red+blue official vehicle flashers or red blinky
bicycle tail lamps are minor technical details, not
wholesale revisions.
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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971