Rock Racing's wandering bike choices

On Sep 13, 8:28*am, Bill C wrote:
On Sep 12, 10:04*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:



atmo, e-Richie may still read this forum. Of course, we all have
gargantuan bikesexual urges towards his idea of lugged steel
imperfection, but he's also stopped adding names to his very long
waiting list.

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Ryan Cousineau /
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Yeah, last I heard 6 years. There're pretty regular chances to pick up
the teams used bikes though.
*Found out about the documentary when Adam mentioned he got his copy
the other day. Have to save the $40 bucks for some good beer, and Mug
Adam for his copy when he comes out to run CSI.
;-)
Bill C

For $1,800-2,200 USD, you can have a custom lugged or fillet brazed
steel frameset made my Hans Schneider with a 2-3 month wait. Hans
made himself a semi-sloping fillet brazed frame with True Temper S3
steel that weighs 3 lbs (traditional specs would be 57 c-t with a 58.5
cm tt); his complete bike with EDCO/GP4 wheels, speedplays and off the
shelf bits weighs 16 lbs. My neuron frameset with Centaur, pedals and
Easton circuits weighs 19. With Gel 330s and edco hubs it's a hair
over 18, steel fork and all.

I like e-Ritchie's artisanship, but it doesn't do the pedaling for you.

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On Sep 13, 2:16 am, Donald Munro wrote:
OMC wrote:
The problem with the DeRosa's that Rock was using, they were pieces of
**** !!
**** poor construction , broken or cracked Bottom bracket shells, chain
stays, etc.
The damn internal routing of cables didn't work, had to jury rig an
external cable routing system.
They were garbage !!!

They should have got Bianchi. At least they have a decent warranty.

why not just pick up some chinese made bikes at the local walmart ?
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Does DeRosa use Chinese/Taiwanese factories?

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On Sep 13, 2:16 am, Donald Munro wrote:
OMC wrote:
The problem with the DeRosa's that Rock was using, they were pieces of
**** !!
**** poor construction , broken or cracked Bottom bracket shells, chain
stays, etc.
The damn internal routing of cables didn't work, had to jury rig an
external cable routing system.
They were garbage !!!

They should have got Bianchi. At least they have a decent warranty.

why not just pick up some chinese made bikes at the local walmart ?
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Does DeRosa use Chinese/Taiwanese factories?

They'd be fools not to.

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"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

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LawBoy01 wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:28*am, Bill C wrote:
On Sep 12, 10:04*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:



atmo, e-Richie may still read this forum. Of course, we all have
gargantuan bikesexual urges towards his idea of lugged steel
imperfection, but he's also stopped adding names to his very long
waiting list.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, last I heard 6 years. There're pretty regular chances to pick up
the teams used bikes though.
*Found out about the documentary when Adam mentioned he got his copy
the other day. Have to save the $40 bucks for some good beer, and Mug
Adam for his copy when he comes out to run CSI.
;-)
Bill C

For $1,800-2,200 USD, you can have a custom lugged or fillet brazed
steel frameset made my Hans Schneider with a 2-3 month wait. Hans
made himself a semi-sloping fillet brazed frame with True Temper S3
steel that weighs 3 lbs (traditional specs would be 57 c-t with a 58.5
cm tt); his complete bike with EDCO/GP4 wheels, speedplays and off the
shelf bits weighs 16 lbs. My neuron frameset with Centaur, pedals and
Easton circuits weighs 19. With Gel 330s and edco hubs it's a hair
over 18, steel fork and all.

I like e-Ritchie's artisanship, but it doesn't do the pedaling for you.

Yes and yes, well... One does ultimately vote with one's wallet. I have
a pair of boring aluminum frames for my CX and road bike, plus a gaggle
of steel frames.

One obviously buys or rides a Sachs for reasons other than
performance-per-dollar, but it's not an indefensible choice.

You can think of Sachs frames as expensive by bike standards, or really
cheap given that they're quite possibly the nicest steel frames ever
made.

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Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

On Sep 14, 1:55*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
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*LawBoy01 wrote:


For $1,800-2,200 USD, you can have a custom lugged or fillet brazed
steel frameset made my Hans Schneider with a 2-3 month wait. *Hans
made himself a semi-sloping fillet brazed frame with True Temper S3
steel that weighs 3 lbs (traditional specs would be 57 c-t with a 58.5
cm tt); his complete bike with EDCO/GP4 wheels, speedplays and off the
shelf bits weighs 16 lbs. *My neuron frameset with Centaur, pedals and
Easton circuits weighs 19. *With Gel 330s and edco hubs it's a hair
over 18, steel fork and all.

I like e-Ritchie's artisanship, but it doesn't do the pedaling for you.

Yes and yes, well... One does ultimately vote with one's wallet. I have
a pair of boring aluminum frames for my CX and road bike, plus a gaggle
of steel frames.

One obviously buys or rides a Sachs for reasons other than
performance-per-dollar, but it's not an indefensible choice.

You can think of Sachs frames as expensive by bike standards, or really
cheap given that they're quite possibly the nicest steel frames ever
made.

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Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text -

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I'd still suck on either one, and have a Redline Conquest to ride
since that fit into the budget, but for me I'd buy a bike or two from
Richie in a heartbeat for lots of not racing related reasons.
He's an incredible craftsman, and that's something I love. He's
someone I know and like who's done a ton of really good things for
cycling and people without blowing his own horn. He's always there
when someone needs a hand, and he's semi-local and works in steel
which, being traditional makes me happy.
Lots of the same apply to IF. I love the way they go about things,
and do business. Great backstory too.:
http://www.ifbikes.com/who2/index.shtml
Bill C