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Old September 6th 07, 05:03 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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Flicking through the tv on the weekend i watched a segment of the show
imaginatively titled 'The Car Show'. They were comparing commuting in
Melbourne by car, train and bike. I missed the beginning but assume
they all left the same point at the same time. The guy on the train
arrived at the destination first, followed by the bike rider ten
minutes later. The car came in much later. When they compared the
costs the bike was averaged out at about $1000 a year including
purchase price and muesli bars. The car was averaged out at $70,000+ a
year not including servicing or speeding tickets. No mention of the
other benefits of cycling ie. fitness, less pollution etc. The
presenter summed up by saying he still loved his car and would choose
it over both other methods even though the guy on the train had a
snooze and did the crossword on his commute instead of sitting in
traffic.

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Old September 6th 07, 05:28 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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Anyone tape it??? I missed it... oh.. and don't believe anything you
see on TV (figures, times, etc).

Lama 'The Car Show bike rider'


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Old September 6th 07, 05:34 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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Campag wrote:
.... The car was averaged out at $70,000+ a
year not including servicing or speeding tickets.


Did you accidentally add an extra zero there? I *might* go so far as
accepting $20,000 per year all-up, but to claim $70k is ludicrous.


BTH
(Unless it was a Ferrari or something)

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Old September 6th 07, 05:42 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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On 2007-09-06, Campag wrote:
Flicking through the tv on the weekend i watched a segment of the show
imaginatively titled 'The Car Show'. They were comparing commuting in
Melbourne by car, train and bike. I missed the beginning but assume
they all left the same point at the same time. The guy on the train
arrived at the destination first, followed by the bike rider ten
minutes later. The car came in much later. When they compared the
costs the bike was averaged out at about $1000 a year including
purchase price and muesli bars. The car was averaged out at $70,000+ a
year not including servicing or speeding tickets.


$70,000?!? That's a hellaciously high petrol bill! Oh, yeah, forgot
about car parking - never mind. (It's, what, twenty bucks a day in the
CBD?)

No mention of the
other benefits of cycling ie. fitness, less pollution etc. The
presenter summed up by saying he still loved his car and would choose
it over both other methods even though the guy on the train had a
snooze and did the crossword on his commute instead of sitting in
traffic.


*snort* I'll be starting a new job in Southbank in about a month.
There's only two transport methods that have so much as a glimmer of
hope of happening, and the one that averaged out at $70,000 is *not* one
of them. I'll probably have to trial the trip from home to the CBD on a
weekend some day ...

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Old September 6th 07, 05:46 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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$70,000?!? That's a hellaciously high petrol bill! Oh, yeah, forgot
about car parking - never mind. (It's, what, twenty bucks a day in the
CBD?)


The $70,000 figure included the purchase price of the car

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Old September 6th 07, 05:52 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:03:28 -0700, Campag wrote:

The
presenter summed up by saying he still loved his car and would choose
it over both other methods


Well, yeah, and you'd expect anyone who intentionally spends part of their
weekend watching something called "The Car Show" to feel the same way.

Never mind if I lose my house and have to live on cat food until I die of
a heart attack - I'm gonna drive my car everywhere!
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Old September 6th 07, 06:08 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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On Sep 6, 2:52 pm, Michael Warner wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:03:28 -0700, Campag wrote:
The
presenter summed up by saying he still loved his car and would choose
it over both other methods


Well, yeah, and you'd expect anyone who intentionally spends part of their
weekend watching something called "The Car Show" to feel the same way.

Never mind if I lose my house and have to live on cat food until I die of
a heart attack - I'm gonna drive my car everywhere!


You'll be able to get a government subsidy to pay for your petrol if
it comes to that.


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Old September 6th 07, 06:32 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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On Sep 6, 2:03 pm, Campag wrote:
Flicking through the tv on the weekend i watched a segment of the show
imaginatively titled 'The Car Show'. They were comparing commuting in
Melbourne by car, train and bike. I missed the beginning but assume
they all left the same point at the same time. The guy on the train
arrived at the destination first, followed by the bike rider ten
minutes later. The car came in much later. When they compared the
costs the bike was averaged out at about $1000 a year including
purchase price and muesli bars. The car was averaged out at $70,000+ a
year not including servicing or speeding tickets. No mention of the
other benefits of cycling ie. fitness, less pollution etc. The
presenter summed up by saying he still loved his car and would choose
it over both other methods even though the guy on the train had a
snooze and did the crossword on his commute instead of sitting in
traffic.


google is your friend..

http://www.thecarshow.com.au/web-tv.htm

I think you want episode 25 (not yet up)

duncan

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Old September 6th 07, 08:21 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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Michael Warner Wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:03:28 -0700, Campag wrote:

The
presenter summed up by saying he still loved his car and would

choose
it over both other methods


Well, yeah, and you'd expect anyone who intentionally spends part of
their
weekend watching something called "The Car Show" to feel the same way.

Never mind if I lose my house and have to live on cat food until I die
of
a heart attack - I'm gonna drive my car everywhere!


At least one producer of The Car Show loves his pimped out MTB and
rides a bit. His office is above a bike shop in Richmond.


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Old September 6th 07, 11:03 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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I believe the RACV did a survey last year and found that within 15kms
of the city riding a bike was the quickest and most reliable way to
get into work. I have no links to that but I'm sure that's what I read
in the Royal Auto.

As a personal anecdote: It used to take me 50 minutes to ride into
work in Melbourne CBD from Sandringham (~18kms) during peak hour, door
to door, not including changing time (when I was unfit and not a
"real" cyclist). For the train it would usually take me about 1hr plus
or minus 15mins (depending on the train line and whether I fit into
the express) door to door including driving to the station.

 




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