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Yet another driver caged and banned
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"A judge has issued a stern warning to the capital's lorry drivers after a man was jailed today for killing cyclist Akis Kollaros by hitting him with a tipper truck. Mr Kollaros, a Dalston music producer, suffered a fatal head injury when he was hit by Robert Taylor's vehicle on February 2 last year in Wardle Street, Homerton. His tragic death led around 300 cyclists to stage a "die-in" on Homerton High Street and calls for further segregated cycle lanes and lorry restrictions. Wood Green Crown Court heard the cyclist had been riding down the narrow one-way street and had come up to the Mercedes truck's nearside to turn right into Homerton High Street when the tipper hit him. The court was told that, had the 51-year-old Dartford driver checked his mirrors, there was "every chance the accident would have been avoided". Judge Noel Lucas said Taylor's failure to indicate he was turning left, which would have activated safety equipment, was also a factor in the London College of Music graduate's death." http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3221526.html |
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Yet another driver caged and banned
On 09/04/2016 07:34, Alycidon wrote:
QUOTE: "A judge has issued a stern warning to the capital's lorry drivers after a man was jailed today for killing cyclist Akis Kollaros by hitting him with a tipper truck. Mr Kollaros, a Dalston music producer, suffered a fatal head injury when he was hit by Robert Taylor's vehicle on February 2 last year in Wardle Street, Homerton. His tragic death led around 300 cyclists to stage a "die-in" on Homerton High Street and calls for further segregated cycle lanes and lorry restrictions. Wood Green Crown Court heard the cyclist had been riding down the narrow one-way street and had come up to the Mercedes truck's nearside to turn right into Homerton High Street when the tipper hit him. The court was told that, had the 51-year-old Dartford driver checked his mirrors, there was "every chance the accident would have been avoided". Judge Noel Lucas said Taylor's failure to indicate he was turning left, which would have activated safety equipment, was also a factor in the London College of Music graduate's death." http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3221526.html Why would any vehicle go up the nearside of another in order to turn right? Especially at somewhere that a left turn is possible? It really is Darwin in action and the lorry driver is suffering the consequences. |
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Yet another driver caged and banned
On 09/04/2016 11:36, colwyn wrote:
On 09/04/2016 09:11, MrCheerful wrote: On 09/04/2016 07:34, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "A judge has issued a stern warning to the capital's lorry drivers after a man was jailed today for killing cyclist Akis Kollaros by hitting him with a tipper truck. Mr Kollaros, a Dalston music producer, suffered a fatal head injury when he was hit by Robert Taylor's vehicle on February 2 last year in Wardle Street, Homerton. His tragic death led around 300 cyclists to stage a "die-in" on Homerton High Street and calls for further segregated cycle lanes and lorry restrictions. Wood Green Crown Court heard the cyclist had been riding down the narrow one-way street and had come up to the Mercedes truck's nearside to turn right into Homerton High Street when the tipper hit him. The court was told that, had the 51-year-old Dartford driver checked his mirrors, there was "every chance the accident would have been avoided". Judge Noel Lucas said Taylor's failure to indicate he was turning left, which would have activated safety equipment, was also a factor in the London College of Music graduate's death." http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3221526.html Why would any vehicle go up the nearside of another in order to turn right? Especially at somewhere that a left turn is possible? It really is Darwin in action and the lorry driver is suffering the consequences. Your reasoning is of course superior to that of the judge. His was a kneejerk reaction to the death of a sainted cyclist. There can be no good reason to put yourself into sucha dangerous position. Even the highway code cautions against that exact manouevre. And how could those few seconds gained have been worth such a risk? |
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Yet another driver caged and banned
On 09/04/2016 09:11, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/04/2016 07:34, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "A judge has issued a stern warning to the capital's lorry drivers after a man was jailed today for killing cyclist Akis Kollaros by hitting him with a tipper truck. Mr Kollaros, a Dalston music producer, suffered a fatal head injury when he was hit by Robert Taylor's vehicle on February 2 last year in Wardle Street, Homerton. His tragic death led around 300 cyclists to stage a "die-in" on Homerton High Street and calls for further segregated cycle lanes and lorry restrictions. Wood Green Crown Court heard the cyclist had been riding down the narrow one-way street and had come up to the Mercedes truck's nearside to turn right into Homerton High Street when the tipper hit him. The court was told that, had the 51-year-old Dartford driver checked his mirrors, there was "every chance the accident would have been avoided". Judge Noel Lucas said Taylor's failure to indicate he was turning left, which would have activated safety equipment, was also a factor in the London College of Music graduate's death." http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3221526.html Why would any vehicle go up the nearside of another in order to turn right? Especially at somewhere that a left turn is possible? It really is Darwin in action and the lorry driver is suffering the consequences. Your reasoning is of course superior to that of the judge. |
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Yet another driver caged and banned
On 09/04/2016 15:20, JNugent wrote:
On 09/04/2016 06:34, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "A judge has issued a stern warning to the capital's lorry drivers after a man was jailed today for killing cyclist Akis Kollaros by hitting him with a tipper truck. Mr Kollaros, a Dalston music producer, suffered a fatal head injury when he was hit by Robert Taylor's vehicle on February 2 last year in Wardle Street, Homerton. His tragic death led around 300 cyclists to stage a "die-in" on Homerton High Street and calls for further segregated cycle lanes and lorry restrictions. Wood Green Crown Court heard the cyclist had been riding down the narrow one-way street and had come up to the Mercedes truck's nearside to turn right into Homerton High Street when the tipper hit him. The court was told that, had the 51-year-old Dartford driver checked his mirrors, there was "every chance the accident would have been avoided". Judge Noel Lucas said Taylor's failure to indicate he was turning left, which would have activated safety equipment, was also a factor in the London College of Music graduate's death." http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3221526.html "the cyclist ... had come up to the Mercedes truck's *nearside* to turn right..."? That's a misprint, surely? the cyclist was in a hurry. |
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Yet another driver caged and banned
On 09/04/2016 06:34, Alycidon wrote:
QUOTE: "A judge has issued a stern warning to the capital's lorry drivers after a man was jailed today for killing cyclist Akis Kollaros by hitting him with a tipper truck. Mr Kollaros, a Dalston music producer, suffered a fatal head injury when he was hit by Robert Taylor's vehicle on February 2 last year in Wardle Street, Homerton. His tragic death led around 300 cyclists to stage a "die-in" on Homerton High Street and calls for further segregated cycle lanes and lorry restrictions. Wood Green Crown Court heard the cyclist had been riding down the narrow one-way street and had come up to the Mercedes truck's nearside to turn right into Homerton High Street when the tipper hit him. The court was told that, had the 51-year-old Dartford driver checked his mirrors, there was "every chance the accident would have been avoided". Judge Noel Lucas said Taylor's failure to indicate he was turning left, which would have activated safety equipment, was also a factor in the London College of Music graduate's death." http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3221526.html "the cyclist ... had come up to the Mercedes truck's *nearside* to turn right..."? That's a misprint, surely? |
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Yet another driver caged and banned
MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/04/2016 07:34, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "A judge has issued a stern warning to the capital's lorry drivers after a man was jailed today for killing cyclist Akis Kollaros by hitting him with a tipper truck. Mr Kollaros, a Dalston music producer, suffered a fatal head injury when he was hit by Robert Taylor's vehicle on February 2 last year in Wardle Street, Homerton. His tragic death led around 300 cyclists to stage a "die-in" on Homerton High Street and calls for further segregated cycle lanes and lorry restrictions. Wood Green Crown Court heard the cyclist had been riding down the narrow one-way street and had come up to the Mercedes truck's nearside to turn right into Homerton High Street when the tipper hit him. The court was told that, had the 51-year-old Dartford driver checked his mirrors, there was "every chance the accident would have been avoided". Judge Noel Lucas said Taylor's failure to indicate he was turning left, which would have activated safety equipment, was also a factor in the London College of Music graduate's death." http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3221526.html Why would any vehicle go up the nearside of another in order to turn right? Especially at somewhere that a left turn is possible? It really is Darwin in action and the lorry driver is suffering the consequences. I tried to find that junction on google street view. The point is that on several occasions, cyclists have 'gone up the nearside' entirely legally inside a cycle lane, only to be killed when some psychopath turns left and crushes them. -- john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons) 'It never gets any easier. You just get faster' (Greg LeMond (1961 - )) |
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Yet another driver caged and banned
On 11/04/2016 10:44, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen wrote:
MrCheerful wrote: On 09/04/2016 07:34, Alycidon wrote: QUOTE: "A judge has issued a stern warning to the capital's lorry drivers after a man was jailed today for killing cyclist Akis Kollaros by hitting him with a tipper truck. Mr Kollaros, a Dalston music producer, suffered a fatal head injury when he was hit by Robert Taylor's vehicle on February 2 last year in Wardle Street, Homerton. His tragic death led around 300 cyclists to stage a "die-in" on Homerton High Street and calls for further segregated cycle lanes and lorry restrictions. Wood Green Crown Court heard the cyclist had been riding down the narrow one-way street and had come up to the Mercedes truck's nearside to turn right into Homerton High Street when the tipper hit him. The court was told that, had the 51-year-old Dartford driver checked his mirrors, there was "every chance the accident would have been avoided". Judge Noel Lucas said Taylor's failure to indicate he was turning left, which would have activated safety equipment, was also a factor in the London College of Music graduate's death." http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3221526.html Why would any vehicle go up the nearside of another in order to turn right? Especially at somewhere that a left turn is possible? It really is Darwin in action and the lorry driver is suffering the consequences. I tried to find that junction on google street view. The point is that on several occasions, cyclists have 'gone up the nearside' entirely legally inside a cycle lane, only to be killed when some psychopath turns left and crushes them. It seems to be the "failure to indicate he was turning left" on which the case has eventually turned. But surely no-one can believe that it is an acceptable practice to overtake a vehicle on the left at a give way or stop line and then proceed to turn right in front of the overtaken vehicle? That is what was reported as the cyclist's action (or at least, his intention), though it hardly seems credible. |
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Yet another driver caged and banned
On 11/04/2016 14:50, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen wrote:
MrCheerful wrote: Even the highway code cautions against that exact manouevre. Ah, the same Highway Code that you disregard when a driver does something that he's not supposed to? _That_ Highway Code? Can you point to a single example of such a happening? |
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Yet another driver caged and banned
On 11/04/2016 15:19, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen wrote:
JNugent wrote: On 11/04/2016 10:44, Anthony '****_Taker' Janssen wrote: MrCheerful wrote: On 09/04/2016 07:34, Alycidon wrote: "A judge has issued a stern warning to the capital's lorry drivers after a man was jailed today for killing cyclist Akis Kollaros by hitting him with a tipper truck. Mr Kollaros, a Dalston music producer, suffered a fatal head injury when he was hit by Robert Taylor's vehicle on February 2 last year in Wardle Street, Homerton. His tragic death led around 300 cyclists to stage a "die-in" on Homerton High Street and calls for further segregated cycle lanes and lorry restrictions. Wood Green Crown Court heard the cyclist had been riding down the narrow one-way street and had come up to the Mercedes truck's nearside to turn right into Homerton High Street when the tipper hit him. The court was told that, had the 51-year-old Dartford driver checked his mirrors, there was "every chance the accident would have been avoided". Judge Noel Lucas said Taylor's failure to indicate he was turning left, which would have activated safety equipment, was also a factor in the London College of Music graduate's death." http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3221526.html Why would any vehicle go up the nearside of another in order to turn right? Especially at somewhere that a left turn is possible? It really is Darwin in action and the lorry driver is suffering the consequences. I tried to find that junction on google street view. The point is that on several occasions, cyclists have 'gone up the nearside' entirely legally inside a cycle lane, only to be killed when some psychopath turns left and crushes them. It seems to be the "failure to indicate he was turning left" on which the case has eventually turned. But surely no-one can believe that it is an acceptable practice to overtake a vehicle on the left at a give way or stop line and then proceed to turn right in front of the overtaken vehicle? Surely no one can believe that it is acceptable practice for a driver to turn and direct his vehicle into a space where he cannot in fact see. But apparently, many of you do believe that this is acceptable. It's like blindfolding yourself, driving along the road, and then blaming the person you hit, because you couldn't see him. Such an inability to accept responsibility for the consequences of one's actions, I have rarely seen. I expect the driver did look, saw no-one, then went back to looking where he was going, which is the normal method, quite clearly the driver did not expect that some **** on a pushbike would ride up his nearside. Very unfortunate, London cyclists do it all the time, yet are still affronted that they get run over, don't cyclists ever comprehend the news that they must hear through one media or another? Cyclists need to take care that they do not put themselves into easily foreseeable danger. |
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