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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:49:52 +0000
Jim A wrote: It's a bit of a non-issue isn't it? I mean if you really need to charge up at work you can wheel the bicycle in to the office and charge it there. Don't most leccy bikes have removable battery packs that you can just slide out and take in to charge? |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
On 26 Feb, 20:03, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Doug wrote: Presumably they deliver mains voltage to chargers in the cars but using hefty plugs instead of the standard three pin. If there was also a three pin socket they could serve for bikes carrying their own charger but I bet Boris hasn't thought of that., or doesn't want to. Ever heard the expression 'he who pays the piper calls the tune'? SNIP "...Jenny Jones, Green Party member for the London Assembly, said the announcement was "a healthy first step". But she warned: "Electric vehicles are still cars, so they still cause congestion, disruption, casualties and deaths on the roads." ****ing hell. �Is she Dougs mum or something? I'm not sure Duhg had a mum, as such. I think he evolved (*) directly from swamp slime. * not by much |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
On 26 Feb, 21:07, Rob Morley wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:49:52 +0000 Jim A wrote: It's a bit of a non-issue isn't it? *I mean if you really need to charge up at work you can wheel the bicycle in to the office and charge it there. Don't most leccy bikes have removable battery packs that you can just slide out and take in to charge? Yes but... What if you are shopping instead of commuting? Also what about long distance travel, from one charging point to the next? -- Car Free Living Project http://www.carfreelivingproject.org.uk/ For people wishing to live without a car |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
Doug wrote:
On 26 Feb, 21:07, Rob Morley wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:49:52 +0000 Jim A wrote: It's a bit of a non-issue isn't it? I mean if you really need to charge up at work you can wheel the bicycle in to the office and charge it there. Don't most leccy bikes have removable battery packs that you can just slide out and take in to charge? Yes but... What if you are shopping instead of commuting? Also what about long distance travel, from one charging point to the next? You don't believe that anyone has the right to travel long-distance without official permission anyway. What better means of control than limited access to fuel? "Your papers, please...". |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
On 26 Feb, 20:03, "The Medway Handyman" davidl...@no-spam-
blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Doug wrote: Presumably they deliver mains voltage to chargers in the cars but using hefty plugs instead of the standard three pin. If there was also a three pin socket they could serve for bikes carrying their own charger but I bet Boris hasn't thought of that., or doesn't want to. Ever heard the expression 'he who pays the piper calls the tune'? SNIP "...Jenny Jones, Green Party member for the London Assembly, said the announcement was "a healthy first step". But she warned: "Electric vehicles are still cars, so they still cause congestion, disruption, casualties and deaths on the roads." ****ing hell. *Is she Dougs mum or something? Strange as it may seem to you, not everyone is taken in by motorists' greenwash hype, i.e. the empty promise that they will all suddenly become good little drivers and migrate to electric cars at some point in the future and this would save on energy and carbon. Yeah sure! And pigs might fly. "Assuming a 50 kilowatt-hour battery pack and ideal charging efficiency, a ten-minute, quick charge from 10% to 80% capacity would require a power draw of 210 kilowatts from the electric grid. At 240 volts, this means a current draw of 875 Amperes from the outlet." Whew! I wonder how much energy that would save and what if the energy comes from a coal-fired power station which has not been retrofitted with unproven carbon storage? -- Car Free Living Project http://www.carfreelivingproject.org.uk/ For people wishing to live without a car |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
Doug wrote:
Yes but... What if you are shopping instead of commuting? 1. Ride the leccy bike to a bus stop 2. Catch a bus (often they are free) to the shopping mall & back 3. Ride home. Also what about long distance travel, from one charging point to the next? Electric bicycles are not designed for long distance travel. People have attempted long-distance journeys using Segways, milk floats, fork-lift trucks and all sorts - good luck to them but with the best will in the world, the number of people actually choosing an electric-assist bicycle for long-distance touring is never going to be big enough to justify the spend on specific infrastructure, especially when so very many places already have standard 13-amp sockets which can be used for the purpose. If there's sufficient demand (I don't think there is, but am open to persuasion), maybe the CTC could run a campaign to get cafes, restaurants, tourist venues, shopping malls, camp-sites, youth hostels and the like to advertise "free bicycle charging to customers available here". There could be a website of leccy bike-friendly places. None of these would require any or much public spend and might even benefit the businesses involved. -- www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride |
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Charging points for cars but what about electric bicycles?
Jim A wrote:
Doug wrote: Yes but... What if you are shopping instead of commuting? 1. Ride the leccy bike to a bus stop 2. Catch a bus (often they are free) to the shopping mall & back 3. Ride home. Also what about long distance travel, from one charging point to the next? Electric bicycles are not designed for long distance travel. People have attempted long-distance journeys using Segways, milk floats, fork-lift trucks and all sorts - good luck to them but with the best will in the world, the number of people actually choosing an electric-assist bicycle for long-distance touring is never going to be big enough to justify the spend on specific infrastructure, especially when so very many places already have standard 13-amp sockets which can be used for the purpose. If there's sufficient demand (I don't think there is, but am open to persuasion), maybe the CTC could run a campaign to get cafes, restaurants, tourist venues, shopping malls, camp-sites, youth hostels and the like to advertise "free bicycle charging to customers available here". There could be a website of leccy bike-friendly places. None of these would require any or much public spend and might even benefit the businesses involved. 'Free'? Why should it be free - cyclists want everything for free. Sponging freeloaders. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist |
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