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it must be the second water bottle...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos.php
id=photos/2005/may05/catshill05/228_2846 -or- http://tinyurl.com/dzf5t what the hell? |
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the chain is still in the big ring. maybe he should have shifted to the
little ring. |
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ah, I missed that, you're right. only thing I can figure is he got
tangled with someone on the way up and lost all his momentum. Damn that McGuire kit is ugly. -RJ |
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What kind of shoes is that guy wearing? The don't look like road
shoes. Was he planning on pushing? JT |
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What kind of shoes is that guy wearing? The don't look like road shoes. Was he planning on pushing? JT http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/d310a9a99781181f Haven't seen this in the pro/1/2 race though. Lots of people shift chainrings at the bottom of the hill, which increases the world market demand for chain watchers. Trying to shift chainrings in the middle of the hill increases the demand for chains, since you'll likely need a new one. Wohlberg always went up it in the big ring AFAICT. |
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" wrote: Wohlberg always went up it in the big ring AFAICT. Dumbass, That's right. In the 8sp days, I used to do it with a 46x22 low, where I shifted down to the 46 in the straight before the turn+hill. If someone can't turn a 46x22 or 46x23 up that hill, they're dropped. With a 12-25 10sp, you might as well big-ring it with a crossed chain, like Wohlberg. |
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In article , gwhite
wrote: " wrote: Wohlberg always went up it in the big ring AFAICT. Dumbass, That's right. In the 8sp days, I used to do it with a 46x22 low, where I shifted down to the 46 in the straight before the turn+hill. If someone can't turn a 46x22 or 46x23 up that hill, they're dropped. With a 12-25 10sp, you might as well big-ring it with a crossed chain, like Wohlberg. An lot of people try to do that race with a 39-53 setup. I think the change to the 39 is too much, unless you can also get the rear shifted over a few at the same time, just as you start up the hill. But that's still asking for trouble via a dropped chain (too much shifting activity at once). The 46 small ring idea is a good one. -- tanx, Howard Butter is love. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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skrev i en meddelelse ups.com... What kind of shoes is that guy wearing? The don't look like road shoes. Was he planning on pushing? JT If he was, I hope he had the cleat covers in his pocket, 'cause Speedplay cleats must be the worst to run in (on) HB |
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Howard Kveck wrote:
In article , gwhite wrote: " wrote: Wohlberg always went up it in the big ring AFAICT. Dumbass, That's right. In the 8sp days, I used to do it with a 46x22 low, where I shifted down to the 46 in the straight before the turn+hill. If someone can't turn a 46x22 or 46x23 up that hill, they're dropped. With a 12-25 10sp, you might as well big-ring it with a crossed chain, like Wohlberg. An lot of people try to do that race with a 39-53 setup. I think the change to the 39 is too much, unless you can also get the rear shifted over a few at the same time, just as you start up the hill. But that's still asking for trouble via a dropped chain (too much shifting activity at once). You got it -- this ooops happens all the time by people freaked out by the 23% grade. A 39t is simply the wrong choice for that course. The 53-46 shift is 14%, and the road is rising a small bit before entering the turn. So at most it is a very crisp front shift (since the rings are close in size), and one click in the back. But the back shift can probably be skipped, since you'll be clicking the opposite way in a few seconds. You don't even have to pop back to the 53 till riding the downhill. The 46 small ring idea is a good one. The problem these days, as I see it, is it is nearly impossible to find an _inner_ 46t ring, especially for 9 & 10sp. There will be problems of spacing between rings if the technical setup is not correctly performed along with using properly designed parts. The chain might "want" to ride in between the rings and not seat down. (This is the same technical problem faced by die-hard half-step fans.) I've gone thru all these problems and have them solved for my bike. Now mine is primo. But I think a properly designed (for 9/10) "standard" inner 44t is likely available. That is probably good enough. Even a 42t is better than a 39t. A 53-39t front combo is horrid for that course. The last time I did that race was with a 53-45 front. It is all about carrying a lot of momentum into the hill, and then holding it, just like Wohlberg does it. Stay away from the mid- and rear-pack dumbasses. MTB shoes are a a reasonable idea in case one gets caught behind some screwup and the resultant forced dismount. |
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In article , gwhite
wrote: The problem these days, as I see it, is it is nearly impossible to find an _inner_ 46t ring, especially for 9 & 10sp. There will be problems of spacing between rings if the technical setup is not correctly performed along with using properly designed parts. The chain might "want" to ride in between the rings and not seat down. (This is the same technical problem faced by die-hard half-step fans.) I've gone thru all these problems and have them solved for my bike. Now mine is primo. But I think a properly designed (for 9/10) "standard" inner 44t is likely available. That is probably good enough. Even a 42t is better than a 39t. A 53-39t front combo is horrid for that course. The last time I did that race was with a 53-45 front. It is pretty hard to come up with anything but standard rings for the newer cranksets, but it does look like Sheldon Brown/Harris Cyclery has some for Shimano cranks. It used to be easy to get just about any size ring. http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/chainrings/130.html It is all about carrying a lot of momentum into the hill, and then holding it, just like Wohlberg does it. Stay away from the mid- and rear-pack dumbasses. MTB shoes are a a reasonable idea in case one gets caught behind some screwup and the resultant forced dismount. Keeping your momentum onto the hill is not always that easy when in a bunch. The joints in the concrete sure don't help, either. -- tanx, Howard Butter is love. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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